Protein

[David]

Trying to cut the weight off... not all the interested in losing muscle.



Best Tasting protien available?

I bought the **** from walmart for $13 for a huge container. Taste like poo since switching i can't lose anymore weight...

i'm stuck in the low to mind 220's and want lower..


I was using an arbone (sp) kind. it's mail order that i got through one of lindsays house party things where they spend alot of money... anyways it's really good but i figure there is probably better

THanks..

[Mr. Jeff]

try taking hydroxycut hardcore

[coop]

if you are trying to lose weight and retain muscle then are most likely going to be doing cardio

if thats the case....i would suggest getting some BCAAs and some good protein

the bcaas are great for muscle repair that happens during cardio work....it helps with recovery too....and muscle loss will be minimal while losing weight


heres what i used to use:

bcaas - purple wraath ($40? for 90 servings)
protein - Optimum Nutrition 100% Gold Standard Whey (any flavor $40 for 75-80 scoops)


bcaas should be taken prior to workout.....protein whenever.....and if you want better muscle growth i would suggest Casien protein for night.....although this is horrible no matter what flavor.

[Thunder]

i've heard nothin but good about ON whey in terms of flavor and also the amount of actual protein per scoop (somethin like 24-27g)

[302fox5]

if your tryin to cut weight ik just about everything there is to know about it

[coop]

all flavors i have had are great


just had some bcaas since im sore as **** from football haha

[Thunder]

i have nothing but gatorade... i r hurting.

[Thunder]

and my elbow is on fire and i can't find the damn aleve wtf.

[tanker]

um..just go with the all meat diet

[supeRtunermatt]

where do you get your stuff from

[coop]

i like to go with www.dpsnutrition.com


they seem to usualy have competitive prices....sometimes www.bodybuilding.com has liek special deal days and thats sometimes a good time to get things too

[supeRtunermatt]

how many times a day/ how much protein are you supposed to take

[shainesboostin]

how many times a day/ how much protein are you supposed to take

1.5 grams per pound of body weight i think...

[coop]

1.5g/lb if you are heavy lifting......i would saturate your system which means no less than 1.5g/lb if you are trying to gain weight

to maintain - 1g/lb......i think a "normal" diet you need .7g/lb......but this is off if you are active

MOST of this protein should come from whole foods (tuna, chicken, red meat).

For example if you are 175lbs you need 262.5g and 175 of that should come from whole foods if possible.....shakes aer SUPPLEMENTS not a dietary staple

[shainesboostin]

1.5g/lb if you are heavy lifting......i would saturate your system which means no less than 1.5g/lb if you are trying to gain weight

to maintain - 1g/lb......i think a "normal" diet you need .7g/lb......but this is off if you are active

MOST of this protein should come from whole foods (tuna, chicken, red meat).

For example if you are 175lbs you need 262.5g and 175 of that should come from whole foods if possible.....shakes aer SUPPLEMENTS not a dietary staple


Interesting.....ive been 175lbs FOR EVER

[coop]

ok? i am 175 as well

[shainesboostin]

Well I eat like ****in crazy, eat **** tons of protien "i thought" and cant gain much. WTF

[Thunder]

genetics do not favor you

[coop]

log your intake for 1 week......you will see you are nowhere near 260+g of protein.......


its just science.....if you SATURATE your system and couple that with intense workouts you WILL gain weight....

i wasnt gaining weight till i started eating 4k cals a day.....

[shainesboostin]

genetics do not favor you

SO true, sad but true.

BUT on the other hand I went from being 140 last year to 175-180 after working out, and protien. So idk now im stuck. Maybe I need a better workout plan.

[supeRtunermatt]

if your trying to lose weight would that fall under needing .7g/lb.

[BOORAH]

I got the maxpro from max muscle.
IT TASTES LIKE ****.

[coop]

(to supermatt)

actually no......muscle utilize energy.........so that takes calories from what you intake....

that is why bodybuilders can eat tons of calories nad not gain fat.....their muscles utilize all the energy...even if you are just sitting there with a skinny person....the metabolism of those muscles are eating away at calories


so protien is essential for muscle growth/retention whcih will stimulate "fat loss" (indirectly)

[coop]

this helps get rid of the calories so you store less as fat

[shainesboostin]

(to supermatt)

actually no......muscle utilize energy.........so that takes calories from what you intake....

that is why bodybuilders can eat tons of calories nad not gain fat.....their muscles utilize all the energy...even if you are just sitting there with a skinny person....the metabolism of those muscles are eating away at calories


so protien is essential for muscle growth/retention whcih will stimulate "fat loss" (indirectly)

This is off topic,,,,,

but if your trying to gain muscle, should you work each muscle 1,2, or 3 times a week?

This is a very debated subject I want to see what people think

[supeRtunermatt]

that makes sense so you would determine how much to take based on your weight and how active you are?

[shainesboostin]

(to supermatt)

actually no......muscle utilize energy.........so that takes calories from what you intake....

that is why bodybuilders can eat tons of calories nad not gain fat.....their muscles utilize all the energy...even if you are just sitting there with a skinny person....the metabolism of those muscles are eating away at calories


so protien is essential for muscle growth/retention whcih will stimulate "fat loss" (indirectly)

This is off topic,,,,,

but if your trying to gain muscle, should you work each muscle 1,2, or 3 times a week?

This is a very debated subject I want to see what people think

anyone?

[coop]

there is no such thing as overtraining as long as your diet supplements it.....for huge gains i think that one should start with isolation exercises.....like chest days and leg days.....and this should be like 1-2 times a week.....once this tapers off as it does with any person....i think compound workouts should happen...and these could be 3-4 times a week


in theory you could work every muscle every day......its the diet people dont keep up that causes problems.....

[coop]

that makes sense so you would determine how much to take based on your weight and how active you are?

there are lots of calculators on how much you need......as a reference they are ok....but honestly...as long as calories IN are less than calories OUT you will lose weight...its WHAT calories go in is whether you retain muscle during it or not (as well as just a healthy diet)

[shainesboostin]

there is no such thing as overtraining as long as your diet supplements it.....for huge gains i think that one should start with isolation exercises.....like chest days and leg days.....and this should be like 1-2 times a week.....once this tapers off as it does with any person....i think compound workouts should happen...and these could be 3-4 times a week


in theory you could work every muscle every day......its the diet people dont keep up that causes problems.....

huh, yeah I guess, some people say 1 time a week is plenty but some say 1 is only enough to maintain.

I thought doing fullbody routine 3x a week was good?

[coop]

"you have to go big to get big"

if you want muscle growth you must lift heavy....and this usually means more rest between the workouts.....if you do fullbody 3x a week...you most likely are going to get some muscle growth but lots of toning.....and your weight will level off

[Mr. Jeff]

"you have to go big to get big"

if you want muscle growth you must lift heavy....and this usually means more rest between the workouts.....if you do fullbody 3x a week...you most likely are going to get some muscle growth but lots of toning.....and your weight will level off

well put sir.

i have been doing my rugby training for about 2 months now, heavy fullbody workouts with a lite cardio 7 days a week. im starting to do more cardio.

[David]

THis thread rocks...

[DarkSlide]

Sounds like too much work to be in shape.

[coop]

its a full time job......at least to see progress

[DarkSlide]

My body hates me. I'm in horrible shape and can never seem to get the motivation to fix that.

[spoonraker]

Tuna and Chicken are both great sources of protein, they are also delicious. :)

[Cotnerdude]

its a full time job......at least to see progress

This is the truth... I need to get back into the gym.

Being in Chicago with a Grandma thats was a Chef her whole life for Easter= weight gain.

What sucks the most is the part that you always want to lose the most (the gut) comes off last and is the hardest to get rid of.

[spoonraker]

You lose weight evenly, that's just one of the places where you store a lot of fat, so you have to get to some pretty low body-fat numbers to have defined abs.

[Bobby Light]

strap a midget to your back and start running, you will lose weight.

[coop]

i guess something that should be added to this:

if you are trying to get bigger aka muscle your diet should be 30% carb, 40% protein, and 30% fat

and if you are trying to retain muscle but lose weight your diet should be 40% carb, 40% protein, and 20% fat



a good way to see how much calories you are getting from food rather than a stupid online calculator is to just get the grams of carbs/pro/fat of what you are eating since this is what makes up your calories

1g of carb gives 4 cal
1g of protein gives 4 cal
1g of fat gives 9 cal


it is hard to get carbs and protein but its doable.....but if are not eating those calories clean then you will see that fat is the easiest to go over.....i suggest logging your food for a week...everything in.....i did this (i think whody ryan did as well one time) and its amazing how much fat you take in....no wonder your body stores it.....


*note that of the 20-30% fat you take in....it should come from good sources, which means omega-3 fats or and some sat fats.....no trans fats

[Bobby Light]

I think you need a combinations of heroin, wings and horse semen.

[coop]

well the horse semen would be a good source of protein
wings would be too

howeever heroin is fatty

[Mr. Jeff]

about 2 years ago i was counting carbs and all that, it works really good but it sucks at the same time.

[Snake_Eyes]

i've heard nothin but good about ON whey in terms of flavor and also the amount of actual protein per scoop (somethin like 24-27g)
I've tried the chocolate and thought it tasted horrible, Six Star from Walmart tastes whey (:)) better.

[sw150]

BSN's Syntha 6 best tasting stuff I've ever tried.

[AWeb80]

Protein.

I eat straight tuna from the can. Nearly pure protein and only 120ish calories a can and no fat.

[Bobby Light]

raw eggs and horse semen