WL: '87 S10

[Jesse]

Bought this a couple days ago, figured I'd make a work log for it. It's a 1987 S10 with a fresh 355 sbc. The motor has an Edelbrock 234 244 .488 .510 lift cam, Holley strip dominator intake, Holley 4160 carb, shorty headers, 2.5" duals dumped behind the cab with some Thrush Turbos. It's mated to a th350 w/ shift kit, trans cooler and Hurst Quarter Stick Shifter. It also has a Competition Engineering 4-Link with 3 way adjustable coilovers. The body is nearly perfect with only a nickel sized hole in the passenger side cab corner. I got a hell of a deal on it by buying it without the wheels he had on it.(it showed up on two steelies, one keystone classic, and some other random wheel):lol:

Here are some pics of when Whody Towing showed up with it:Thumb:
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Since then I have been getting the box ready for paint, and tonight I put on some big and littles mounted on some oldschool turbine wheels. It actually looks pretty good:woot:
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[HINZ28]

Damn that thing is gona be badass, cant wait to see it all cleaned up

[HINZ28]

You should swap dashes, that one is junk

and front bumpers

[sn95.0]

Looks sweet with the turbines

[Lt4TransAm]

What color are painting it? JD green?

[HINZ28]

yep hes painting the box green.......:rolleye:

[Jesse]

You should swap dashes, that one is junk

and front bumpers

I'm planning on swapping my rollpan, drop spindles, stereo, and grill/lights for sure. I don't know if I want to go to all of that work to put a cracked dash back into it.

[350-10]

Sweet looking truck!

[KyleJ]

Looks like all the hard **** is already done.

[Jesse]

Looks like all the hard **** is already done.

Yeah prettymuch. I was honestly just looking for a rust free roller, but I couldn't pass this up.

[Burntz]

I, for one, am quite jealous

[Hillbilly]

Throw that aircleaner away and get a 14"X3"

[Jesse]

Throw that aircleaner away and get a 14"X3"

It wont fit under the hood. The air cleaner on there currently barely clears.

[Lt4TransAm]

Buy a Harwood 4'' cowl hood

[sn95.0]

Throw that aircleaner away and get a 14"X3"

It wont fit under the hood. The air cleaner on there currently barely clears.

Cut a hole in it.

[cole]

i love those gauges...they remind me of an old friend's astro van :lol:

[Burntz]

Throw that aircleaner away and get a 14"X3"

It wont fit under the hood. The air cleaner on there currently barely clears.

Cut a hole in it.

Yess, shaker hood anyone?

[Hillbilly]

pry part of your rich condition.

[82355]

I love an air cleaner sticking through the hood. Get a velocity stack while you're at it!

[sn95.0]

I love an air cleaner sticking through the hood. Get a velocity stack while your at it!

This

[regal403]

While his what is at it?

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[Johnny]

so what all is needed to make it run?

[Jesse]

so what all is needed to make it run?

It runs just fine...it just has a brand new Carb on it that needs to be tuned. It starves out above 3k

[Yngvar]

I like great starting point

[Jesse]

Throw that aircleaner away and get a 14"X3"

It wont fit under the hood. The air cleaner on there currently barely clears.

Cut a hole in it.

Yess, shaker hood anyone?

I've thought about it....I just figured that I needed a mullet wig in order to do so lol

[Lt4TransAm]

Just man up and grow one

[Jesse]

A little update: we were trying to get this running decent and discovered #4 cylinder was weak. Took off the valve cover and there was a broken valve spring. So I took the head in and later found out the heads were assembled incorrectly. So then I had to take the other head in to get fixed. Basically the valves weren't seating and it was prettymuch drinking oil. I have the heads back and they are on the truck and it runs again. Just have to get the Carb dialed in and it will be good to go.

Oh ya and I just ordered a new x pipe with cutouts for it.

[Lt4TransAm]

Does it just have headers right now?

[Jesse]

Does it just have headers right now?
It has 2.5" duals back to some thrush turbos dumped behind the cab. WAY to quiet for my taste but the dumps will take care of that

[Jesse]

I'm in the process of putting this on
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I made a couple quick videos of the exhaust for shits and gigs.

before:
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now without the mufflers lol:
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here's a couple more pics of this pile
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[Lt4TransAm]

Does it run good now? Have you got on it?

[Jesse]

Haven't had time to mess with the carb yet, but I drove it around a little today. Its running REALLY REALLY lean and falls on its face unless you're at WOT. Did a couple sweet 90 ft one tires though

[96speedZ28]

Those wheels look sweet on that

[Jesse]

Got the xpipe and cutouts put on today, it sounds pretty good. The driveshaft loop screwed everything up because it is right where I wanted the x to go. Also, there was some weird coating on the exhaust pipe that made all of my welds look like dogshit. Doing exhaust on a lowered truck without a lift is a huge PITA!!!!!!!!!!!! That is all

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[350-10]

Looks good now make me one!

[Jesse]

Looks good now make me one!

Now that I've done mine, I honestly wouldn't take me long to do another

[regal403]

What color are you going to paint it? Love the wheels and stance.

[Jesse]

What color are you going to paint it? Love the wheels and stance.

Thanks man, eventually it will be all black. Hopefully get the box primered black sometime next week so its atleast all one color lol. I've been dailying it the last three days and its pretty fun to drive!

[Jesse]

Finally had some time today to get this thing all cleaned up. Took it into work and detailed the inside and washed it. Then I went back home and eraser wheeled all the glue from when I took the moldings off. Then I decided to see what the paint looked like after some wax. It was pretty faded and starting to blister on the hood. Ended up putting 3 coats of NXT on it and it turned out surprisingly good!


This was just after 1 coat
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I'm planning on painting the box and bumpers either tomorrow or Tuesday. I've also got some 5% tint coming for it. I'm also planning on putting the "sport" mirrors on it so I don't have these huge chrome ones. I can't decide what I want to do with the grill and headlight bezels. Either get all new chrome ones or paint it all black. idk.

[racer91]

looks better than the welds on the sunbird :rofl:

were the pipes galvanized steel?

[KyleJ]

With the 5% tint, I say black out the mirror bezels and grill.

Looks like it's coming along nicely, should be fun fun fun on the street!

[Jesse]

Ya that's kind of what I was thinking also. ****, if I don't like it then I will have to buy new ones anyway. And this thing is a blast to drive, except for the open diff. But burnouts through second gear are fun haha.

[96speedZ28]

Are you going to get the newer style grille for it?

[ali]

looks better than the welds on the sunbird :rofl:

were the pipes galvanized steel?

No one gives two shits about your sunbird

[Jesse]

Are you going to get the newer style grille for it?

I already tried swapping grills off the old 91. You have to swap the whole radiator support in order for the headlights to line up. Its really not worth it to me.

[96speedZ28]

Cut and fab

[Jesse]

Got the windows tinted and grill painted today. Still have to paint the front bumper. I decided to wait to paint the box until I get some body work done on it. Right now I'm ripping it down to bare metal above the body line because that it where it is mostly beat up. Hope to have it done pretty soon.

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[96speedZ28]

Lookin' good

[Jesse]

not much of an update, but I got the bumper painted and started doing some bodywork on the box tonight.

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[HINZ28]

lookin pretty good man

[Lt4TransAm]

The grille looks sick

[Jesse]

The grille looks sick

It would look even better with some powdercoated 10 spokes and 315's.......hint hint

[Lt4TransAm]

Yess yes it would.

[Jesse]

Well, I went on a little Jegs/Summit Shopping Spree about an hour ago....
-Auburn LSD :ohnoes:
-Rod ends and jam nuts to make an alternator bracket
-new tranny filter and pan gasket
-fuel cell gas cap (some trickster decided to steal mine)
-sent the starter off to get rebuilt



picked up a parts truck pretty cheap. All it needed was a clutch but I pulled a bunch of stuff I needed off it. The only thing I still need is the rear end. 2.5/5 Speed so if anyone needs anything let me know
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[Lt4TransAm]

Damn, that parts truck is clean. Put a clutch in it and drive it.

[350-10]

I might need some stuff...but I gotta look next time I'm home to see what i'm missing.

[Jesse]

Traction Mod!!! Hopefully I get it in sometime this weekend
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[93StockZ]

I want this truck! Looks BA man.

[Jesse]

Well I finally got the LSD in today. I didn't even have to shim it so I was pretty happy. Its like driving a comepletely different truck now, and I love it!



I couldn't resist, I had to do one
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I also acid washed the wheels, they look much better now.

Difference between front and back. VVVVVVVVV!
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[Jesse]

Since I'm such a broke ho, I haven't really got much accomplished on this money pit the last couple weeks. Right now I've got the body work on the box, tailgate, and rollpan 99% done and it should be painted either Tuesday or Wednesday. For the last 2 days I've been rolling around with no box on the truck, its pretty rediculous looking :lol: not to mention there is literally NO weight over the rear axle so it spins FOREVER haha. I also figured out why it ran like dogshit down low. I looked up the specs on my intake and it is rated at 4500-7600 rpm, which really does me no good when I shift at 5500. So, eventually I will be picking up an Eddy RPM Air Gap and mate it to a street avenger 670 holley.


For how beat up this thing was, I'm pretty happy with the results
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I snapped a few pics of my baller rear end setup
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No Traction Mod (Yes I know the fuel cell is ghetto)
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Oh and I also put on my valve covers and aircleaner that I bought a long time ago
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[KyleJ]

I love this project. Underhood looks tits!

[HINZ28]

im starting to get jelous now!

[Jesse]

I love this project. Underhood looks tits!

Ehh, it's still kind of a wiring mess, but its getting better.

[Jesse]

New intake is ordered and on its way.

[sn95.0]

Paint the damn box already.

[Jesse]

Paint the damn box already.

Done, knuckleheads



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My bodywork isn't quite as good as I thought, but its decent for my first time ever doing it.

[Cobra Commander]

This truck is bad ass.

[sn95.0]

Looks good.

[96speedZ28]

Decent

[sn95.0]

This thing is scary with out the box on.

[GC8U]

This truck is tits. I want a small block S10 sooo bad.

[Jesse]

This thing is scary with out the box on.
Hahaha...it makes it seem like it has 100 more HP. It maybe dips 500rpm in between 1-2 shift and just keeps spinning. I did some nasty burnouts with the box off.

[99dakRT]

i like it

[HINZ28]

Should look pretty good!

[Jesse]

Well folks, got her all back together about 2 hours ago and went and took some pics.Still need to get some new tail lights but it turned out alright. All shot from my droid so they are not good but you get the idea.


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AAANNNNDDDD.......My Favorite
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Also got this badboy in the mail today
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[sn95.0]

Another job well done at Gage County Customs.

[96speedZ28]

Looks good man :Thumb:

[82355]

Damn, the corn looks nice there.

Martin

[82355]

Damn, the corn looks nice there.

Martin

[GC8U]

Looks amazing man. I love it.

[Jesse]

Damn, the corn looks nice there.

Martin

Pioneer FTW!! We've also been getting some pretty decent rain lately.

[350-10]

lookin good

[82355]

We've been getting entirely too much rain here. Heat is what we have been lacking.

Martin

[93DEESEM]

looks like maybe you should have went in to auto body instead of electrical :lol:

[Hillbilly]

Keep the intake, change the gear, stall and cam to match! Build em light wind em tight!

[Jesse]

Got the new intake on Friday night. It seems to run better down low but I'm still not quite satisfied. I'm thinking it needs a stall pretty bad!

Old Intake
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New Intake
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[Jesse]

For those who didn't see my other thread, the 4 link took a **** on me. Both pieces of boxed tubing which are welded to the frame and hold the front rod ends cracked. I damn near lost the whole rear end going down the road.

Passenger Side
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Drivers Side
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Sooo, tonight I started tearing it all down and getting it ready to rebuild and reinforce. I'm trying to save all the brackets so I took my sweet time with a cutoff wheel to cut the old brackets off the boxed tubing. Right now I've got everything ground smooth and ready to go. I'm doing it all at our shop because that is where our big 240 VAC Lincoln welder is. I'm not taking a chance using a smaller welder. When I'm done, it will be pretty solid.
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[Jesse]

Got the brackets all welded up Wednesday Night. I'm going to work on it here in 15 minutes or so and hopefully finish it up.

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My welding skills aren't quite what they used to be:pissed:

[Jesse]

Well, I got the 4 link all finished up Saturday afternoon. It turned out pretty good. I don't think I will have a problem with it breaking this time.
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On a side note, I'm pretty sure I broke another valve spring. I can't seem to get it to run above 3k. I thought it just wasn't getting enough fuel after the intake swap, so I went up 2 sizes in jets and that didn't help one bit. So, I've been wanting a nice set of heads for a while so I think this is the perfect time to order some. Tomorrow I will be ordering some Brodix IK 180's with 1.470 dual springs that are good to .575 lift, ARP 134-3601 head bolts, fel-pro gaskets (1206,1003,1404), new plugs and Accel Superstock wires. I'm pretty excited. Hopefully I can get them in this weekend.

[sn95.0]

Hell ya.

[KyleJ]

350-10 says he'll still smoke that little cracker jack toy.

[Jesse]

350-10 says he'll still smoke that little cracker jack toy.

:orly:

[sn95.0]

Tell that crack head to bring it.

[Jesse]

I don't think it will be that fast, but it should be fun. Hopefully I can put down over 300whp. With 64cc chambers it should up my compression a little.

[HINZ28]

Very nice!

[350-10]

:nos:

[Hillbilly]

Well, I got the 4 link all finished up Saturday afternoon. It turned out pretty good. I don't think I will have a problem with it breaking this time.
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On a side note, I'm pretty sure I broke another valve spring. I can't seem to get it to run above 3k. I thought it just wasn't getting enough fuel after the intake swap, so I went up 2 sizes in jets and that didn't help one bit. So, I've been wanting a nice set of heads for a while so I think this is the perfect time to order some. Tomorrow I will be ordering some Brodix IK 180's with 1.470 dual springs that are good to .575 lift, ARP 134-3601 head bolts, fel-pro gaskets (1206,1003,1404), new plugs and Accel Superstock wires. I'm pretty excited. Hopefully I can get them in this weekend.

Those should be good heads. Going back to the single plane? What is your converter again? How long till you break the axle?

[Jesse]

I believe it still has a stock torque converter, that is what the previous owner said. A 2500-3000 stall will probably be my next mod, but I am kind of thinking about building a nice 700r4 so I can have OD. I am planning on keeping the dual plane for now. And I believe the rear end should be fine as long as I stay away from slicks.

[Hillbilly]

I just wondered. What if you went 2004r? Better first gear. I HATE that huge 1st-2nd gear 700 jump.

[Jesse]

I just wondered. What if you went 2004r? Better first gear. I HATE that huge 1st-2nd gear 700 jump.

Hrmmmm....I might have to look into that. What vehicles did 200r4's come in? I guess I have never even heard of them.

Oh, and I finally got my heads ordered today. My stupid debit card had a 1k limit on it so it took a while for my bank to change it:pissed:. So now they should be here by Wednesday or Thursday which gives me enough time to get them in for next weekend:woot:. I guess I really never thought about it until now, but I just spent more money on heads/intake alone than I did for the whole truck haha.

[01SOMZ28]

I guess I really never thought about it until now, but I just spent more money on heads/intake alone than I did for the whole truck haha.

Thats ok, its worth it.

[Jesse]

Got the motor all tore down and ready for the new heads tonight. They are coming Wednesday so I think I'm going to start on it right after work. I figured this would be the best time to clean up the wiring mess and paint the headers also.
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For some reason I felt like cleaning the tops of the pistons, idk why:lol:
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Pile 'O Parts
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I know convoluted tubing is a cheesy way of cleaning up the wiring, but what the hell, its not a show car
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The only thing that I'm worried about is setting the valve lash. I don't have a lot of experience with valvetrain and I don't want to screw it up. Is it the same for all small blocks? Or specific to my heads/cam setup? I might just have one of my dad's friends come over and help if its not easy enough to explain over the internet.

[GC8U]

I know when I did it on my old car (Not a small block, but I would assume it'd be similar), I just searched for the clearance that you check in between the valve stems and lifters, IIRC. Then you adjust it untiil you have the right clearance for each valve. You check it with a feeler gauge. There should be a DIY somewhere on an S10 forum.

[Hillbilly]

I know when I did it on my old car (Not a small block, but I would assume it'd be similar), I just searched for the clearance that you check in between the valve stems and lifters, IIRC. Then you adjust it untiil you have the right clearance for each valve. You check it with a feeler gauge. There should be a DIY somewhere on an S10 forum.

If it was a mech that would be right but its a hyd. I do the Exhaust Opening Intake Closing method on both. Meaning if the exhaust is opening you adjust the intake and vise versa. I roll the push rod between my fingers until I can just feel a slight drag on the push rod and usually go back and forth to be sure. Then I tighten the nut a 1/4 turn. This usually helps prevent valve float for a bit. On one dirt car I built I actually lash the hyd with a .003 feeler gauge to prevent lifter pump up on the required weak springs. Its easy. Pm me and I will give you my number if you need help.

[Jesse]

Live update Haha. Damn these things are sexy! :woot:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/37c48725.jpg

[Lt4TransAm]

:eek:

[Jesse]

got the heads done.:woot:

Pics of install....
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Heads are on
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Valvetrain done
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Intake, carb, headers, and plugs in
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I painted my headers with some $10 a can VHT header paint. They looked awesome for the first 10 minutes they were on the truck. Now they are white:mad:.
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Next to dad's 82 K10 350/4speed
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Runs pretty hard when it gets enough gas. The timing is still a little off and I need to throw this carburetor in the trash. I'm either getting a 750 demon, 750 4150 Holley, or a 670 street avenger but I can't decide yet. We'll see how good my paycheck is this week:lol:.

[96speedZ28]

:Thumb:

[Lt4TransAm]

Get the demon. I had a 750 Demon on my iroc and it woke it up alot

[Burntz]

<3 this truck

[HINZ28]

Im jealous, lets start getting a motor ready for mine.........im gona find a motor a GCC is gona help me!

[Jesse]

Get the demon. I had a 750 Demon on my iroc and it woke it up alot
I'm probably going to get the Speed Demon model. I'd order it now but I don't want to be a broke hoe for the rest of the week.

<3 this truck
Thanks man:)

Im jealous, lets start getting a motor ready for mine.........im gona find a motor a GCC is gona help me!
I'm down!!!

[Hillbilly]

I would just order a 4779 but whatever. Prosystem 4150 would be my real first choice.

[Jesse]

Took a trip up to Speedway today to get my new carb. I picked up a Speed Demon 750 cfm vacuum secondary electric choke, 1" phenolic carb spacer, and chrome dual feed fuel lines.

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It finally, finally, finally runs decent. This thing is a top end monster, but a complete pile of dogshit from a dig.

[Boostedbuford]

Saw it at the Kearney Cruise, looked good.:)

[sn95.0]

Saw it at the Kearney Cruise, looked good.:)

It wasn't at kearney cruise.

[350-10]

Saw it at the Kearney Cruise, looked good.:)

It wasn't at kearney cruise.

haha fail, there was a blue regular cab shortbox with a cowl at Kearney that was clean as ****.

[Boostedbuford]

Saw it at the Kearney Cruise, looked good.:)

It wasn't at kearney cruise.

haha fail, there was a blue regular cab shortbox with a cowl at Kearney that was clean as ****.

I'm sure that's the one I was thinking of super clean, I was drunk at like 4pm, so ****ing dehydrated and It was so bright out I my face was sore from squinting.

[Burntz]

Needs more braided lines ;)

Good **** tho! Me likey!

[GC8U]

I know when I did it on my old car (Not a small block, but I would assume it'd be similar), I just searched for the clearance that you check in between the valve stems and lifters, IIRC. Then you adjust it untiil you have the right clearance for each valve. You check it with a feeler gauge. There should be a DIY somewhere on an S10 forum.

If it was a mech that would be right but its a hyd. I do the Exhaust Opening Intake Closing method on both. Meaning if the exhaust is opening you adjust the intake and vise versa. I roll the push rod between my fingers until I can just feel a slight drag on the push rod and usually go back and forth to be sure. Then I tighten the nut a 1/4 turn. This usually helps prevent valve float for a bit. On one dirt car I built I actually lash the hyd with a .003 feeler gauge to prevent lifter pump up on the required weak springs. Its easy. Pm me and I will give you my number if you need help.

Yeah, didn't think about that. ha

I love this truck soooo much.

[Jesse]

Needs more braided lines ;)

Good **** tho! Me likey!
It will get there, I promise. I'm more concerned with getting it running good right now.

[Hillbilly]

I know everyone thinks I am a prick, which I am, but strighten out why you did what you did. First a open spacer on a dual plane makes it loose torque and gain horsepower but thats what you had with the single plane. Second That aircleaner is far to short. You need a 14 by 3 at least to get the amount of air into that engine you could use. Pitch the spacer and get a nice 2" drop from speedway and run a real aircleaner. Do I have to come over and help you? Forget the braded line it costs more and isn't any better than push loc.

[Jesse]

I know everyone thinks I am a prick, which I am, but strighten out why you did what you did. First a open spacer on a dual plane makes it loose torque and gain horsepower but thats what you had with the single plane. Second That aircleaner is far to short. You need a 14 by 3 at least to get the amount of air into that engine you could use. Pitch the spacer and get a nice 2" drop from speedway and run a real aircleaner. Do I have to come over and help you? Forget the braded line it costs more and isn't any better than push loc.

Ha, its funny that you say that because I already took the spacer off. The aircleaner that is on there is a 14 x 3. Once I get a cowl hood I will put a bigger filter in it. I just don't have the hood clearance right now.

[Burntz]

Ya but braided lines look amazing in an engine bay.

[Hillbilly]

The 14x3 will be fine. It just makes me wonder. It pry will be fine now. When are we putting in that 2500 stall?

[Jesse]

The 14x3 will be fine. It just makes me wonder. It pry will be fine now. When are we putting in that 2500 stall?

I'm going to wait until we get a lift at the shop. That will make it sooo much easier. So, hopefully after harvest.

[sn95.0]

The 14x3 will be fine. It just makes me wonder. It pry will be fine now. When are we putting in that 2500 stall?

I'm going to wait until we get a lift at the shop. That will make it sooo much easier. So, hopefully after harvest.

Still thinking of doing a 700R4? You know that overdrive would be nice driving from Cortland to Lincoln everyday.

[ADV1]

No Hood > *

[Jesse]

The 14x3 will be fine. It just makes me wonder. It pry will be fine now. When are we putting in that 2500 stall?

I'm going to wait until we get a lift at the shop. That will make it sooo much easier. So, hopefully after harvest.

Still thinking of doing a 700R4? You know that overdrive would be nice driving from Cortland to Lincoln everyday.

It's a definite possibility. I still can't decide what I want to do for a trans. The TH350 that is in it is fine, but I'm getting about 8mpg and revving it to 3k going 65 down the highway with 3.42 gears. I think I went through 35 gallons of 91 this weekend.:rofl:

[Hillbilly]

Its has dished pistons, what compression does it have? I would say you could run 89 if you didn't drive like a complete idiot (I have a hard time with that too). Still 200 has less of a 1 2 jump and they came in lots of stuff like montes and things. I would find a cheap driver and worry about converters and rearends.

[Jesse]

Its has dished pistons, what compression does it have? I would say you could run 89 if you didn't drive like a complete idiot (I have a hard time with that too). Still 200 has less of a 1 2 jump and they came in lots of stuff like montes and things. I would find a cheap driver and worry about converters and rearends.

I have no clue what compression it has, I didn't build the bottom end. I'm assuming 9.5:1 or something like that. Hell, I don't even know how to find out.:lol:

[Hillbilly]

Run a compression check with a gauge if its under 180-190 its pump gas time. Do you ever hear a rattle when lugging. Do I have to show you everything? 67cc heads? I will guess the rest.

[Jesse]

Hahahaha, yea I'm a noob. btw they are 64cc heads

[Hillbilly]

this is my guess but at the most 9 to 1.
8.876

89 is plenty. Look at your plugs for pepper after a week (little black spots on your plugs).

[Jesse]

89 is plenty. Look at your plugs for pepper after a week (little black spots on your plugs).

I normally try to run 91 just to be safe, but sometimes I have to run 89 because that is all the fine town of Cortland has to offer. I will check the plugs tomorrow.

[Hillbilly]

we ran 89 all year on a restricted factory stock engine (balls ****ing out) other than vapor lock when it was hotter than 2 cats ****ing in a wool sox it never, ever peppered a plug. I would tell you with alum heads to stop worrying and run whats cheap.

[Hillbilly]

Well? Updates?

Are you from cortland? Do you know Roger Olson?

[Jesse]

Well? Updates?

Are you from cortland? Do you know Roger Olson?

Haven't really done anything to it besides a new March alternator bracket because I was throwing the belt off at high RPM's with my home-made one. I ran a tank of cheap gas through it this weekend. I don't like it. Going back to 91. Half the time I can't even get it started, and it likes to die at low rpms when going around corners. It could just be Cortland's shitty gas, they are notorious for having water seep into the underground tanks.
I've lived in Cortland for my whole life, minus a year or so after highschool when I moved to Lincoln with a couple buddies. I got in trouble, lost my license, and had to move home:lol:. And yes, I know Roger. My dad has painted numerous tractors for him. He's a little goofy.

[sn95.0]

Well? Updates?

Are you from cortland? Do you know Roger Olson?

Haven't really done anything to it besides a new March alternator bracket because I was throwing the belt off at high RPM's with my home-made one. I ran a tank of cheap gas through it this weekend. I don't like it. Going back to 91. Half the time I can't even get it started, and it likes to die at low rpms when going around corners. It could just be Cortland's shitty gas, they are notorious for having water seep into the underground tanks.
I've lived in Cortland for my whole life, minus a year or so after highschool when I moved to Lincoln with a couple buddies. I got in trouble, lost my license, and had to move home:lol:. And yes, I know Roger. My dad has painted numerous tractors for him. He's a little goofy.

Roger is a goofy guy. His wheelie car is badass.

[Jesse]

Well? Updates?

Are you from cortland? Do you know Roger Olson?

Haven't really done anything to it besides a new March alternator bracket because I was throwing the belt off at high RPM's with my home-made one. I ran a tank of cheap gas through it this weekend. I don't like it. Going back to 91. Half the time I can't even get it started, and it likes to die at low rpms when going around corners. It could just be Cortland's shitty gas, they are notorious for having water seep into the underground tanks.
I've lived in Cortland for my whole life, minus a year or so after highschool when I moved to Lincoln with a couple buddies. I got in trouble, lost my license, and had to move home:lol:. And yes, I know Roger. My dad has painted numerous tractors for him. He's a little goofy.

Roger is a goofy guy. His wheelie car is badass.

Ahh **** I forgot about that:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: "The Leapin' Lena"

[MulletRide]

I saw the S10 saturday...sorry I was drunk.

[Jesse]

I saw the S10 saturday...sorry I was drunk.

Ya sorry I would have stayed and chatted a little more but I was in a hurry. Plus the s10 was really pissing me off so I took it home. Nice to meet you though!

[Hillbilly]

When its hotter than 4 mother ****ers you can't run e10 in some vehicles. Try it this fall, it should be better.

I agree Roger is a little goofy. My grandpa and his dad were best friends. They lived 3 miles from my house and used to take me fishing when I was like 8 they were 18. He had the first vehicle I ever heard (or paid attention to) with glass packs. Since he had a twin instead of getting 2 cars there dad went to the ford dealer and told them to order a new truck. I think it was a 85-6 F150 4x4 302 4 speed and they ordered it with a am radio so they could put in a pioneer and it had box speaker behind the seat. Pretty cool when your listening to RATT and rattling pipes at age 8. When they went on dates one of them would drive a Packard they got running in H.S. shop class. If you think he is goofy you should meet Ron he is tighter than bark on a tree.

[Jesse]

Blew it up, tearing the motor and trans out tonight....FML

[Lt4TransAm]

Are you serious?

[Jesse]

Yes, its backfiring out the Carb and blows more smoke than a snoop dogg concert. We'll see how bad it is when I tear it all apart. Time to go get a case of beer and get to work.

[Lt4TransAm]

Damn:(

[Hillbilly]

Time to get serious

[Jesse]

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/09c28201.jpg
Motor and trans are almost out. Someone help me pick out a stall. I know nothing about them. Somewhere around the 3k range.

[Hillbilly]

Cam?

[LastPewterZ]

4k stall or you're just another pussy with an S10

[Hillbilly]

Lets twin turbo it and leave it stock stall.

[C.J.]

So what let go?

[350-10]

So what let go?

His hopes and dreams....

[Hillbilly]

Its will to live

[Jesse]

4k stall or you're just another pussy with an S10
These motors aren't built to rev to 6500 like LS1's. I don't even like revving it past 5k. A 4k stall would be pointless.

So what let go?

The rings are fried and there is a possibility that the cam went flat. That would explain the backfiring out the carb. I haven't had the ambition to work on it this week so the motor isn't even out yet.

[Hillbilly]

That motor with the right parts (nothing special) will spin 7200 all day long, mods turn that engine 8900. My bet is it is just the cam and if there is a ring problem its cause the cam ate the pistons. Start looking for a 87 block for a factory roller cam set up. Are you going to try this time or are you happy with weaksuck?

[Jesse]

I know you are going to be disappointed, but I'm saving up for a nice daily so I'm not going crazy with this rebuild. I was happy with the power it made before. With a stall it should be even more fun.
If the block is screwed up, then yes I will look into a roller setup. If not, I will just throw in another hydraulic cam.

[Jesse]

Finally got some work done on the S10 today. Motor and trans are out and separated. Hopefully I can get it all torn down tomorrow so I can get some parts ordered.

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Here's my list so far...
-Comp Cams Hardened Pushrods
-Summit 1.6 Roller Rockers
-Summit Double Roller Timing Chain
-Lunati Voodoo 233/241 .504/.525 Cam w/ lifters
-Redneck Performance 3k stall
-Accel cap and rotor
plus gaskets, rings, maybe bearings, and I'm sure there will be other stuff. I'm also going to paint the block, powerwash everything, and clean up some wiring.

[nebdrummer]

damn, that blows. any word on what went wrong for sure?

stay away from the 700's if your going to have power, or if you want to spend 2k+ for one to last. i have about 420ish hp thats been infront of TCI's streetfighter for only about a year and a half and 4k miles and its done dealing.

[Jesse]

damn, that blows. any word on what went wrong for sure?

stay away from the 700's if your going to have power, or if you want to spend 2k+ for one to last. i have about 420ish hp thats been infront of TCI's streetfighter for only about a year and a half and 4k miles and its done dealing.

I will find out tomorrow after work. I'm hoping its nothing major, but its getting new rings and a cam for sure. I decided to stick with the th-350. The only reason I was considering a 700-r4 was because of gas mileage. Now that I'm putting a stall in, it probably won't see quite as much daily driving anymore so I'm not too worried about it.
That sucks your trans is smoked, I thought TCI made some pretty good stuff.

[nebdrummer]

yep, i just got a th400 built thats goin in when i do my 4 link/9", so that with 4.10's should be just as shitty on mileage. but hey, well see. im getting 15 now.

how big of tire do you have in back?

drivability with that stall will be fine. just keep a good cooler on it.

[Jesse]

Just some 275/60/15 bfg radial t/a's. I plan on going bigger because I'm sure I will have traction issues after the stall. But after some sticky tires, the 10 bolt will be a ticking time bomb. Ugh, its a never ending cycle with this thing.

[nebdrummer]

yup, your right, the rear will be the next to go. is that the small 7.5 or the 8.5? i have an lpw cover for a 8.5 for sale. hasnt been used, just out of the box to gawk at.

[Hillbilly]

I would just go 1.5 rockers. 1.6 just a way to get more of what you have. Most of the time they make the same power and 1.5s are easier on cams and valve springs.

[Jesse]

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thats not good
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I figured it was a 4 bolt main, but now I know for sure
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Pistons still look pretty new.
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Got quite a bit accomplished tonight. Everything is out except the crank and rods/pistons. I'm guessing the retard that built this motor either put the rings in wrong, or went out and beat the **** out of it without breaking it in. You can still see the hone marks in the cylinder walls, and all the bearings look good. I'm going to pull the pistons tomorrow and then start ordering parts. Can't freaking wait to get it back on the road.

[nebdrummer]

good to see it wasnt anything too serious.

[Hillbilly]

the pistons are ****. I always beat the **** outta stuff early. Break it in like your going to use it. Whats the cam look like?

[Jesse]

Well, I finally figured out why this thing burned so much oil. 6 of the 8 piston rings were lined up like this. A couple of them were lined up right on top of eachother.:mad: No wonder I was getting so much blowby.
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Anyways, the whole motor is torn down and now I'm ready to order new stuff. The cam didn't look that bad, but I'm going to get a new one just to be safe.

[Hillbilly]

FORGED PISTONS!

[Jesse]

Well, everything is ordered except for the stall. I'm going to have to wait until next paycheck because my right index finger got a little out of control adding items to my cart. Hopefully this is the last time I have to put money into this P.O.S.!!!!

Here's my list, hopefully I didn't forget anything
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back to being broke:cry::cry::cry:

[96speedZ28]

:woot:

[Jesse]

Got her all put back together tonight :woot:. Yesterday at about 3pm it was still a bare block. I left the shop shortly before midnight. Then came back at about 3pm today. Everything seemed to go pretty well.

Here comes a **** load of pics....

Painted the block and pan black

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Crank is in, along with the new main bearings
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Pistons are going in, new rod bearings and moly rings.
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High volume oil pump
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Cam is all lubed and ready to go in
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Oh hey!
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Double roller timing chain done, new timing cover
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Heads on, new 1.5 RR's and hardened pushrods going in
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Harmonic balancer, crank pulley, intake manifold and valve covers in
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Still got some of the accessories to put on, and I have to order a couple of little things still. I'm hoping to have the stall ordered on Friday and have it 100% back together in 2-3 weeks.

[Lt4TransAm]

Looking good

[cole]

Looking good

[KyleJ]

Looks great man! Can't wait to see it back out!

[Jesse]

Looks great man! Can't wait to see it back out!

Me too, Im really anxious to hear this new cam with the dumps open.

[C.J.]

Should chop pretty good, that is some nice duration/lift.

[Hillbilly]

& the lack of compression

[Jesse]

Should chop pretty good, that is some nice duration/lift.

Yes, the new one is 233/241 .504/.525 110lsa, which is just slightly shorter duration but a little more lift than the old one.
& the lack of compression

Ha, it should be TONS better now. I wish I would have done a compression check before I tore it apart. With the rings lined up the way they were, it was probably leaking down like a s.o.b.

[Hillbilly]

I meant actual compression not pumping compression.

[350-10]

When your truck is back together you can come work on mine since I lack the motivation.

[Jesse]

FINALLY ordered a stall today. For some reason it takes them 10 days to build it, then another 4 days to ship it. So, if everything goes as planned, it should be back together in 3 weeks! :woot::woot::woot:

[Jesse]

Ugh, I really wanted to get the motor in tonight buuuuut I didn't realize the mounting flange on this stall was 1/4" thick so normal converter bolts are too short. Hopefully I can pick some up tomorrow somewhere.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101028_190837.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101028_192647.jpg

So that's pretty much all the progress I got done tonight :mad:

[C.J.]

So you have short TC bolts but bolted the bellhousing up anyways?

[Jesse]

So you have short TC bolts but bolted the bellhousing up anyways?

Its easier to mate the tranny to the motor with the converter already in the trans like in the first pic. Then you don't have to wrestle with the tranny to get the splines lined up and the slots on the converter lined up with the input shaft. All you have to do is turn the motor over to get to all the converter bolts. I could be wrong, but it seemed like the most viable option to me.

[C.J.]

Ah makes sense.

[Devilstang93]

So you have short TC bolts but bolted the bellhousing up anyways?

Its easier to mate the tranny to the motor with the converter already in the trans like in the first pic. Then you don't have to wrestle with the tranny to get the splines lined up and the slots on the converter lined up with the input shaft. All you have to do is turn the motor over to get to all the converter bolts. I could be wrong, but it seemed like the most viable option to me.

That is the corect way sir. That way you can make sure that it is fully engaged in the pump.

[Jesse]

Well, she finally runs. I had a ***** of a time getting it timed for some reason, and went through a couple starters that didn't fit. I had it running for about 10 minutes tonight but proceeded to melt my battery cable on the header so I didn't get an idle clip yet.
Here's some crappy cell phone pics...

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101029_195706.jpg
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http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101106_192722.jpg

[96speedZ28]

Decent

[350-10]

Bring it to work monday and give me a ride.

[toom1h]

Is the lighting in that place as shitty as it seems?

[Jesse]

Bring it to work monday and give me a ride.
I'll try.
Is the lighting in that place as shitty as it seems?

Yes.

[Jesse]

Just ordered some wheel tubs since I can't fit 325/50/15's. Time for wheelies....

[Lt4TransAm]

Your gonna need a rearend and some more hp to do wheelies

[KyleJ]

Newton has a rear end he's not doing a damn thing with.

[Jesse]

Your gonna need a rearend and some more hp to do wheelies
It was a joke. I don't make near enough power.

Newton has a rear end he's not doing a damn thing with.

I know, I've tried talking him out if it. I will probably end up explorer 8.8 swapping it sometime this winter.

[350-10]

Nutter has a dsm he's not doing a damn thing with.

[F***rice]

ever think about the 8.8 ford rear diff?

[sn95.0]

ever think about the 8.8 ford rear diff?

Read his last post.

[F***rice]

ha my bad missed that, what are you going to do about the the driveshaft?

[nebdrummer]

make one.

[C.J.]

2" square tubing, F balanced driveshafts.

[pokaspeed]

ha my bad missed that, what are you going to do about the the driveshaft?

I typed s10 8.8 into google and the first link that came up answered your question. Not only that but it included a napa part number for a u joint that will work. You need to use your ****ing brain kid.

[Jesse]

Got my wheel tubs in the mail today. I got them all welded up too. I have the day off work tomorrow so hopefully I can get them trimmed down and welded in.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101130_150622.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101130_172511.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101130_180939.jpg
These are much too wide. I am going to trim them down to 13"
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101130_181029.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101130_201857.jpg
:rofl: will this make me KOTS?
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101130_203142.jpg

[KyleJ]

Nutter has a dsm he's not doing a damn thing with.

Like I said, if my daddy owned a Mitsubishi dealership my **** would run too!

[swaggy853]

Nutter has a dsm he's not doing a damn thing with.

Like I said, if my daddy owned a Mitsubishi dealership my **** would run too!

YES!

[350-10]

Nutter has a dsm he's not doing a damn thing with.

Like I said, if my daddy owned a Mitsubishi dealership my **** would run too!

Cool story bro

[F***rice]

nice rust, 350-10, but i have more :rofl:

[350-10]

nice rust, 350-10, but i have more :rofl:

That was before I restored my truck.

[F***rice]

ya someday i will restore the body on mine but im enjoying the worry free aspect right now, especially with winter around the block

[350-10]

bump for this
http://lincoln.craigslist.org/pts/2100099765.html

[sn95.0]

bump for this
http://lincoln.craigslist.org/pts/2100099765.html

^This is in the back of my truck now. I will sell it for $150.

[DSMMIKE]

Nutter has a dsm he's not doing a damn thing with.

Like I said, if my daddy owned a Mitsubishi dealership my **** would run too!
you mean if you had motivation.

[Jesse]

bump for this
http://lincoln.craigslist.org/pts/2100099765.html

Yep, I picked that up last night. Pretty good deal.

bump for this
http://lincoln.craigslist.org/pts/2100099765.html

^This is in the back of my truck now. I will sell it for $150.

Lol

[350-10]

Nutter has a dsm he's not doing a damn thing with.

Like I said, if my daddy owned a Mitsubishi dealership my **** would run too!
you mean if you had motivation.

[GC8U]

Decent.

[Jesse]

Picture bump
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101230_165432.jpg

I also picked up an explorer 8.8 rearend with 31 spline axels, 3.73 gears, and disc brakes for $125 off Craigslist a while back. Now I just have to blow up this 10 bolt so I have motivation to put it in.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm93/99eldoradoetc/IMG_20101209_162903.jpg

I put on some nicer tail lights yesterday since mine were junk. I also shot a little idle clip. Its now idling at around 800 rpm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W44xE-nvBMo

[350-10]

Ricer.

[Hillbilly]

Since I heard it was a little down on powa I looked and it is time for a victor intake. Remember there is no such thing as too big a cam just not enough motor. Just a straight performer air gap or not is going to be a choke about 5000 or so. Time for a RPM or better yet a Victor jr.

[sn95.0]

The HP was still rising all the way to red line, never dropped.

[Hillbilly]

This is America, so we speak American. Not sure what that is ^

[sn95.0]

Edited. Stupid phone. You made it sound like his power should be falling off at 5k but it was still making power at redline.

[Hillbilly]

Well what was his red line? Newty tooty fresh and fruity made it sound like the cam was too big.

[sn95.0]

That is what Jesse said also, it was just weird that the power never dropped off.

[Jesse]

Since I heard it was a little down on powa I looked and it is time for a victor intake. Remember there is no such thing as too big a cam just not enough motor. Just a straight performer air gap or not is going to be a choke about 5000 or so. Time for a RPM or better yet a Victor jr.

It has a performer rpm air gap on it now. I was already planning on putting my old single plane back on. When I was back home this weekend and went to take it out of the box, I remembered it had a stripped carb stud, so I started looking at single planes in Jegs. I have it narrowed down to the Team G or The Victor Jr. What would be better? I think I'm done with this 9:1 compression and flat tapped cam nonsense also. What is the highest compression I can safely run on 91 octane?

The HP was still rising all the way to red line, never dropped.
Well, I misread the dyno graph. The torque is still rising all the way to redline, but the hp starts dropping off at around 4500. I shut down at 5500 all three runs. I discovered I had a bent axle on the dyno so it was vibrating like crazy.

[Hillbilly]

Why not just fix the threads? It is easy and mostly cheap. What demon does it have? How good are the springs on the heads? How big is the exhaust?

[Jesse]

Why not just fix the threads? It is easy and mostly cheap. What demon does it have? How good are the springs on the heads? How big is the exhaust?

Eh, I thought about it, just never did it. Its a Holley strip dominator which I figured was a little too big for my application judging by the RPM range (4500-7600.) The carb is a 750 speed demon, vac sec. The springs are 1.47 duals, good to .575 lift. It has shorty headers with 2.5" duals all the way back. I honestly think it is the compression that is killing me. I seem to have all the right parts to make 350+whp, except those shitty pistons. I am kicking myself in the head right now for not doing it when I had the motor all apart last fall.

[DSMMIKE]

Did you happen to race a black convertible fox body i think he said on 84th street.

[Hillbilly]

What spring is in the vac sec?

[Jesse]

Did you happen to race a black convertible fox body i think he said on 84th street.
No, wasn't me. It was probably that turd 305 s10 with the bravada grill that's always ricing up O street.
What spring is in the vac sec?
I honestly have no clue. It's straight out of the box. My AFR's were around 13.5 on the dyno.

[C.J.]

12:1

[nebdrummer]

so whats the issue? Are you bogging? get a spring kit for that vac secondary. I have the stiffest one (black) and i still have to stretch it out on occasion because it comes in a bit too soon. before you worry about your compression, get yoru carb tuned. jets/squirters/springs/carb cams/power valves

[sn95.0]

so whats the issue? Are you bogging? get a spring kit for that vac secondary. I have the stiffest one (black) and i still have to stretch it out on occasion because it comes in a bit too soon. before you worry about your compression, get yoru carb tuned. jets/squirters/springs/carb cams/power valves

The problem is it only put down 275 hp.

[swaggy853]

hjahahahahahahahhaa

[Hillbilly]

Change the spring to at least a plain. Posted via Mobile Device

[nebdrummer]

so whats the issue? Are you bogging? get a spring kit for that vac secondary. I have the stiffest one (black) and i still have to stretch it out on occasion because it comes in a bit too soon. before you worry about your compression, get yoru carb tuned. jets/squirters/springs/carb cams/power valves

The problem is it only put down 275 hp.

haha.. boy ooh boy. still i dont see lower compression being the cause of the low hp numbers.

[Hillbilly]

Compression moves the curve up or down but doesn't change the peak. Change the sec spring to AT LEAST a plain. It is air flow related, like a restriction or cam out of time. Start by opening the secondarys sooner since it is at such a low rpm. FYI this has nothing to do with a/f.

[Hillbilly]

You change that spring yet?

[Jesse]

You change that spring yet?

I just took it out, and unless BG doesn't mark their springs from the factory, it already has a plain in it. I just got a spring kit and I am changing it as we speak. What should I look for as far as driveability? Will I be able to feel a difference?


Edit: tension-wise the stock spring feels like a tall yellow, but is a little shorter.

[Hillbilly]

You would take it to 2500 in gear and smash the **** out the pedal. If it bogs the spring is too little, if not try a lighter one till it bogs. What does your BG sheet say about adjustment of the vs?

[Hillbilly]

page 11 or this manual
http://barrygrant.com/fromBarryGrant/Demon%20Instruction%20Manuals/Speed%20Demon%20Manual.pdf
Shows the chart that lists the plain spring as being standard. I would at least go to the tall yellow. The plain isn't all the way open till 8160 rpm.

[Jesse]

Nice, I will do some tuning after work. That should make a huge difference. Thanks Ebke.

[Jesse]

Went from tall yellow, to short yellow, to the white spring this afternoon and it never bogged. I ended up leaving the white spring in. I was doing second gear pulls because 1st spins so much. It feels a little better.

[Hillbilly]

You really need to tune this. Posted via Mobile Device

[Jesse]

I know, a proper tune would surely wake this motor up. I need to get the 8.8 rear in first. This 10 bolt has a bent axle and it vibrates like crazy on the dyno.

[nebdrummer]

updates??

[96speedZ28]

Runs 10s

[Jesse]

updates??

Runs 13's

[350-10]

V8 s10's are gay.