Blu Ray vs HD-DVD

[dave]

this ought to settle the debate and hopefully i wont have to see anything else about it.

[David]

you can pretty much count on it to come up like LS1's and 32v's for a good while. no poll can kill the Blu ray


learn it, live it, love it.... blu ray for life.

[toom1h]

Unfortunatley this won't may be an never ending debate.

And where is the regular dvd player option at?

[David]

next the i suck at life option.

[Alley]

The haters will outweight the people that will actually make a informed and educated decision. So HD DVD will probably win this poll.

[Alley]

This is what Micheal Bay just said whne he found out about Warner going blu.

Bay:
Well another studio down. Maybe I was right? Blu ray is just better. HD will die a slow death. It's what I predicted a year ago. Now with Warner's down for the count with Blu Ray. That makes it easier for Wal-Mart to push Blu Ray. And whatever Wal-Mart pushes - wins. Hd better start giving out those $120 million dollars checks to stay alive. Maybe they can give me some so I can give it to my Make-A-Wish charity, just to shut me up. Have faith people Transformers will come out in Blu-ray one day!

[spoonraker]

From a technology standpoint, I think blu-ray has a very slight edge over HD-DVD simply in the fact that it has a larger capacity disk. That may not be being fully utilized yet, but in the future it could be used for more content or higher resolution video.

The slight technological difference aside, as somebody who will be using HD technology in the future, I have to ask myself, do I really want Sony to have control over the content, the media, and the hardware to play it?

Sony having so much power could work out fine, but given Sony's history I wouldn't count on the consumer being a top priority. If it does happen, only time will tell...

[JesterMX6]

until HD becomes the norm i'll stick with my regular dvd's

[Cotnerdude]

I am going to stick with regular DVD until Blu ray starts to become better and really start to take the lead. Blu ray will use there higher resolution video. But right now it is pretty much the same as HD DVD. I am thinking I will have the PS3 around June to be honest.

[Cotnerdude]

Plus by then some Blu ray DVDs might lower in cost

[Alley]

Would you rather have Microsoft in controll of yet another market?

[BOORAH]

I'll stick with HD-DVD until Bluray comes down to the same price as HD-DVD, then i will switch sides!!!! MU-HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[spoonraker]

I am going to stick with regular DVD until Blu ray starts to become better and really start to take the lead. Blu ray will use there higher resolution video. But right now it is pretty much the same as HD DVD. I am thinking I will have the PS3 around June to be honest.

I don't understand how you can know me so well, but still believe that. :lol:

Blu-ray doesn't have higher resolution video than HD-DVD :Hammer:

Anyway, if HD-DVD becomes the new format it won't be Microsoft in control of everything. It will be all the exact same companies it is now.

[dave]

im just going to use xvids....omg lawl

[¿umop apisdn]

This is what Micheal Bay just said

**** michael bay, he should learn to make a quality movie for once!

[dsmdarryl]

so by reading all these threads all i have gathered is that blu-ray has larger capacity discs and it has dbox?

how many gigs is a blu-ray again?

read this: http://www.techkills.com/324-future-protein-based-dvd-discs-hold-terabytes-of-storage.html

[David]

its not the only tech that got potiental. Technology isn't just about the discovery... it's about it's use and marketing... also how long it will last

blu ray could be one of the last storage disc.

[Thunder]

this poll is officially one for the devil.

[SHIFTER]

Retarded ass poll.... everyone has their own view and really its pointless.

I own a hddvd player right now, you find me a bluray player that does 1080p and dolby truehd via optical out for 200 or less ill buy it too.

I think hddvd has taken a big blow tho with Warners switch to bluray only, we'll see. The CEO of warner truely believes this may end the battle... i think it might. We'll see.

[SHIFTER]

blu ray could be one of the last storage disc.

worst statement evar. seriously theres no way you could think that future data will always be able to fit on a bluray disk. if the past has shown us anything, blurays lifespan will be 10 years max if i were to guess..... this is assuming it becomes the dominate format. there will be other storage formats, i would assume in disc form... however that might change as well.

[coop]

+1 for who fkn cares

[Thunder]

+1 for who fkn cares

[SHIFTER]

+1 for who fkn cares

qft

[dave]

Retarded ass poll.... everyone has their own view and really its pointless.



thats kind of the point of the poll. not to be retarded, but to show that it really doesnt ****ing matter. but you apparently are too slow to understand that.

[spoonraker]

blu ray could be one of the last storage disc.

worst statement evar. seriously theres no way you could think that future data will always be able to fit on a bluray disk. if the past has shown us anything, blurays lifespan will be 10 years max if i were to guess..... this is assuming it becomes the dominate format. there will be other storage formats, i would assume in disc form... however that might change as well.

^well said

Ask somebody from 20 years ago what a gigabyte is, if they even are familiar with the concept they will tell you that there is no way on earth anything would ever use that much space.

[dave]

not quite spoon. but close, i guess..it by 'no way' you meant 'way'
1 gigabyte 20 years ago...

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/images/storage_1gb.jpg

[David]

blu ray could be one of the last storage disc.

worst statement evar. seriously theres no way you could think that future data will always be able to fit on a bluray disk. if the past has shown us anything, blurays lifespan will be 10 years max if i were to guess..... this is assuming it becomes the dominate format. there will be other storage formats, i would assume in disc form... however that might change as well.

^well said

Ask somebody from 20 years ago what a gigabyte is, if they even are familiar with the concept they will tell you that there is no way on earth anything would ever use that much space.

YOU ARE BOTH RETARDED IF THATS WHAT YOU TOOK AWAY FROM THAT:rolleye:

[dsmdarryl]

this protein coated disc seems pretty interesting.. potentially 50k gigs, even if they've only created ones that old 1TB that's still pretty impressive.

[David]

For the retards above.. i don't think we will be using disc like blu ray/dvd for much longer.

[dsmdarryl]

lol i caught the sarcasm. that's why i didn't comment. i'm going to research some more info on this.. try to find a timeline to figure out how long this type of thing has been known.

[David]

this probably wont' be ready anytime soon... but..

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9000446

[dsmdarryl]

well lol, at least they said it was promising!

________


i remember in 8th grade science our teacher said that scientists learn twice as much as we already know every year.

[spoonraker]

You need yellow text next time David. After some of your posts, I wouldn't put it past you to think blu-ray was going to be the last storage device ever created.

[David]

You need yellow text next time David. After some of your posts, I wouldn't put it past you to think blu-ray was going to be the last storage device ever created.


I dont' need yellow text. you just need to learn how to read. you open your mouth before knowning whats going on more than anyone else on this board.

[dave]

^ tis true...

[spoonraker]

blu ray could be one of the last storage disc.

If you leave it that short you can interpret that sentence a number of ways. The way I and several other people interpreted it was that you believed Blu-ray had the lasting power to be the last storage device ever used.

Now that I see you getting upset and read through it a few more times I realize that if you emphasize the "disk" part of it, then you could be saying that in the future disks of any kind won't be used as storage.

And dave, shut up, you replied to my misinterpretation of his post as if you didn't even notice it yourself. Obviously there is no way to prove that you had made the same mistake, but you would think that instead of arguing with me you would have called me out on it since you're always so quick to do so, which you didn't.

Anyway David. Now that I realize what you meant to say I agree completely. I always thought disks were stupid to begin with. They are easily damaged and take up too much space. Sure a CD/DVD/Blu-ray isn't that big by its self, but the cases you put them in are. Once other technology becomes as cheap to produce as disks they will be gone.

[dave]

^summary, blah blah....

paragraph 2

im right and everyone else is wrong. how could you all be so blind?

more meaningless banter.

conclusion

[SHIFTER]

blu ray could be one of the last storage disc.

worst statement evar. seriously theres no way you could think that future data will always be able to fit on a bluray disk. if the past has shown us anything, blurays lifespan will be 10 years max if i were to guess..... this is assuming it becomes the dominate format. there will be other storage formats, i would assume in disc form... however that might change as well.

^well said

Ask somebody from 20 years ago what a gigabyte is, if they even are familiar with the concept they will tell you that there is no way on earth anything would ever use that much space.

YOU ARE BOTH RETARDED IF THATS WHAT YOU TOOK AWAY FROM THAT:rolleye:

I wondered, but i had been drinking and hadnt really read into the comment enough obviously. lolz

[coop]

blu ray could be one of the last storage disc.

If you leave it that short you can interpret that sentence a number of ways. The way I and several other people interpreted it was that you believed Blu-ray had the lasting power to be the last storage device ever used.

Now that I see you getting upset and read through it a few more times I realize that if you emphasize the "disk" part of it, then you could be saying that in the future disks of any kind won't be used as storage.

And dave, shut up, you replied to my misinterpretation of his post as if you didn't even notice it yourself. Obviously there is no way to prove that you had made the same mistake, but you would think that instead of arguing with me you would have called me out on it since you're always so quick to do so, which you didn't.

Anyway David. Now that I realize what you meant to say I agree completely. I always thought disks were stupid to begin with. They are easily damaged and take up too much space. Sure a CD/DVD/Blu-ray isn't that big by its self, but the cases you put them in are. Once other technology becomes as cheap to produce as disks they will be gone.

i think we need to start requesting cliffs

[spoonraker]

I think you and dave need to stop following me around and flaming every post I make.

[coop]

I think you and dave need to stop following me around and flaming every post I make.

following you?

hahaha



btw...this is your shortest post on SCR....

[dsmdarryl]

this forum is small, how can you not follow people around?

[coop]

im following you darryl

[spoonraker]

Ok maybe following wasn't the right word, but stop splitting hairs you know what I'm talking about.

Every time I say something, even if it is perfectly on topic, not at all directed toward or involving you, and you have no interest in the thread, you come in and post some smartass reply about how unnecessarily lengthy my posts are.

I'm sorry that I don't communicate with single sentence replies all the time, get over it.

[dsmdarryl]

im following you darryl

straight to the bedroom

[dave]

Ok maybe following wasn't the right word, but stop splitting hairs you know what I'm talking about.

Every time I say something, even if it is perfectly on topic, not at all directed toward or involving you, and you have no interest in the thread, you come in and post some smartass reply about how unnecessarily lengthy my posts are.

I'm sorry that I don't communicate with single sentence replies all the time, get over it.

perfectly on topic, like you suggesting that i follow you around on the board.
suggesting that somehow you arrived in the thread i created first, and i followed you in here?

give me a ****ing break.

[coop]

im following you darryl

straight to the bedroom

****...have to make a quick store fun for more condoms.....ill be back darryl

[coop]

Ok maybe following wasn't the right word, but stop splitting hairs you know what I'm talking about.

Every time I say something, even if it is perfectly on topic, not at all directed toward or involving you, and you have no interest in the thread, you come in and post some smartass reply about how unnecessarily lengthy my posts are.

I'm sorry that I don't communicate with single sentence replies all the time, get over it.

perfectly on topic, like you suggesting that i follow you around on the board.
suggesting that somehow you arrived in the thread i created first, and i followed you in here?

give me a ****ing break.

just cuz you created the thread dave doesnt mean he followed you....it means that you enticed him like a pedo giving candy to a kindergartener

[spoonraker]

perfectly on topic, like you suggesting that i follow you around on the board.
suggesting that somehow you arrived in the thread i created first, and i followed you in here?

give me a ****ing break.

This isn't the only thread where you have done this.

I never said I was always on topic. I said that even if I am on topic and it has nothing to do with you, you still have some smartass thing to say about whatever I post.

[dave]

lawl. im sorry, my candy is delicious though.

[dave]

perfectly on topic, like you suggesting that i follow you around on the board.
suggesting that somehow you arrived in the thread i created first, and i followed you in here?

give me a ****ing break.

This isn't the only thread where you have done this.

I never said I was always on topic. I said that even if I am on topic and it has nothing to do with you, you still have some smartass thing to say about whatever I post.

thats bullshit and oyu know it. if anything, you follow me and coop around and try to correct us on **** that we are correct about initially.

thats why i have a problem with you. your pompus ****ing attitude that somehow i can post something that is 100% correct, and you feel that i dont know what im talking about and you have to CORRECT SOMETHING THAT ISNT WRONG with gazioallinsoons of words that all come down to the same thing.....
you try to say
'youre right, but you dont know why'

WALELEEEEEL **** you. dont correct people when they correct just so you can 1-up them. bad, bad character.

[spoonraker]

I don't know what you're talking about.

David (not you) said something that I believed to be a really dumb statement. Turns out that I (along with others) simply misinterpreted it. I just explained why I got the wrong impression and then moved on with the thread at which point you felt the need to post this :


^summary, blah blah....

paragraph 2

im right and everyone else is wrong. how could you all be so blind?

more meaningless banter.

conclusion

Feel free to tell me why flaming me like that was justified and you aren't just an asshole.

[MadmaX]

Ssshhhhhhh.

[coop]

perfectly on topic, like you suggesting that i follow you around on the board.
suggesting that somehow you arrived in the thread i created first, and i followed you in here?

give me a ****ing break.

This isn't the only thread where you have done this.

I never said I was always on topic. I said that even if I am on topic and it has nothing to do with you, you still have some smartass thing to say about whatever I post.

Thats bullshit and you know it. If anything, you follow coop and I around and try to correct us on **** that we were correct about initially.

Thats why I have a problem with you. Your pompus ****ing attitude that somehow I can post something that is 100% correct and you feel that I don't know what I'm talking about and you have to CORRECT SOMETHING THAT ISN'T WRONG with an absurd amount of words that all come down to the same thing.
you try to say
"You're right, but you don't know why"

Well **** you. Don't correct people when they were correct just so you can 1-up them. That is of bad, bad character.

fixed dave....and 1 upped

[dave]

First you misinterpret what david said, and said that 20 years ago it was impossible to store 1 gig.

i showed you what a gig looked like 20 years ago. (until the link stoped working)

you realize you misinterpret what david said.

david says you reply too fast and dont think, i agree.

this is where the logic becomes so bat **** crazy, no one would understand.
although my presentation of a gig 20 years ago was 100% accurate. and it proved you wrong; somehow you think that because you could not comprehend what david wrote, that was i said was wrong too.

so you were 100% incorrect on 2 issues. i corrected you on 1 of those. my statement was 100% correct.

but youre saying im 100% incorrect because you were 100% incorrect and i only corrected you on 50% of your mistakes.

doesnt work like that.

[spoonraker]

First you misinterpret what david said, and said that 20 years ago it was impossible to store 1 gig.

i showed you what a gig looked like 20 years ago. (until the link stoped working)

I think you need to read a bit more carefully. I said IF YOU ASKED somebody 20 years ago what a gigabyte was most people wouldn't have any idea, and nobody would BELIEVE that we would ever need that much space. I was simply making a comment because when I wrote that I believed David was being incredibly narrow minded.


you realize you misinterpret what david said.
yep


david says you reply too fast and dont think, i agree.
great


this is where the logic becomes so bat **** crazy, no one would understand.
although my presentation of a gig 20 years ago was 100% accurate. and it proved you wrong; somehow you think that because you could not comprehend what david wrote, that was i said was wrong too.

so you were 100% incorrect on 2 issues. i corrected you on 1 of those. my statement was 100% correct.

Would it confuse you if I used a quote from what I'm quoting to respond to what I'm quoting? Because in this case I feel like this reply summarizes it pretty well :

"this is where the logic becomes so bat **** crazy, no one would understand"

[dsmdarryl]

this thread sucks

[coop]

following you

[coop]

haha....i was going to post after spoon....but yet i still follow darryl

[spoonraker]

here ya go, if you reply fast enough you can follow me now

[dsmdarryl]

gotcha *****!

[David]

bump for a good read and proving a point.

[JesterMX6]

yep. great point. i voted for "who the **** cares"

and in the end. regular DVD's are still the top seller....sooo.......no one cared

[David]

im going to no one cares your mom. and not the point I was making.

[spoonraker]

Why the hell was this thread bumped?

[AWeb80]

until HD becomes the norm i'll stick with my regular dl'd movies

fixed....for me.

[s13curtis]

It's almost worth getting an HD DVD player still, or the player for the 360 at least. HD DVD's are DIRT CHEAP on Amazon, and there are alot of good movies on HD DVD that aren't on Blu Ray. For example, the Matrix Trilogy and Bourne Trilogy. The 360 players are around $35 on Amazon right now, and just as cheap on ebay, so it's almost worth the price...

[David]

but all of those movies will eventually be moved to blu ray... For example transformers will be on blu ray sept 3.

[David]

Why the hell was this thread bumped?


you know why... referr to posts made by coop and dave.

[spoonraker]

Why the hell was this thread bumped?


you know why... referr to posts made by coop and dave.

Uhmm....dave/coop and I were butting heads a lot that day, at least it seemed that way to me, so I said something about they always post smartass comments no matter how on topic I am, they disagreed, a whole bunch of stupid bickering ensued, and not much about the original topic was ever discussed. You sure proved a lot.

[srt-4_uk]

but all of those movies will eventually be moved to blu ray... For example transformers will be on blu ray sept 3.

true but those movies are at full price. The savings in the movies alone will cover the cost HD dvd player after 4 movies.

[David]

^^ but then you have to maintain HD ownership to make use of those videos.

[David]

Why the hell was this thread bumped?


you know why... referr to posts made by coop and dave.

Uhmm....dave/coop and I were butting heads a lot that day, at least it seemed that way to me, so I said something about they always post smartass comments no matter how on topic I am, they disagreed, a whole bunch of stupid bickering ensued, and not much about the original topic was ever discussed. You sure proved a lot.


You sure cry alot and attempt to prove you're right about anything and everything.... Dave stated that a long time ago, it's not a new development.

[spoonraker]

Actually, I believe I've admitted I've been wrong quite a few times. It doesn't always change my stance on whatever issue may be being discussed, but it happens. If anybody, you are the one that's always right. Every thread where you debate, you are right, no matter what it is. I've seen you come up with some of the most absolutely ridiculous illogical arguments ever to prove your point. Whenever somebody actually stands up to you on an issue, it blows up to a million posts, and you usually end up going completely off topic, bumping other threads, or creating new related threads in an attempt to prove the person wrong about anything that may or may not be at all related to the debate, because as we've already seen, you think that makes you right....just look at this thread.

[David]

Log out? obviously you're butthurt.. it's ok, once you log out everyone will forgot about you.

[srt-4_uk]

^^ but then you have to maintain HD ownership to make use of those videos.

yes but isnt that like people that still use mini disc players. Yeah the **** it obsolete but it is still high def movies at a fraction of the cost.

[David]

sounds like a pain... not saying your wrong, just that maintaining old/outdated tech is a pain.

[srt-4_uk]

yeah it is but look at how many people still play NES

[AWeb80]

yeah it is but look at how many people still play NES

>*> ps3

[David]

^^ you better be wearing a bullet proof vest when you drop off my check.