GTO's

[David]

I was driving home in the escort the other night and a newer GTO was behind me... The weird thing is i was in my escort and had zero level of respect for this car that i knew had a 400hp LS2 under the hood... now that i look back at it... what a disapppointment. they dont' loko fast, not even a lil and i know there not... I feel really bad for the LS2 inside and even the name plate :(

[MadmaX]

I disagree. If I was single and had a lot of miles to cover, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. They're an excellent value used.

[David]

because they are cheap as $hit.

[Cobra Commander]

They would make a cool daily, but that is about as far as that goes. GM failed with that car.

[David]

Part of me wants to get my hands on a black one and teach it some new tricks... it's like feeling bad for a kid on the street and wanting to take em' under your wing and give em a chance..

[CustomSSI]

I've always wanted to build one too, but they are worse than Fbodys since you gotta spend $4000 or so for traction that won't break to start with LOL. You can shave a decent amount of weight off of them if need be...

[David]

but then the interior looks like a real pile of poo...

[86Shelby]

I'd rather buy a wrecked one and transplant the engine.

[Cobra Commander]

but then the interior looks like a real pile of poo...

I will never ***** about the feel of those seats. Too bad they take 10 years to motorize forward in order to crawl into the back seat. it doesn't help that the huge seat bolsters keep the back from folding completely forward to make more room when getting in.

I could ***** about those cars for a very long time actually. There are endless little things that really **** you off when driving the car. I could never own one. Thats too bad, because I really wanted to buy a GTO back when they first came out.

[DSMRob]

haterade
I love the new (now old) GTOs. to me they look like a beefed up GTP, but still LS2, Sexy body, nice interior

ZZINNGGER

[CrazyPete]

their actually a decnt car my buddy has one for what it is its not that bad

[Bobby Light]

actually they are big heavy piles of gay

[Cobra Commander]

haterade

Hardly. I hopped into those cars liking them. I got out hating them. Actually, driving over 5 GTOs is what gained my hate.

They would be a great daily if there wasn't a laundry list of stupid **** that bothers me about the car.

[swaggy853]

I drove an auto and was not impressed at all. I raced a 6-speed with the blue camaro and was extremely unimpressed. Both were ls2 cars.

[Cobra Commander]

Ya, the first one I drove was a blue with blue seats LS1 car. That thing was SLOOOOOW. I remember hopping back in my '03 GT that day and it actually felt "fast" in comparison. That isn't saying much. :lol:

[cole]

i just wanna put the seats in my car

[Cobra Commander]

I hear that. I don't know why they put such wonderful seats in such a shitty car.

[Alley]

There **** slow. I raced one at SW 12th and destroyed it. Over 6 cars or something stupid like that.

[86Shelby]

I hear that. I don't know why they put such wonderful seats in such a shitty car.

So it's tolerable to drive.

[Cobra Commander]

I really want to say yes, but there is soooo many other factors that really put 2nd thoughts in your head. If I were to judge a car by it's seating alone, then the GTO is top notch all around! !! :lol:

[Dozer]

I test drove one at a dealership in Fremont and I liked it a lot. The best part was seeing the salesman's head snap back when he told me to get into it. It happened 3 times.

[Fyrtruck]

I love the GTO's especially with the SAP.

[Cobra Commander]

The best part was seeing the salesman's head snap back when he told me to get into it.

Did you get rear ended repeatedly or something, because we all know the car's power wasn't what was to blame for the neck snapping. :lol:

[STOK5OH]

id rather have a yugo with a rotary swap.

[srt-4_uk]

I saw one get beat by a stock cobalt ss with a tune. Then they both got pulled over.

[Dozer]

I didnt think it was that slow but not terribly quick either. Salesman coulda be used to driveing mustangs. That would makes any car seem fast as hell.

[C.J.]

If I were to judge a car by it's seating alone, then the GTO is top notch all around! !! :lol:

since when don't you? your in love with SHO's lol and everybody knows all they have going for them is those wonderful seats.

[dunnster76]

haterade
I love the new (now old) GTOs. to me they look like a beefed up GTP, but still LS2, Sexy body, nice interior

ZZINNGGER

They look nothing like a GTP ... more like a Cavalier.

[rickyvtec]

GTO's are awesome cars. Australia doesn't give two shits about weight, so they load them decently. Put one around some cones and see how it performs then. THey are made for the long haul with luxury + performance. The best thing for a GTO is leave it stock... maybe exhaust if you want it to sound cool. That's as far as anyone should go. The drivetrain is a chain reaction, as Josh said. Check out BMR's site.. it's disgusting what they take to run drag race.

all in all, I'd ****ing LOVE one. talk about the perfect daily. even more so, I'd like it's cadillac counterpart, the CTS-V.. OOOhhhh ****ing drool

[rickyvtec]

I didnt think it was that slow but not terribly quick either. Salesman coulda be used to driveing mustangs. That would makes any car seem fast as hell.

Dude... stop right there. you must not have gotten the memo back in 2000 that the ford/chevy bullshit war is over. k thx bye... and this coming from the guy with an OMG 3.8 camaro. I guarantee you the average fox body with a grand dumped into would snap off from your car like it was sitting still, and possibly even an ls1 if done right.

[STOK5OH]

I didnt think it was that slow but not terribly quick either. Salesman coulda be used to driveing mustangs. That would makes any car seem fast as hell.


ya ok,bolt your super 6 packer back together and I'll break you off 5 bus lengths at 1/2 throttle.

[antidookie]

nothing like going 140 mph, and not having the car feel loose at all, being in complete control, and the car is still pulling hard:woot:

[STOK5OH]

oh,ya...I bet the thing is just screeeeaming for more at 140. :rolleyes:

[rickyvtec]

hahaa no ****. my ls1 against dan's vr4 at 140+ was going good still, but it certainly wasn't going OMGOMG MORE MORE!!!!

[antidookie]

:rofl:

[Dozer]

QUOTE]I guarantee you the average fox body with a grand dumped into would snap off from your car like it was sitting still, and possibly even an ls1 if done right.[/QUOTE]


LOL... Thats great. IF duct tape could fix a piston with a hole in it and my head it'd be done in a heartbeat. Ill have it in Lincoln come summertime.

Ive cruised at about 155mph with the omg 3.8 maro.

[David]

I guarantee you the average fox body with a grand dumped into would snap off from your car like it was sitting still, and possibly even an ls1 if done right.


LOL... Thats great. IF duct tape could fix a piston with a hole in it and my head it'd be done in a heartbeat. Ill have it in Lincoln come summertime.

Ive cruised at about 155mph with the omg 3.8 maro.


I wish i just had a grand in my car. :lol: **** tires would half that amount and by the time i put in a new output shaft to keep the tires spinning after the launch i'd have like $200.00. So where can i find a $200 mod that will put me in the 10's.

[rickyvtec]

Ive cruised at about 155mph with the omg 3.8 maro.

still waiting for the impressive statement

[82355]

What isn't to love? They are a non gay Grand Prix.

Martin

[Dozer]

Ive cruised at about 155mph with the omg 3.8 maro.

still waiting for the impressive statement


Werent you bragging about 140mph in a LS1? Just beingable to beat V8's with a V6 and get V6 insurance, 30+ mpg highway. I dont care if your impressed or not. Just saying.

[Dozer]

I guarantee you the average fox body with a grand dumped into would snap off from your car like it was sitting still, and possibly even an ls1 if done right.


LOL... Thats great. IF duct tape could fix a piston with a hole in it and my head it'd be done in a heartbeat. Ill have it in Lincoln come summertime.

Ive cruised at about 155mph with the omg 3.8 maro.


I wish i just had a grand in my car. :lol: **** tires would half that amount and by the time i put in a new output shaft to keep the tires spinning after the launch i'd have like $200.00. So where can i find a $200 mod that will put me in the 10's.


I bought my nitrous kit for $275. That might put you in the 10's.

[David]

Your right... it might.. but thats only after the other 2k i already have invested in my car..

[Cobra Commander]

I'd like it's cadillac counterpart, the CTS-V.. OOOhhhh ****ing drool

:bow1:

[GTPpower]

Wow, some ****ing retards on here...get back in your honduh

[David]

k

[redsled]

I always did fancy me an LS2 GTO. Great for cruising, and comfort and can still crack a mid 13. Not too shabby IMO.

[86Shelby]

One would be great for a daily. Certainly better than a flippin Omni! :lol:

[Cobra Commander]

Ya, but there are FAR better daily cars out there for that kind of money. GTO fails again.

[srt-4_uk]

One would be great for a daily. Certainly better than a flippin Omni! :lol:

LIES!!

[Dozer]

Dont they get like mid 20 mpg oh hwy too?

[Cobra Commander]

OMG BBQ! All 3 of my Mustangs got that.

A M6 LS1 F-Body will get almost 30, so once again the GTO fails.

[David]

My cammed vette gets 28-32mpg. Depends on conditions and my driving....

[rickyvtec]

Ive cruised at about 155mph with the omg 3.8 maro.

still waiting for the impressive statement


Werent you bragging about 140mph in a LS1? Just beingable to beat V8's with a V6 and get V6 insurance, 30+ mpg highway. I dont care if your impressed or not. Just saying.

wtf are you talking about? I was not bragging a bit. I said it was pulling ok at 140, but not begging for more.

don't spread your V6 failure denial syndrome on everybody else

[spoonraker]

An LS1 F-Body getting 30 MPG? :rofl:

Maybe at 50 MPH coasting...

[rickyvtec]

An LS1 F-Body getting 30 MPG? :rofl:

Maybe at 50 MPH coasting...

You obviously know nothing. autos get around 26 and 6speeds get 29-30. fact.

[spoonraker]

Like I said, on the highway...maybe I could see getting close to 30.

There is no way in hell an LS1 gets 30MPG or anywhere near that around town.

Maybe it's possible for it to get upper 20s when you are driving specifically with the intent of getting the best possible fuel economy, but everything I've been reading suggests that most LS1 drivers are getting 17-20 MPG in town.

[Cobra Commander]

Skip Shift option *****!!!

But yes, it is known that LS1 F-Bodies, C5s, etc can pull off close to 30mpg if you drive like a normal human being. ****, even my dad's GT will pull off 27mpg these days I guess, and that is lacking the extra overdrive in the T-56 that LS1's have.

[STOK5OH]

Ive cruised at about 155mph with the omg 3.8 maro.

still waiting for the impressive statement


Werent you bragging about 140mph in a LS1? Just beingable to beat V8's with a V6 and get V6 insurance, 30+ mpg highway. I dont care if your impressed or not. Just saying.



don't spread your V6 failure denial syndrome on everybody else

:lol:

[spoonraker]

Skipping shifts, accelerating ungodly slow, never raising the RPMs, coasting up to stoplights and hardly ever braking, not using your AC, and never exceeding 50 MPH can hardly be considered driving normally. These are the things it would take to get an LS1 to get 30MPG in town, and even then I can't see it happening unless you have a very straight drive to work with hardly any stops and you have a perfectly tuned motor.

Who drives an LS1 car like that anyway?

Basically what I'm saying is this : It's attainable, just completely unrealistic. That's like saying your Z06 is a 10 second car because one guy managed to do it.

My Civic gets 30 MPG in town driving normally. I could probably get 40+ MPG if I really really tried, but I don't go around saying my car gets 40 MPG

[rickyvtec]

who ever said this 30mpg was in-town mileage? the general assumption of fuel mileage is always highway figures.

[David]

who ever said this 30mpg was in-town mileage? the general assumption of fuel mileage is always highway figures.

btw i get between 8-18mpg in town depending on my driving habits. :lol: as you can see i'm very consistant.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET 30MPG INTOWN WITH AN LS1 CAR. If it were possible... it would be sold that way.

[spoonraker]

I assumed we were talking about in-town or at least mixed driving because people talking about "driving normally", skipping gears, things you don't need to do while cruising on the highway. Also my second reply was "On the highway maybe, but in town......" and people kept debating so I assumed.

I could easily see an LS1 getting mid to upper 20s MPG on the highway, maybe low 30s if it was well tuned and the wind was helping or something like that.

[82355]

Darin Urwin got 33 mpg in his '98 Trans Am on the interstate between Lincoln and Denver. It also ran a 12.23 (on a stock 10 bolt).

Martin

[redsled]

^ I like how you slipped in the comment about the stock 10 bolt rawfle.

[Dozer]

Ive cruised at about 155mph with the omg 3.8 maro.

still waiting for the impressive statement


Werent you bragging about 140mph in a LS1? Just beingable to beat V8's with a V6 and get V6 insurance, 30+ mpg highway. I dont care if your impressed or not. Just saying.

wtf are you talking about? I was not bragging a bit. I said it was pulling ok at 140, but not begging for more.

don't spread your V6 failure denial syndrome on everybody else


V6 denial syndrome:confused:

Would that mean im denying that I drive a V6? Haters these days. But if I were you id be showing off that honda too.

[Dozer]

Oh and by the way, I read your sig. If your still running those platinum plugs with the nitrous I suggest you switch. Plantium plugs can cause detonation. You wanna go a couple heat ranges colder from stock for nitrous use. Just FYI.

[STOK5OH]

ohh,no ****??

[David]

btw... the other night while traveling to dinner from my house on the north side of town... to mac. grill down at south point... i some how average 23 mpg after filling up and resetting my mpg. I got greeen lights all the way there and was cruising in 6th..

[GTPpower]

Is you mpg gauge right? I know mine was way off after I cammed and tuned the car.

[David]

yes

[GTPpower]

you suck

[rickyvtec]

uhh no idiot I'm still using bosch platinums and owning newbs like yourself dumbshit

[redsled]

^ He was just trying to help you, faggot.

[David]

:headchop:

[86Shelby]

I could get 30 mpg in town in an M6 LS1 that I don't care about. I would need to not care about it to get the mileage though.

[David]

just dont' stop? stip it down to nothing?

[Dozer]

uhh no idiot I'm still using bosch platinums and owning newbs like yourself dumbshit

Thats fine keep them in. Cars run good with detonation. When summer comes around ill have my car in town and you can show me how good your car runs.

[Dozer]

I averaged 27mg town/highway. 3800 II A4 3.08. Worst was 12 w/ heavy foot best was 41mpg.

[STOK5OH]

Can you show me how good your car runs this summer?
Come on and bag another mustang,I'll give you the 660 out.

[Dozer]

:lol: YOU BET! How about we go straight up for at least the first time. You know just to see where we're at.

[STOK5OH]

Heads up,run what you brung...$200?

[AeroSS_87]

uhh no idiot I'm still using bosch platinums and owning newbs like yourself dumbshit

Thats fine keep them in. Cars run good with detonation. When summer comes around ill have my car in town and you can show me how good your car runs.

OMG really how many people does it take to prove Ricky's damn car? It's getting disgusting. And fun. :rofl:

[Dozer]

Heads up,run what you brung...$200?

I'll answer that when I have it running.

[swaggy853]

:lol: YOU BET! How about we go straight up for at least the first time. You know just to see where we're at.

...Just like pinks, bring your video cameras.

[Dozer]

:lol: YOU BET! How about we go straight up for at least the first time. You know just to see where we're at.

...Just like pinks, bring your video cameras.

Rite-o. Im ready for the new season.

[STOK5OH]

Heads up,run what you brung...$200?

I'll answer that when I have it running.


Don't bother,you seem like a decent guy and it wouldn't be very nice to take your money. Trust me,it wouldn't even be a close to fair race. :Thumb:

[Johnny]

I love it when people think they are close to hanging with it...

[STOK5OH]

nothing can even come close to hanging with it,as far as bein ugly goes.

[Johnny]

^lol

[82355]

nothing can even come close to hanging with it,as far as bein ugly goes.

Bullshit.

Martin

[STOK5OH]

Is that a callout??!

[Dozer]

Its an ugly comp now? How about this, when I get it to town let you check it out and see if it is worthy enough to run against you. Work?

[STOK5OH]

oh,ok.