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OMGLS1
29th January 2011, 12:07 AM
I have two questions, first:

My camaro is on storage insurance. Its protected from Fire, Weather, and vandalism, but I'm not allowed to drive it.

My question is, "can someone with insurance that covers anything they drive, legally drive my camaro?"

I want to take it out this spring for a few reasons, but keep the insurance down.

One, I'd like it to have some road time while it's nice. I want to take some pics by the lakes, and of course I want to run her with the srt4 :)

Second: I understand it is legal to carry a firearm, hangun in particular, in view, on your own property without any sort of permit. (concealed permit if you conceal it) BUT, I was curious if it was illegal to draw a gun on a human being who is trespassing on your property. (This is within city limits.) I know Omaha has some different rules on handguns and I'm sure Lincoln as well, but Fremont is more lenient, i'm just not sure 'how' lenient.

GC8U
29th January 2011, 12:10 AM
I'm pretty sure whoever you pull a gun on that is trespassing is not going to call the police and tell them he was trespassing and you pulled a gun on him.

OMGLS1
29th January 2011, 12:15 AM
I'm pretty sure whoever you pull a gun on that is trespassing is not going to call the police and tell them he was trespassing and you pulled a gun on him.

I've never actually done it, because I figured I'd be going to jail for a few years. Attempted murder or something. But i am curious.

GC8U
29th January 2011, 12:17 AM
Attempted murder would be if you discharged it toward him, or hit him, as far as I know. I will ask my criminal justice instructor when I have class this next week, I am fairly curious about it as well.

supercrackerbox
29th January 2011, 12:26 AM
As for the insurance, it's up to you to take the gamble. Just know that if anything unfortunate happens to the car, your insurance company will **** you and drop you.

And no, someone else's full coverage will not cover your car that is not carrying liability. Liability coverage for the car is required by law on all public roads.

OMGLS1
29th January 2011, 12:28 AM
As for the insurance, it's up to you to take the gamble. Just know that if anything unfortunate happens to the car, your insurance company will **** you and drop you.

And no, someone else's full coverage will not cover your car that is not carrying liability. Liability coverage for the car is required by law on all public roads.

Thank you. Thats too bad, but I guess its just a month of liability. maybe two.

ShadowFox
29th January 2011, 02:48 AM
If someone is on your property...I wouldnt go waving your gun at them outside. If someone breaks into your house and you are scared for you or your family's life, you have to do what you have to in order protect yourself. You have that right. Your property, however, is replaceable. Don't kill someone over taking your lawn mower...you will most likely have legal issues to deal with.

Now I'm not going to ramble on about gun safety, but one of the easiest principles I have been taught is "Don't point your gun at anything that you don't intend to shoot". Even if you point your gun at someone in order to get them off your property or whatever without having any intention to shoot them, and your gun goes off unintentionally, you are still responsible for what happened.

OMGLS1
29th January 2011, 06:17 AM
If someone is on your property...I wouldnt go waving your gun at them outside. If someone breaks into your house and you are scared for you or your family's life, you have to do what you have to in order protect yourself. You have that right. Your property, however, is replaceable. Don't kill someone over taking your lawn mower...you will most likely have legal issues to deal with.

Now I'm not going to ramble on about gun safety, but one of the easiest principles I have been taught is "Don't point your gun at anything that you don't intend to shoot". Even if you point your gun at someone in order to get them off your property or whatever without having any intention to shoot them, and your gun goes off unintentionally, you are still responsible for what happened.

That is very good advice. I understand gun safety very well and practice it when I go out target shooting. I was thinking more of scaring someone rather than actually using it to cause harm. If I remember right, doesn't Nebraska law say you may only use a gun in self defense if the man/woman has shown direct intention to cause you bodily harm, and has passed # of doors within your home?

Like I said above, I don't plan on waltzing outside with a gun in my hand because i found shoe prints in my driveway, but me and a few friends have been wondering for awhile. None of us have a criminal justice background to find out though. ( not something you just ask a random cop.)

cole
29th January 2011, 10:09 AM
i've always heard "if someone is breaking in, make sure they fall in to your house instead of outside"

zpeters
29th January 2011, 10:32 AM
if you shoot em, make sure you kill em so they can't sue you.

swaggy853
29th January 2011, 10:52 AM
if you shoot em, make sure you kill em so they can't sue you.

this is correct, assuming you have a reason for shooting them in the first place. if you cant prove that life was in danger, its murder.

but think about the situation before you pull a gun. you shouldnt pull a gun at all unless you intend to kill someone. say someone is on your property and you pull a gun on them and they are unarmed. they have a friend that is standing some distance away that you didnt notice. well, that friend IS armed and knows that the first guy is not. he has the right to shoot you because the life of his defenseless friend is in danger since you decided to pull the gun on him.

now youre dead and do you think that guy is going to get tried for murder? maybe, but he has a damn good defense and the other two guys are the only witnesses.

zpeters
29th January 2011, 02:37 PM
if you shoot em, make sure you kill em so they can't sue you.

this is correct, assuming you have a reason for shooting them in the first place. if you cant prove that life was in danger, its murder.

but think about the situation before you pull a gun. you shouldnt pull a gun at all unless you intend to kill someone. say someone is on your property and you pull a gun on them and they are unarmed. they have a friend that is standing some distance away that you didnt notice. well, that friend IS armed and knows that the first guy is not. he has the right to shoot you because the life of his defenseless friend is in danger since you decided to pull the gun on him.

now youre dead and do you think that guy is going to get tried for murder? maybe, but he has a damn good defense and the other two guys are the only witnesses.

on of the most intelligent things i have ever read on scr.

cole
29th January 2011, 03:04 PM
if you shoot em, make sure you kill em so they can't sue you.

this is correct, assuming you have a reason for shooting them in the first place. if you cant prove that life was in danger, its murder.

but think about the situation before you pull a gun. you shouldnt pull a gun at all unless you intend to kill someone. say someone is on your property and you pull a gun on them and they are unarmed. they have a friend that is standing some distance away that you didnt notice. well, that friend IS armed and knows that the first guy is not. he has the right to shoot you because the life of his defenseless friend is in danger since you decided to pull the gun on him.

now youre dead and do you think that guy is going to get tried for murder? maybe, but he has a damn good defense and the other two guys are the only witnesses.

on of the most intelligent things i have ever read on scr.

:sillyme:

Kelvin
29th January 2011, 03:04 PM
not really. you kill everyone armed or unarmed. no witness, no problem. and make sure they are ****ing dead. that arizona betch is set for life.

swaggy853
29th January 2011, 03:22 PM
there better be a reason. if it was dark you could say there were verbal threats and you had to take them seriously. but if you shoot someone once, they fall down half dead its hard to shoot them again and claim self defense with all the forensics that are around today.

i learned something interesting in my glock armorers course...its impossible for a bullet to be traced to a standard glock barrel.

żumop apisdn
29th January 2011, 04:06 PM
its impossible for a bullet to be traced to a standard glock barrel.
Why and how's that work?

cody6.0
29th January 2011, 04:15 PM
Glock uses a hexagonal rifling versus button or groove rifling.

As for dealing with a trespasser a gun in a sholuder or hip holster would be plenty convincing for most to get the point.

zpeters
29th January 2011, 10:55 PM
if you shoot em, make sure you kill em so they can't sue you.

this is correct, assuming you have a reason for shooting them in the first place. if you cant prove that life was in danger, its murder.

but think about the situation before you pull a gun. you shouldnt pull a gun at all unless you intend to kill someone. say someone is on your property and you pull a gun on them and they are unarmed. they have a friend that is standing some distance away that you didnt notice. well, that friend IS armed and knows that the first guy is not. he has the right to shoot you because the life of his defenseless friend is in danger since you decided to pull the gun on him.

now youre dead and do you think that guy is going to get tried for murder? maybe, but he has a damn good defense and the other two guys are the only witnesses.

on of the most intelligent things i have ever read on scr.

:sillyme:

dont judge me *****

ShadowFox
30th January 2011, 11:35 AM
If you are looking to find ways to legally kill someone out of this thread, you will probably be using lethal force for the wrong reason.

swaggy853
30th January 2011, 01:31 PM
i think the original question was to use the threat of lethal force for intimidation purposes, which is not a good practice.

OMGLS1
30th January 2011, 06:36 PM
i think the original question was to use the threat of lethal force for intimidation purposes, which is not a good practice.

:lol: I don't ever intend to. The question has just come up several times with me and some friends, especially after the episode of Operation Repo where the farmer and his son bring out rifles to protect their vehicle from being taken.