KRP 2008 discussion thread

[swaggy853]

Read through everything before you vote on the poll, I want to keep this as real as possible.

I received a call from a friend of mine last nite that is a sponsor at KRP. He told me about some things that are happening at the track and some things that they want to do.

What has happened:
The track manager is GONE. I cant tell you at this point how much of the other staff is left but there are going to be changes. There is not a new track manager at this point, all of these changes are being done by a board of regents(or something I was busy at work when he was telling me this). They want to turn the track around, and they want to know what it will take to do so.

What IS going to happen:
Lights will be in by May. This is not a maybe, there will be racing after dark this season at KRP.

What they want to happen:
They WANT to do a street racing nite, for US. Would probably be a friday nite once or twice a month, but that is not set in stone, they want to know what is needed to do to get it done and make it worthwhile for everyone.

Part of the discussion between me and him: (not quoted, responses in blue)
Thats fine and all, but the people on the boards always ***** about kearney for lots of reasons, one of them being the **** that runs the lanes.
I dont know if that guy will be back, but there will be no bracket racing, only street racing. You can run over and over all nite long.
I havent been to KCIR or MAM, but I hear people say that track prep in kearney sucks.
Is it any worse than a highway? In my dragster I pull the same 60' times at kearney and KCIR. If you are gonna hook you will hook at kearney.
Unless the people with street tires have to run in the gravel.
That will be a discussion topic, I dont see them being able to do that to everyone on a street racing night.
And you say better than a highway, whats going to be so great about it that you will have people driving 2 or 3 hours when the highway is free and there is a lot of it.
This is what they are thinking at this point. $25/car no admission for people. If you put 6 people into a camaro, $25. 12 people in a van, $25. Once your car passes tech yer good to race anyone/everyone all nite. If you wanna race for a little cash, do it. Want to run a bracket or tournament amongst yourselves, do it. Want to make 15 test runs back to back, do it. The reason that the test and tune guys got ****ed before is because the bracket racers were their priority, they were the ones that were back everytime the track was open to make their runs. The way it was set up before was for them, and the people that drove for test and tune got screwed. The track people didnt care as much about the people that came down once or twice a summer to get times when they had people that were there every other weekend racing for money.
I'm sure much more was said, but that was the basics of it.

My thoughts:
I think they have the right idea and are showing that they want to get this done. They dont like people bitching at them, and I think thats what it came to. I think if they want a street racing night that will appeal to people I think they should turn the times/mph display off and only show a winner to the crowd, but still hand out timeslips. That way if you run an 11 second time against a 13 second car in a money race you dont have everyone in the place talking about how you ran an 11.xx but you do have the timeslip to prove it and so does whoever you raced that just lost their money. I also think that we need to man up and support this and show them that it would be worthwhile if it is somethng we want to do, otherwise its our own fault when it doesnt happen and we are left with looking for new spots everynite and bitching about the cops that are dicks.

I think this is a great idea if we can get 30ish cars to show twice a month, go out on the track and have a good time, same cars run all nite and its fun for the drivers. I think getting that would be enough to support it. But then the forums get together and 70-80 cars show up. Sure you wont get the track time, but there is gonna be a hell of a show for everyone if you have 70-80 cars racing each other. How much fun was americruise? Sure you're driving 2-3 hours for it but you are racing all nite, with a tree, timeslips, no cops, uninterrupted.

I put up a poll to see how much interest there is. I told him to get on the forums if they want to know what people have to say, but I dunno if that will happen. Discuss.

[b18crx]

you know i'll be going, hopefully we wont have to trailer it home EVER again. Even though it is interesting how far it slides on a trailer, lol. I think it'll be a great opportunity to settle some races. Have an actual tree and times to prove if anyone jumps and if its close who actually won....

[Alley]

It it actually happens the way you described it it could be a good thing. Sounds just like Scribner. The whole shutting downt he time board is lame though. People want to get there runs on video with the final shot being of the time board with there time on it. And I bet maybe 1% of the poeple would ever want to set up a bracket race or money race.

[swaggy853]

it was just a thought I had, nothing more.

[wholeshotracing]

shaggy...well put i am a board member. TDC that posted on the other thread is The vice pres. right now he has a street car that he most likely run also.
Like you said we want change, we want to be a street racer friendly track for the most part. but like you said the bracket guys are there every weekend rain or shine. and most of them own stock and help alot at the track<>

The car count will be a LARGE factor in what we do.

[C.J.]

i just would like nights that it is truly "test n' tune" or "street race" nights where there is only 1 line and no bullshit junior dragsters and full slick 9 second cars there getting in 10 runs per every 1 run from the street tire cars.

[C.J.]

i hate junior dragsters

but in all seriousness after reading the entire post, i realize that bracket racers who are there every weekend running got priority over guys who show up once or twice a summer. Then again the reason nobody shows up on a regular basis is b/c you hardly get any passes and the passes you do get are out of the groove, which is pointless when you go to a drag strip you are paying to run your car on a nicely prepped track that can yield great times out of your vehicle.

and who cares about the cost, if i am spectating i will pay it doesnt matter...whats $6 or whatever it used to cost at scribner. Also $25 to run your car is dirt cheap to, I would pay more to guarantee that I will get a satisfactory (in my mind) amount of runs in one night. I have never been to a dragstrip that I have gotten to run more than 3 times in 1 night and that is being there for 6-7 hours. Which is crap, you should beable to run 10,15,20 times in that length of time, basically run your car until you feel guilty for beating the **** out of it and then have time to eat some food and watch some races from the stands.

[swaggy853]

shaggy...well put i am a board member. TDC that posted on the other thread is The vice pres. right now he has a street car that he most likely run also.
Like you said we want change, we want to be a street racer friendly track for the most part. but like you said the bracket guys are there every weekend rain or shine. and most of them own stock and help alot at the track<>

The car count will be a LARGE factor in what we do.

Sooo is what I posted accurate? Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, correct me, add to, whatever.

[C.J.]

^ your wrong, all of this talk is just like offering us a bowl of candy and then handing it to old guys and junior dragster racers

"gawd damnit' cleetus i says to dial me in at 11.20!"

[swaggy853]

i just would like nights that it is truly "test n' tune" or "street race" nights where there is only 1 line and no bullshit junior dragsters and full slick 9 second cars there getting in 10 runs per every 1 run from the street tire cars.
i hate junior dragsters

but in all seriousness after reading the entire post, i realize that bracket racers who are there every weekend running got priority over guys who show up once or twice a summer. Then again the reason nobody shows up on a regular basis is b/c you hardly get any passes and the passes you do get are out of the groove, which is pointless when you go to a drag strip you are paying to run your car on a nicely prepped track that can yield great times out of your vehicle.

and who cares about the cost, if i am spectating i will pay it doesnt matter...whats $6 or whatever it used to cost at scribner. Also $25 to run your car is dirt cheap to, I would pay more to guarantee that I will get a satisfactory (in my mind) amount of runs in one night. I have never been to a dragstrip that I have gotten to run more than 3 times in 1 night and that is being there for 6-7 hours. Which is crap, you should beable to run 10,15,20 times in that length of time, basically run your car until you feel guilty for beating the **** out of it and then have time to eat some food and watch some races from the stands.

I would say open up the track to everything, jr dragsters, 9 second cars, everything, but make ONE line. The more that is there the more entertaining it will be and everyone will have more fun IMO as long as nobody is favored over anyone else.

They can do it however they want, but I like the $25 idea. Even if its a minivan full of people coming to watch, $25. It encourages people to slam into a car and come watch, more people watching=more talk about it and more people coming to a future event. Personally if I pay $25, get 3 runs in and get to watch some cool **** thats fine with me. If there are lots of ppl there that is what will happen. If there arent as many people there then you get to run 10-15 times and you can go tell your friends about it, bring more people the next time.

[C.J.]

junior dragsters are too full of gay to get in that line, they take to much special attention b/c those kiddies are only running 1/8th mile, i dont see them letting a 8 second car run behind some 10 year old crackin off 10 second 1/8th mile passes

lets face it here...bg&s motors should not drag race, get off the drag strip

[swaggy853]

Honestly I dont think you would see them out much, but I dont see a reason to ban them from the nite. Its not like there arent gonna be stock civics from the tri cities running 18s against each other. Have you been to GI/Hastings/Kearney?

[C.J.]

Honestly I dont think you would see them out much, but I dont see a reason to ban them from the nite. Its not like there arent gonna be stock civics from the tri cities running 18s against each other. Have you been to GI/Hastings/Kearney?

no, but I would rather watch a 18 second mexi modified honda civic w/ 4 wings and curb feelers run a 20 second 1/4 mile than listen to those jr dragsters.

at least those sweet custom civics wait in the same staging lanes and only take 20 seconds to get up to the light and out of our way.

[swaggy853]

that would be part of it, they would have to wait in line and be ready to run like everyone else or they wont be there.

[turbodaytona87]

I would probably go if we get in a few more runs than 2-4, 10 would probably be plenty for me

[swaggy853]

I would guess if everything went smoothly, a conservative average of a minute for a run(times 2 ppl running at a time) gives 120 runs/hour, thats over 700 runs in 6 hours, or 70 people getting 10 runs plus or minus. Am I off?

[Hillbilly]

I'll go again but if it sucks again I will stay away from now on.

[wholeshotracing]

The entry fee thing is prolly not the case. it will be $25 or $30 for car and driver and like $5 or $10 for spectators

yea for the most part its good info! and true!

and if you wanna ***** about passes and time trials go to denver or topeka.....3 max... i have had days at kearney that i get 8-10 if its slow!
but iam one of the big tire 12 sec back halfed cars so i prolly don't count

[wholeshotracing]

Are you guys going to wait till the lights are up or are you plannin on comin down april 5-6?

[C.J.]

and if you wanna ***** about passes and time trials go to denver or topeka.....3 max... i have had days at kearney that i get 8-10 if its slow!
but iam one of the big tire 12 sec back halfed cars so i prolly don't count

more or less the reason i won't waste time at kearney, ide rather get 3 runs at topeka than 3 runs at KRP

[wholeshotracing]

me too i can run 11.7's at topeka and only 12.0's at kearney but its home i don't wanna be a **** i just want alot of cars to show up and have a damn good time which i know you all can do

[David]

If it is open for more than a couple hours and if there will NOT be any bracket racers dialing in and if i can run in the groves with my street tires.. I will consider it..


The reality is i hate the drive to KCIR. It's nearly 2x's the drive of KRP.

however i can knock off .4-.6 of a second off by going to KRP. making it alot more desirable to run at... nothing KRP can do except dig a big a$$ hole to fix that..

with that said.. if this is for street cars i will consider going out there again... If i feel shafted again... i can't promise i won't burn it to the ground.

[Jasen]

shaggy...well put i am a board member. TDC that posted on the other thread is The vice pres. right now he has a street car that he most likely run also.
Like you said we want change, we want to be a street racer friendly track for the most part. but like you said the bracket guys are there every weekend rain or shine. and most of them own stock and help alot at the track<>

The car count will be a LARGE factor in what we do.


Follow the money. The bracket racers will still rule that track.
I'll drag my car out there once. My car ripped 1.4 60' on DRs on a properly prepped track and launched straight as a pin. Nothing has changed with the suspension since that point and I've gone to slicks. Making the same power on slicks with the same suspension I SHOULD be quicker than that out of the hole. However, I understand Cletus track prep dude uses no more than 2 oz of VHT per lane and never sweeps or mops the launch pad, I would be happy if I could at least equal that 1.4 time on slicks. Then I'd consider going 2x a month at least.
BUT, if I launch like I'm on the street....I'll stick with the street...no travel expenses and no entry fees.

[GTPpower]

What the OP posted sounds good, except the idea of making each car pay $25 to get in. I'd say $25 for car and driver, and $5 for each person not racing. I think $10 is too much...for that price people will just go to the bar instead.

Getting more passes would be great. I usually only get about 5 passes here. The one and only time I raced at scribner, I got 17 passes! :O

[89fox]

I agree with Budwiser although ive never been to a track but ifthey do go though with the streetracing at night all night then im there unless i cant make it.

[swaggy853]

it wouldnt be all nite, but I could see something like 6-12.

[rsisbetter]

maybe..., even though i voted, '**** no'

[NHRAGODDESS]

Took some offense to the slamming of jr dragsters. 1st any one that is a true track racer knows no jr can be lined up against a big car so the one line theory is out, 2nd my oldest sons jr can take probably 90 percent of your street cars in the 1/8th, obviously some of you arent educated enough to understand what it is that you are saying, jr s are not bull ****. in the past we have been screwed out of time trials at krp, so its just not you street racers who have been **** on. we are planning to make the long drive to krp once or twice this year with our super comp and jr.

[swaggy853]

whoa, whats up with all the track people joining scr? anyways did this all stem from me mentioning starcityracing.com to matt?

[NHRAGODDESS]

well if you can bash track racers why cant we be on the site????? we're lincoln locals too

[swaggy853]

well if you can bash track racers why cant we be on the site????? we're lincoln locals too

not ONCE did I bash you, I was just inquiring.

[NHRAGODDESS]

not u. just making a point to previous post.

[swaggy853]

sooo where/how did you hear about the site?

[David]

i don't doubt you have a junior dragster thats able to hold it's own against 90% of our daily driven street cars. The point against jr dragsters is it's boring to watch IMHO. I don't doubt you and your son have a great time with it, I find it grossly boring and a good way to ruin alot of good racing time when i'm there. I don't blame the jr's or the parents. Horrible organization. Could get the kids out of the way first thing in the morning so they aren't cooking up in the late afternoon heat anyways.

[NHRAGODDESS]

i have kids (duh) that are into computers and cars

[swaggy853]

sooo your kids heard about the site? interesting.

[David]

Who cares how he found out... i'm sure it's from my quoted post on the KRP board which is fine. I welcome the membership... I dont' see any point in making an argument about how Jr's or bracket racing is real racing... I know some lincoln bracket racers. one does it just because he wants to race, but he'd rather be a full throttle.


I like kids and i'm always in support of getting them involved in something... racing is as good as any ball you can give a kid.

I'm sure many of hte guys that bracket race really enjoy it.. seems pointless to me but thats just my point of view..

[swaggy853]

Who cares how he found out... i'm sure it's from my quoted post on the KRP board which is fine. I welcome the membership... I dont' see any point in making an argument about how Jr's or bracket racing is real racing... I know some lincoln bracket racers. one does it just because he wants to race, but he'd rather be a full throttle.

i was bein curious, leave me alone asshole.

[David]

lol.. i think if he wanted you to know how he found out he would have said so.


The **** talk post was enough to know where he got the information. That and if you look tdcracing and him are lurking this thread. Both who dont' care to follow the rules and make a noob post.

[swaggy853]

lol.. i think if he wanted you to know how he found out he would have said so.


The **** talk post was enough to know where he got the information. That and if you look tdcracing and him are lurking this thread. Both who dont' care to follow the rules and make a noob post.

i was gonna say something about that, but the complete lack of respect that is noob posts made me not say anything.

[David]

meh... i really don't care.. they are lurking this thread.. They didn't join for the board.. they joined for the topic.

[tdcracing]

Hey I think this is a pointless discussion with some good humor involved. please continue! I will check in tomorrow to see how the sega is continuing. And I seem to missed the noob post will do so tomorrow. later!

[David]

If you think this is good. you should tune in more often :)

a noob post would be appreciated.

[Jasen]

Took some offense to the slamming of jr dragsters. 1st any one that is a true track racer knows no jr can be lined up against a big car so the one line theory is out, 2nd my oldest sons jr can take probably 90 percent of your street cars in the 1/8th, obviously some of you arent educated enough to understand what it is that you are saying, jr s are not bull ****. in the past we have been screwed out of time trials at krp, so its just not you street racers who have been **** on. we are planning to make the long drive to krp once or twice this year with our super comp and jr.


Jr Dragsters are NECESSSRY if the sport ever wants to live. I plan to get my son in one. I wish they were around when I was a kid.
Look at it this way, a Jr. dragster will smack down some of the "street racer" cars around here in the 1/8th. Some of them trap 70+ MPH in the 1/8....driven by a little kid! Pretty impressive for me. I'd still rather watch them than a pee wee T ball game.

[rsisbetter]

Took some offense to the slamming of jr dragsters. 1st any one that is a true track racer knows no jr can be lined up against a big car so the one line theory is out, 2nd my oldest sons jr can take probably 90 percent of your street cars in the 1/8th, obviously some of you arent educated enough to understand what it is that you are saying, jr s are not bull ****. in the past we have been screwed out of time trials at krp, so its just not you street racers who have been **** on. we are planning to make the long drive to krp once or twice this year with our super comp and jr.


Jr Dragsters are NECESSSRY if the sport ever wants to live. I plan to get my son in one. I wish they were around when I was a kid.
Look at it this way, a Jr. dragster will smack down some of the "street racer" cars around here in the 1/8th. Some of them trap 70+ MPH in the 1/8....driven by a little kid! Pretty impressive for me. I'd still rather watch them than a pee wee T ball game.

valid points, especially the bolded

[STOK5OH]

90%? Doubt it,70 i could see though.

Near as I can tell nothing's changing. What does going to all the trouble of KRP have to offer me? Ive yet to see a reason mentioned in this thread not to make the extra drive for topeka or be content with impressive 60's and not much more at MAM.

[David]

If it could be run like scribner was at night.. id' be intrested even if it's for a slower time..

[C.J.]

Took some offense to the slamming of jr dragsters. 1st any one that is a true track racer knows no jr can be lined up against a big car so the one line theory is out, 2nd my oldest sons jr can take probably 90 percent of your street cars in the 1/8th, obviously some of you arent educated enough to understand what it is that you are saying, jr s are not bull ****. in the past we have been screwed out of time trials at krp, so its just not you street racers who have been **** on. we are planning to make the long drive to krp once or twice this year with our super comp and jr.

basically jr dragsters are garbage, your running a damn hopped up bg&s off of my super sick lawn mower (grossly over simplified, i know they are more than a mower engine) but seriously i hate them. Go ahead and get involved with racing and your kids that is awesome. I just don't want to have my time wasted while i listen to those things putts down the track AT MIND NUMBING SPEED. If i wanted to listen to that crap Ill just open my windows on a summer night and listen to some old bastard down the street mowing his lawn not drive 2 hours to get some runs in.

oh and take that "my jr dragster is faster than 90% of street cars" home, you obviously are as uneducated about current performance standards as i am uneducated about jr dragsters. You probably think my rice burner in the picture below this post runs a 16 with a 9 second 1/8 mile.


OK maybe that is getting alittle harsh, jr dragsters are a great way for kids to get involved with racing. I just don't want to hear them, see them, know anything about them and most definitely not have to wait in a hot ass staging lane while they take 5 minutes to make a pass.

[C.J.]

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[tdcracing]

Hey back to the point of a good reason to come to Kearney to race, test or grudge. My point to yo all east of us is why not come out once or twice a year. Maybe we can arrange a special east vs west grudge race then which ever side has some bragging ights and maybe the chance to score some bet moneyif wagered? If any or all is interested then please post back some ideas and Ill se what I can get arranged.

TDC

[tdcracing]

sorry for the spelling my keys arnt working

[David]

http://www.krpi.com/juniordiv.htm

The cars have to meet stringent specifications, all to keep things as safe as posssible. The engines are somewhat based on the same as your lawn mower engine, although if you toured the pits you`ll see that is far from true. The cars can, legally, go 85 miles an hour and cover the eitghth mile in 7.90 seconds. The NHRA is very strict on this and drivers can be disqualified immeditely if these rules are broken

[Alley]

We don't care about grudge matches. We care about lining up and raceing. Grudge sounds like another way for us to get screwed.

"Sorry, you guys can't run yet. We got to get this grudge match done first."

[tdcracing]

Sorry I must have missed something Im talking street vs street east vs west event to bring cars from both directions or whatever I can do to help get you guys out here to run.?

[Alley]

We don't need any gimicks like that. All we care about is running as much as we can to get timeslips. Nothing else. For some reason poeple think we want to race for money, and set up grudge matches and all this other BS.

[tdcracing]

OK Im done !

[wholeshotracing]

CJ how fast is your car?

[86Shelby]

OK maybe that is getting alittle harsh, jr dragsters are a great way for kids to get involved with racing. I just don't want to hear them, see them, know anything about them and most definitely not have to wait in a hot ass staging lane while they take 5 minutes to make a pass.

Yeah, it was harsh and unneeded. No one wants to hear/see your fart canned-4 cylinder on the track Mr. Negetive. You'll be wasting MY time in line with my big block. Let the little tikes run and have thier fun.


We don't care about grudge matches. We care about lining up and raceing. Grudge sounds like another way for us to get screwed.

"Sorry, you guys can't run yet. We got to get this grudge match done first."

Can you try a little harder and come off like MORE of an ass than you already have? Damn. It's just an idea, chill out.

I for one will make the trek out to Kearney and try things out. If things are fairly organized and move smoothly I will likely when I can. That being said, I doubt I will be out the first few times there are street days/nights. I would hate to come away with a sour experience because processes are still being ironed out in tech, staging, track cleanup, etc.

[Alley]

Last 2 years I've gone to Kearney 2-3 times per year. So I've supported them plenty. I'm willing to give them another shot. I'm just trying to give them usefull info, not trying to be a ass. There probably scared of Mopars owning the track and the Ford and GM guys will be too intimidated and stop comming.

[David]

dont' make me ***** slap you.

[Jasen]

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oh and take that "my jr dragster is faster than 90% of street cars" home, you obviously are as uneducated about current performance standards as i am uneducated about jr dragsters. You probably think my rice burner in the picture below this post runs a 16 with a 9 second 1/8 mile.


You're right. Care to enlighten me? I don't know anything about modern performance...:pissed:

Geez...I leave the business 7 months after 20 years and I lost it all! :shock:

[89fox]

Lol. Im still gunna go to kearney its closer and i have friends that live up there.

[swaggy853]

since my parents live in GI, you better believe I will be at most of the street nights once my car is done. I could loan out a few beds if needed if certain folk didnt wanna drive back to lincoln late.

[David]

Low amount of States on the interestate at midnight.. hit it at 100+ in the dark and no worries.

[89fox]

Thats a good idea but i can also just go to minden.

[swaggy853]

The interstate is lite most of the way... shut of the lights and go home at 100+.. it's really not that bad of a drive... Can't chase what you cant' see :)

Thinking that thought and planning out a 150mph run down the interstate keeps me up at nite when im driving down the interstate in the b4c. I would need a kill switch for the brake lights and nightvision would be nice too just in case. Do it right or dont bother.

[BossRoss]

whats everyones hate on the jr. dragsters? its just bad track management. even on the busiest days at julesburg, all the classes run plus test'n tune. they keep em in order, then of course as the day goes on. test'n tune will get more runs b/c as the bracket dwindels down they need longer between runs with fewer competitors. so, the times i've gone. u get one run per round durin the first couple rounds of bracket but after that ur lookin at 2-3 if nor more inbetween rds.

[David]

I don't think anyone hates jr dragsters. I'm honestly less annoyed with them than the bracket racers. But as stated.. it's not the racers fault. it's the management.

[tdcracing]

Remember the track is under new management and is being overseen by the board of directors better than previous years

[86Shelby]

CJ is just pissed that a 9 year old with a lawn mower engine can run the 1/8 mile quicker than him.

[BossRoss]

yea i was just lookin at some records. some kid in the 15-16 yr old class ran a 6.9@98mph :shock: but yea for the 13&up, they would cut out around 2/3 of our top 25 timeslips based off 1/8th mile

[David]

Remember the track is under new management and is being overseen by the board of directors better than previous years

I've been going to KRP for 2 years now... I believe i remeber devil sperm getting on last year and talking about new management. We are interested but not holding our breath. 2 years of getting fkd is enough to make us bitter.

I dont' have alot of time to spend racing so when i take the time to go to a track i expect to be able to race... thats all.. i'm sure you can understand where we are coming from.

Also to add on to what alley said earlier about racing for money. Don't take this the wrong way... but i thingk you guys expect racing to be done for money. Most... as in 99% of us do it for the pure enjoyment of it.. kinda like catch and release when fishing. :lol: So to be prefectly honest we are not interested in getting involved in any kind of point match that involves prize money..


With that said we are interested to see what the track does... but a large amount of improvment is avaliable and required to get many of us to make the trip again.

Currently i have no intentions of visiting KRP this year. I will spend my track dollars and time at KCIR. I will be going to K cruise and if i hear of some of decent improvements i'll possibly stick around and visit the track.

[BossRoss]

when i fish i kill the fish. but thats cuz the fish swallow the hook and only way to get it out is to rip it.

[David]

i use a bug zapper.. but thats not the point.

[GTPpower]

During cruise night is not the time to head to the track if you want to get runs in....too many cars.

[DevilSperm]

A few things.

First: Im guessing that with the lights going up, things wont be quite so rushed to get everyone out of there by dark. I know that was always a concern, especially if there was an oil down or someones engine laying on the track. I think a big part there was the management trying to make it worth the while for the pro/super pro guys that spend the bucks to tow down and their entry fee.

Which bring me to my next point. The new management will probably end up doing things (at first) at least somewhat close to how it was ran before. Its what they are used to and it wouldn't surprise me if thats how things started out. I think they realize a change needs made and will eventually change it for the better though.

Thirdly, if you guys come down and race under the lights, afterwards, Joe (wholeshotracing) and I would be happy to head to the titty bars with you guys so you didnt have to head home so quick...just an offer :-p

[Mr. Jeff]

i would go with the 750 if somebody went with a truck, i would pay 1/2 of the gas too. i havent been to there in awhile.

[C.J.]

i still hate junior dragsters even if there are some that run 100mph in the 1/8th

oh and Jasen I was directing my beloved posts at that newb that joined SCR just to post up in this stupid thread.

[C.J.]

We don't need any gimicks like that. All we care about is running as much as we can to get timeslips. Nothing else. For some reason poeple think we want to race for money, and set up grudge matches and all this other BS.

BINGO, best post in the thread

oh and we dont like our time to be wasted....aka bracket racers, stupid ass jr dragsters, other stupid points match crap. Schedule different days for those yahoo hillbilly's

I dont even care if that means there is only 1 dedicated test n' tune night a month, i am damn sure it would be packed and everyone would get a decent amount of runs w/ a constantly flowing line and no other stupid **** going on tying up the lanes and wasting our time

[swaggy853]

this stupid thread.

I started this thread and if you dont like it then :gtfo:

[STOK5OH]

ya a dedicated "test and tune" night is the only thing that will work.

[GTPpower]

Thirdly, if you guys come down and race under the lights, afterwards, Joe (wholeshotracing) and I would be happy to head to the titty bars with you guys so you didnt have to head home so quick...just an offer :-p


The feedlot??? lol:woot::eek:

[DevilSperm]

Do you realize you just gave me a great idea for a bewbie bar? Ill hire nothing under 300 lbs! lol

[GTPpower]

haha.....the big boned women lol


You wanna work here ***** you gotta throw a few pounds on....lol