The mall cruiser K10 is sold.

[BS_z28]

Start compiling stuff I should buy for my my k15.

1) Lockers
2) Tires?
3) Hydraulic Assist?
4) Shackle Flip
5) Zero Rates
6) 1 inch body lift.
7) Crossover steering for d60.
8) Propane?

I have a lot of options, but I don't know where to start. Help me out.

[Hillbilly]

Yes to all the above.

I would go lockers in the 60 with cross over and a shakle fit first

Mine doesn't have hyd assist yet and it does ok. I have done a few tricks to my pump.

[82355]

What gears are in your Dana 60?

Martin

[Hillbilly]

4.10s but he could get a detroit and 4.56s

[BS_z28]

What gears are in your Dana 60?

Martin

I don't know yet. It was originally a 6.2/sm465/205. I would guess 4.11's so I would have to order gears as well for the front if I want to keep 4.56s.

Or I could do the doubler and run 4.11s.

[Hillbilly]

If you run the 4.10 carrier you will need a spacer for the 4.56s or you could buy a detroit.

[96speedZ28]

How much for your 3/4 axles?

[Hillbilly]

Remember the k30 rear has mounts that need to be moved.

[82355]

I would gear your Dana 60 to 4.56's, and install crossover steering first. Then go from there.

Martin

[slownova]

I may be making a similar post here soon.

[sn95.0]

Get the Camaro running.

[Hillbilly]

**** camaros

[toom1h]

**** camaros

[sn95.0]

**** camaros

Not when you are paying a loan on one that doesn't run.

[82355]

K10 > Camaro.

Martin

[C.J.]

Wait...Baker you still have the camaro?

[HINZ28]

He bought it back a while ago. Have you ever figured out what is wrong with it?

[BS_z28]

Get the Camaro running.

It is running. I have been driving it off and for the last week or two.

[BS_z28]

He bought it back a while ago. Have you ever figured out what is wrong with it?

Nope still don't know what was wrong with it. It was at The Shop for two months or so and the whole time it was there the car never acted up for them. I have it back and have been driving it, and have had no issues. So who knows it is working fine now.

[fmstruck]

If you run the 4.10 carrier you will need a spacer for the 4.56s or you could buy a detroit.

You can buy a thick 4.56 gear.

[fmstruck]

How much for your 3/4 axles?

Not to hijack, but I have a line on a pair as well.

[HINZ28]

He bought it back a while ago. Have you ever figured out what is wrong with it?

Nope still don't know what was wrong with it. It was at The Shop for two months or so and the whole time it was there the car never acted up for them. I have it back and have been driving it, and have had no issues. So who knows it is working fine now.

I believe cars are possessed. It must have been pissed of that you sold it

[BS_z28]

He bought it back a while ago. Have you ever figured out what is wrong with it?

Nope still don't know what was wrong with it. It was at The Shop for two months or so and the whole time it was there the car never acted up for them. I have it back and have been driving it, and have had no issues. So who knows it is working fine now.

I believe cars are possessed. It must have been pissed of that you sold it

Haha that's what I thought. The camaro was extra mad that it had to sit in the garage next to the truck that caused it to be sold.

[82355]

1) Regear and lock Dana 60
2) Lock 14 bolt
2) Shackle Flip
3) Cross over and hydraulic assist
4) TBI (or propane)

[Hillbilly]

1) Regear and lock Dana 60
2) Lock 14 bolt
2) Shackle Flip
3) Cross over and hydraulic assist
4) TBI (or propane)

[C.J.]

1) Regear and lock Dana 60
2) Lock 14 bolt
2) Shackle Flip
3) Cross over and hydraulic assist
4) TBI (or propane)

How does that work...regear the 60 and not the 14bolt? Is the 60 not under the truck at the moment or what?

[sn95.0]

1) Regear and lock Dana 60
2) Lock 14 bolt
2) Shackle Flip
3) Cross over and hydraulic assist
4) TBI (or propane)

How does that work...regear the 60 and not the 14bolt? Is the 60 not under the truck at the moment or what?

No, it has a 44 right now. He is taking the 60 from his K30 parts truck which has 4.10s and not 4.56s like his 14 bolt.

[BS_z28]

1) Regear and lock Dana 60
2) Lock 14 bolt
2) Shackle Flip
3) Cross over and hydraulic assist
4) TBI (or propane)

I agree with this except number one. I am debating leaving 4:10s for now, and save up for the doubler. Or should I just bite the bullet and Regear as well. The only problem I have with this is I could get a decent amount of money for my matching 3/4 tons with 4:56s. Or I debating regearing the front and leaving it open.

For the steering I have the full set up to convert to hydroboost brakes. What else is involved I need to do more research.

[BS_z28]

1) Regear and lock Dana 60
2) Lock 14 bolt
2) Shackle Flip
3) Cross over and hydraulic assist
4) TBI (or propane)

How does that work...regear the 60 and not the 14bolt? Is the 60 not under the truck at the moment or what?

No, it has a 44 right now. He is taking the 60 from his K30 parts truck which has 4.10s and not 4.56s like his 14 bolt.

Exactly

[Hillbilly]

Stop being a pussy. Gears AND a doubler. Posted via Mobile Device

[82355]

4.56's are actually pretty high gears once you get into 37" and bigger tires.

I have 38" tires with 4.56's and a doubler. It does not seem over geared at all.

Martin

[BS_z28]

4.56's are actually pretty high gears once you get into 37" and bigger tires.

I have 38" tires with 4.56's and a doubler. It does not seem over geared at all.

Martin

It is probably best to regear with 4.56s, The only problem I have with the doubler is I would need to account for the money to get my drive shafts redone and the would require quite a bit of extra $$$.

[Hillbilly]

4.56's are actually pretty high gears once you get into 37" and bigger tires.

I have 38" tires with 4.56's and a doubler. It does not seem over geared at all.

Martin

It is probably best to regear with 4.56s, The only problem I have with the doubler is I would need to account for the money to get my drive shafts redone and the would require quite a bit of extra $$$.

It isn't that bad to retube and you could pry do the front one. Hell people make them out of 2" receiver tube all the time.

[82355]

A long as your cv's and slip yokes are good, a simple retube is cheap.

Martin

[BS_z28]

A long as your cv's and slip yokes are good, a simple retube is cheap.

Martin

I have 3 front drive shaft spares and all of them are pretty much shot. I have to do some thinking. Is there a better place besides inland truck to do driveshafts my last retube was a couple hundred $$.

[Hillbilly]

Really? I think my whole driveshaft was 200 for the camaro. That was bigger ujoint and a yoke for the th400.

[BS_z28]

Really? I think my whole driveshaft was 200 for the camaro. That was bigger ujoint and a yoke for the th400.

I forgot that I had to get a u joint and yoke as well ****.

[BS_z28]

I have questions.
Is there any reason not to weld up the the rear instead of purchasing a locker?
What locker should I run in the front?
Lock Right- seems to not be a lot of complaints, $380ish
Spartan Locker- Newer, can't find a lot of info, $350
Detroit- People love them or hate them I feel, $600
Yukon Grizzly- Seem to be decent as well, $575

Are the Spartan or Lock right good options, I like the price point and they seem to be fairly reliable.

Next is Crossover steering options is ORD or NWF?

That is all for now.

[Hillbilly]

I have a lockrite front detroit rear ord cross over. I like them. Posted via Mobile Device

[82355]

I have a Lock Right in the rear of my '82 K30. It does some funny things, but it has been a decent locker overall (you get use to the odd characteristics).

My California K5 has a Detroit in the rear and a Lock Right in the front. I have limited experience with it, but it seems to perform fine.

As far as I am concerned, it seems like you would want the better quality locker in the rear. You are ALWAYS driving the rear axle when you are driving the vehicle. The front hubs are only locked when you are in 4x4.

As for Crossover. I like ORD.

Martin

[fmstruck]

I have had several lockrights in 14 bolts behind big blocks, D44s and Jeep rears, and have had no problems with them. I've truck pulled with 2 different ones and they survived. Even Marty can't break one.....you be the judge.

[Hillbilly]

But they do act different than detroits don't they jake.

[fmstruck]

Corrrect. Detroits aren't quite so harsh since they have the springs to tame them down. I think the lockrights are so much cheaper cause they threw out all the stuff that makes them easier to get along with. My opinion.

Sometimes mine can't decide what wheel it wants to drive when freewheeling and turning in a parking lot. It makes me look like I don't know how to drive a stick sometimes. Not that it matters to me, but you have to either be decellerating or accellerating to make it work smooth. For the money, I can live with it.

[Hillbilly]

I completely understand but there is a difference. In my k10 I wouldn't have anything else it is nearly invisible. In the k30 I could have went with a lockrite but I never notice it has a locker currently. Bundy has a Spool and he likes it but he never tows with it.

[HuskerJeep]

I have a spool in my 14 bolt and would never consider installing it in something that sees the street much. I'll most likely go with a Detroit in the next couple of years but needed to keep the cost down at the time I did the one ton swap under the Jeep. I failed at doing that anyway.

I bought Ballistic Fab arms for the 60 and like them, but would never do business with them again because they just plain suck at everything. These guys were real good to work with, quick, and had the stuff to me the same week.

http://www.wfoconcepts.com/Default.aspx

[BS_z28]

Thanks for the opinions. Hopefully soon I will be able to start ordering parts.

[96speedZ28]

Thanks for the opinions. Hopefully soon I will be able to start ordering parts.

When you do get parts and start working on this, I'd like to come help/watch and maybe learn a few things.

[Hillbilly]

Honestly were we live (on gravel) a spool would work OK but idk about lincoln.

[BS_z28]

Honestly were we live (on gravel) a spool would work OK but idk about lincoln.

I am contemplating it but I really drive this truck around a lot in town. It is basically my daily driver. I should just probably nut up and buy a Detroit.

[BS_z28]

Thanks for the opinions. Hopefully soon I will be able to start ordering parts.

When you do get parts and start working on this, I'd like to come help/watch and maybe learn a few things.

For sure. I will let you know when I start to compile my parts. I will be learning as I go as well. Trial and error.

[Hillbilly]

Honestly were we live (on gravel) a spool would work OK but idk about lincoln.

I am contemplating it but I really drive this truck around a lot in town. It is basically my daily driver. I should just probably nut up and buy a Detroit.

this

[96speedZ28]

Thanks for the opinions. Hopefully soon I will be able to start ordering parts.

When you do get parts and start working on this, I'd like to come help/watch and maybe learn a few things.

For sure. I will let you know when I start to compile my parts. I will be learning as I go as well. Trial and error.

:Thumb:

[HINZ28]

Ill bring the beer....

[C.J.]

I never had a problem with my lock rights. They take a little getting used to but are a simple design so less parts to break and cheap.

[HuskerJeep]

Honestly were we live (on gravel) a spool would work OK but idk about lincoln.

Yep. The few times I have had to wheel it since the swap, you couldn't even tell it had a spool because it was on grass and gravel. Backing it into my garage or out of the driveway sucks too, and you can even hear the tread gripping going around any kind of curve on the road. As I said cost was the biggest factor in my decision for the short term, but think of it this way...would you rather spend the extra money on a Detroit or have to replace your tires a couple years sooner because of the tread wear from daily driving?

[BS_z28]

Honestly were we live (on gravel) a spool would work OK but idk about lincoln.

Yep. The few times I have had to wheel it since the swap, you couldn't even tell it had a spool because it was on grass and gravel. Backing it into my garage or out of the driveway sucks too, and you can even hear the tread gripping going around any kind of curve on the road. As I said cost was the biggest factor in my decision for the short term, but think of it this way...would you rather spend the extra money on a Detroit or have to replace your tires a couple years sooner because of the tread wear from daily driving?

This sums it up pretty good for me. Thanks

[Hillbilly]

You can do what you want but I really like my detroits and I have never broken one. I have twisted off a drive shaft and broken the gears but never the detroit.

[82355]

I have both. I don't notice the Detroit. I notice the Lockright. It doesn't bother me. They both work.

Martin

[HuskerJeep]

Yep. I had a Detroit in both my old axles and never had an issue with them. The only time I would notice the rear on the street was getting on it a little going around a curve, and even then it wasn't bad. I think I drove one year in the snow with it too, but got used to going around corners with the front engaged. It's just a matter of getting the feel for it and know the tendencies of how they drive in different conditions.

Anyone hear anything about the Yukon Grizzly locker? If I remember right, that's what a lot of guys were running instead of Detroits, but I didn't pay much attention since I wasn't going to run it.


/heads over to pirate4x4.

[82355]

I got nothing.

Martin

[Hillbilly]

I will go on a limb and say any locker beats no locker.

The only other thing is I did a lock rite front because I may change gears at some point and 4.11-4.56 is the split on a dana 60. When I go deeper (if I do) I will most likely get a different front carrier instead of a spacer or thick gear.

[C.J.]

My favorite is the guys on the forums who say you cannot drive a locked vehicle in the snow on the street.

[82355]

Yeah, I don't get that either. I hate driving unlocked vehicles in the snow.

Martin

[Hillbilly]

Mine crab walk a little but are nearly unstoppable in anything except 3' snow.

[C.J.]

I like the predictability of a locker in the snow. If you can control your right foot you know exactly how the vehicle is going to act.

[82355]

I like the predictability of a locker in the snow. If you can control your right foot you know exactly how the vehicle is going to act.

Exactly.

It also beats sitting still with your speedometer reading 40 mph.

Martin

[C.J.]

and you will never need 4wd unless you are out screwing around.