under the knife again(TURBO MUSTANG)

[anti venom]

2001 mustang GT

SHORTBLOCK:
-Teksid block (4bolt caps w/2 side bolts)
-forged crank
-Manley 18cc dished pistons(coated skirts)
-ModMax pro billet I-Beams w/arp2000 bolts(tested to 1500hp@9500rpm)
-ModMax stainless steel rings
-king race bearings(rod and mains)
-Arp main studs
-arp head studs
-MMR oil pump
-cobra windage tray

HEADS:
-02 Navigator 4v heads
----port match and message exhaust ports
----intake ports are liquid cooled by factory
-comp beehive springs
-steel retainers
-98 cobra intake cams
-03 04 cobra exhaust cams

INTAKE:UNDECIDED!!
i have a 99 cobra lower intake so i might make a custom top to look like a cobra R.
....................or make my own with my new tig welder.

TURBO:
Comp CT5-88mm triple ball bearing
---96mm high flow turbine wheel
---1.15 a/r exhaust housing

i have the heads,springs, and cams already. i have block ready. ARP stuff should be here friday along with the rotating assembly. i decide to hold off on the turbo till i get the engine back in the car to make sure it will fit on my turbo system.

i will post pics soon.

[anti venom]

THESE are ford cam specs for 4v's

Mach 1, 03/04 Cobra, Aviator, Marauder, Navigator
Intake: 184 deg @ .050/.397" lift (measured duration)
Exhaust: 196 deg @ .050/.397" lift114 LCs

96-98 Cobra
Intake: 202-204 deg @.050/ .397 lift
Exhaust: 196 deg @.050/.397 lift
114/114 LCs

99/01 Cobra
Intake: 200 deg @.050/.397 lift (measured duration)
Exhaust: 196 deg @.050/.397 lift
114 LCs

FR500 (M-6550-T46)
intake: 212 deg @.050 /.472 lift (measured duration)
exhaust: 208 deg @.050 /.472 lift (measured duration)
109 LCs

GT Cams: (actual as tested numbers, not Ford specs)
Intake: 189 @ .050"/.424 lift (measured duration)
Exhaust: 190 @ .050"/.448" lift (measured duration)

Cobra R specs:
Intake: .515'' lift 212 deg dur @.050
Exhaust: .468'' lift 212 deg dur @.050



REASON's for the cams.
--turbo cars need more intake duration than exhaust
--the lift wont over stress springs
--CHEAP!!!

[BOORAH]

Sounds dece.

[D1sclaimer]

Still wont beat stock C6 Z51 Vettes.

[anti venom]

Still wont beat stock C6 Z51 Vettes.

haha.

[Coupelx]

why not just run 96-98 cobra exhaust cams too?

[KyleJ]

Make it look like a V6.

[anti venom]

why not just run 96-98 cobra exhaust cams too?

well there the same from exhaust cam to exhaust cam. so it wouldnt matter. guy that bought boostang from kyle has a complete set he is sending me.

[anti venom]

Make it look like a V6.

well around here everyone knows the car. trust me. trying to be sneaky doesnt really work. hence the reason its in work logs. i dont care if people know what i have. if they can beat it. congrats.


i want to run 25+psi through it. let it rip. my 2v had 22psi and it luv'd it.

[sn95.0]

Can I ask why you went with a turbo 400 instead of a C4? Posted via Mobile Device

[Coupelx]

strength.

[C.J.]

Can I ask why you went with a turbo 400 instead of a C4? Posted via Mobile Device

with all the ford you need some quality GM pieces in there somewhere to keep her glued together.

[LastPewterZ]

Can I ask why you went with a turbo 400 instead of a C4? Posted via Mobile Device


with all the ford you need some quality GM pieces in there somewhere to keep her glued together.

QFT

[96speedZ28]

Has ford ever made a decent tranny?
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[toom1h]

I guess if you think the c4 is a garbage tranny then.... Yes..
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[350-10]

Has ford ever made a decent tranny?
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negative ghostrider

[anti venom]

well c4 have a hard time after 800hp. lentecs suck past 700hp(i dont care if its rated to 1500hp it dont last). ive seen many people switching from c4's and 4r70w's to either glides or th400's.

th400 is old technology that works. lots of solid parts out there. the one i have is rated to 1200-1300hp but they use the 20% rule.


guy that has the same spec tranny and converter pull'd a mid 900rwhp on a mustang dyno with 27psi on a twin turbo 4.6L DOHC.

[toom1h]

oh and mustang owners are faggets.
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[anti venom]

mmh:joe:


and what do you drive may i ask.

[Trick]

a mustang

[anti venom]

oic.

[jesseligon]

what are you trying to get for power.

[anti venom]

1300hp or more.

recieved today:
-full rotating assembly
-arp head and main studs
-99 cobra lower intake manifold(pry going to sell)
-cobra windage tray

-i got my heads and springs wednesday

sold my logan motorsports intake today(waiting on payment).once i get the money im getting the turbo paid for.

yet to order:
CT5-88mm turbo(i held off on it for a bit)
hp turbo shorty turbo headers

[350-10]

I remember my first turbo mustang.....

[anti venom]

intake manifold is going on old boostang.

[anti venom]

here is some bad mobile phone pics. i have some better ones of the heads and everything.

pic1: wrinkled black valve covers and timing cover(Ford gt coil covers)
pic2: pro Billet I-beam rod w/ manley 18cc dish piston
pic3: 99 cobra lower intake
pic4: 99 cobra lower intake(bottom)(i have to port to match navi heads)
pic5: navi heads

[Johnny]

very nice build, and yes, mustangs are gay.

[anti venom]

yeah its a pain. im new to actually building a 4v. i can do a 2v with my eyes closed.

[anti venom]

sold 99 cobra intake for more than i got it for. also bought a complete aviator intake manifold. also bought a msd digital window switch to control the runner motor. talked to tom at C&S and he thinks the intake would work and run like a MoFo and still be very streetable.

might need a bigger fuel system though. might just go till i max the 120lb injectors out.

[anti venom]

new fuel lab 1800hp fuel pump ordered

intake manifold i get friday

got back rotating assembly and its assemble time.

[anti venom]

engine is together/new timing system installed and timed/heads done/cams done

intake manifold is almost done. just want to have engine in car before i finish it so i can get measurements right.

putting engine back on kmember soon.

[BOORAH]

:lost:

[Cobra Commander]

Engines are a band-aid fix for walking.

[S3XY03GT]

engine is together/new timing system installed and timed/heads done/cams done

intake manifold is almost done. just want to have engine in car before i finish it so i can get measurements right.

putting engine back on kmember soon.

sicc

[cody6.0]

Engines are a band-aid fix for walking.

As is internet **** talking for those who are worthless in real life.

If you wanna play like you aren't whats making SCR like NESS quit posting bullshit everywhere.

[Trick]

:tissue:

[cody6.0]

:tissue:

Thank you.

[Hurrdurr]

REASON's for the cams.
--turbo cars need more intake duration than exhaust
--the lift wont over stress springs
--CHEAP!!!

Where did you hear that from? I ask because I know 2v's that have nitrous or f/i need more exhaust duration then intake.

True. How high are you going to be revving the motor?

Sounds like a fun build! I would love to do a build like this, need any help? lol

Who is tuning it when done?

Can't wait to see videos and hear this thing.

[anti venom]

REASON's for the cams.
--turbo cars need more intake duration than exhaust
--the lift wont over stress springs
--CHEAP!!!

Where did you hear that from? I ask because I know 2v's that have nitrous or f/i need more exhaust duration then intake.

True. How high are you going to be revving the motor?

Sounds like a fun build! I would love to do a build like this, need any help? lol

Who is tuning it when done?

Can't wait to see videos and hear this thing.

well ive talked to modularheadshop.com, cushman cams, mmr, and crower. if you look most supercharger cams/nitrous they are even or like you said they have more exhaust duration. see im not a 100% sure why....i ran my crower custom cams on my 2v turbo(switch to turbo)..i went through the calls trying to figure out if i need to change them....all the guys said that it actually was a decent cam for a turbo cuz they were same duration i think let me find the cam card.

well i would like to run it up to 7k........but idk depends what it looks like on the dyno. if it makes 900+whp at 6k im pry going to stay there.

ive gone through dynos around here........i like Tom at C&S dyno in omaha.......honest and knows his ****..does his best on the tune......car ran the best its ever ran and drivability is unmatched.

yeah vids are going to be up sometime.. my youtube is redstangerz......i have some vids on there... also guy that has some vids is 1lethal03...death by boost....bikes vid has me in it.....and then my account has vids of mine......

[anti venom]

Crower Cams & Equipment - Camshaft Specification Card (Printable)Crower
Camshaft Specification Card
Part Number/Work Order Number E-65327
Engine Application FORD 2V
Grind Number
ADVERTISED CAMSHAFT SPECIFICATIONS:
INTAKE:Duration: 272ºLift: .571Clearance Hot: .000
EXHAUST:Duration: 272ºLift: .571Clearance Hot: .000
The specifications listed above are based on a rockerarm ratio of
1.80 IN
1.80 EX

RECOMMENDED VALVE SPRING INFORMATION:
Part #Single Dual Triple
Approximate spring pressure:valve closed: LBS.
valve open: LBS.

The information below is for degreeing cam only. Correct only at .050"
tappet lift.

INTAKE

Opens: 4.0 BTDC
Closes: 44.0 ABDC


EXHAUST

Opens: 52.0 BBDC
Closes: -4.0 BTDC


LOBE SEPERATION

114º


Duration at .050"

Intake: 228
Exhaust: 228


LOBE LIFT

Intake: .317
Exhaust: .317



If using "Lobe Center" method of degreeing, cam should be installed on an
intake centerline of: 110º

NOTES:
B-1709 INTAKE
B-1709 EXHAUST
16" WHEEL
15" FOLLOWER
SB2 CYLINDER HEAD,STANDARD BLOCK
1.969 CAM JOURNALS
Cams damaged by excessive spring pressure, over shimming, valve train bind
or retainers contacting the guides are void from warranty. Refer to the
"Important Camshaft and Lift Information" booklet included with each new
Crower camshaft to avoid any break-in problems.







btw this is my old 4.6L sohc cam card.

[D1sclaimer]

well i would like to run it up to 7k........but idk depends what it looks like on the dyno. if it makes 900+whp at 6k im pry going to stay there.

9k

[Bryan]

19k **** it

[DarkSlide]

Spin that **** higher than 7k.

[DSMMIKE]

Engines are a band-aid fix for walking.

As is internet **** talking for those who are worthless in real life.

If you wanna play like you aren't whats making SCR like NESS quit posting bullshit everywhere.

**** you have no idea about anything **** 75% of the active board members have no clue about brooke in the golden days **** you guys dont even know why i spell his name with an e at the end yall need to stfu and go home.

sorry to ***** your build thread sounds like a very bad ass build keep up the god work

[DarkSlide]

I know about brooke...

[DSMMIKE]

I know about brooke...

and you dont fall into that 75%

[toom1h]

This one time I met Brooke... Then I woke up from my dream and my boxers were wet.

[Kelvin]

I KNO ABOUT BERK

[Debo]

:( i know brook..he touched my butt..but dunno why u spell with an E...can i be half nub?

whens this moostang gunna be done? sounds slow.

[Cobra Commander]

you guys dont even know why i spell his name with an e at the end yall need to stfu and go home.

Hahaha.

Sorry to **** up your thread, although this is just a band-aid fix for a real apology. I really like the engine specs.

[Hurrdurr]

well ive talked to modularheadshop.com, cushman cams, mmr, and crower. if you look most supercharger cams/nitrous they are even or like you said they have more exhaust duration. see im not a 100% sure why....i ran my crower custom cams on my 2v turbo(switch to turbo)..i went through the calls trying to figure out if i need to change them....all the guys said that it actually was a decent cam for a turbo cuz they were same duration i think let me find the cam card.

The reason the exhaust duration is longer on blower/nitrous/turbo cams is because with all the heat being created from the blower/nitrous/turbo needs to leave the cylinder as fast as possible so it won't melt the chambers.

I really hope you chose the right cams for your build. To me, they don't look the best but then again I'm sure you did your research and learned everything you could and why those cams are the best for your build.

And is this tuner in Omaha better than the guy here in Lincoln? (Dynosport) I called Dan before and he didn't sound to confident about properly tuning a 100 shot on my stang.

[Cobra Commander]

I called Dan before and he didn't sound to confident about properly tuning a 100 shot on my stang.

Hahahhahahaa. Ask NeverEnuff why that is........

[Hurrdurr]

Is that his s/n? I will PM him about that. Do u know why that Dan would say that? He must not be that great a tuner I take it.

[anti venom]

well ive talked to modularheadshop.com, cushman cams, mmr, and crower. if you look most supercharger cams/nitrous they are even or like you said they have more exhaust duration. see im not a 100% sure why....i ran my crower custom cams on my 2v turbo(switch to turbo)..i went through the calls trying to figure out if i need to change them....all the guys said that it actually was a decent cam for a turbo cuz they were same duration i think let me find the cam card.

The reason the exhaust duration is longer on blower/nitrous/turbo cams is because with all the heat being created from the blower/nitrous/turbo needs to leave the cylinder as fast as possible so it won't melt the chambers.

I really hope you chose the right cams for your build. To me, they don't look the best but then again I'm sure you did your research and learned everything you could and why those cams are the best for your build.

And is this tuner in Omaha better than the guy here in Lincoln? (Dynosport) I called Dan before and he didn't sound to confident about properly tuning a 100 shot on my stang.


well with the cams think about it. turbos you dont have the "heat" issue like nitrous and blowers...go google turbo cams for 4v's or 2v's. intake duration is higher than exhaust for example:

cms 4v stage 1 turbo cams:
440"/.440" lift, 232/228 .050" duration, 115LSA
cms 4v stage 2 turbo cams:
470"/.450" lift, 239/235 .050" duration, 116LSA
CMS 4v stage 3 turbo cams:
.470"/.450" lift, 244/240 .050" duration, 116LSA

look at turbo cams its different than s/c and nitrous cams.

these are 98 cobra cams which im using.....most people pull 1000-1200hp on stock 03 cobra heads(aftermarket springs) and stock cams.

Mach 1, 03/04 Cobra, Aviator, Marauder, Navigator
Intake: 184 deg @ .050/.397" lift (measured duration)Exhaust: 196 deg @ .050/.397" lift
114 LCs

96-98 Cobra
intake PN#s F6ZE-6A270-AB crosses to F6ZZ-6250-AA
F6ZE-6A271-AB crosses to F6ZZ-6250-BA

Intake: 202-204 deg @.050/ .397 lift
Exhaust: 196 deg @.050/.397 lift
114/114 LCs

99/01 Cobra
Intake: 200 deg @.050/.397 lift (measured duration)
Exhaust: 196 deg @.050/.397 lift
114 LCs

FR500 (M-6550-T46)
intake: 212 deg @.050 /.472 lift (measured duration)
exhaust: 208 deg @.050 /.472 lift (measured duration)
109 LCs

GT Cams: (actual as tested numbers, not Ford specs)
Intake: 189 @ .050"/.424 lift (measured duration)
Exhaust: 190 @ .050"/.448" lift (measured duration)

Cobra R specs:
Intake: .515'' lift 212 deg dur @.050
Exhaust: .468'' lift 212 deg dur @.050


yeah dan at dynosport is a tool and cheap. ive gone there 5times and not **** got done... Tom at C&S has a mustang dyno...which means its real world numbers and its a better overall tune. he does most gm stuff but he is getting a lot of mustangs in there. i only trust him.

[anti venom]

i got the 98 cobra cams from the guy that bought boostang......he traded me fuel rails and cams +800dollars for my logan intake manifold and matching rails.

sometime if i want "big turbo cams" i will get them but i want to see how much power i can get off these and mild intake port job(many cleaned them up) but HEAVY exhaust ported navi heads.

i pry will do that and maybe get a entire sullivan intake manifold assembly...next year....but im getting a house first.

[Cobra Commander]

Is that his s/n? I will PM him about that. Do u know why that Dan would say that? He must not be that great a tuner I take it.

Dan has done some great work with Modulars. I don't give a **** what anyone says. 99% of the time it is builder error. You can't tune out retardism. And that goes for any shop.

NeverEnuff has a GT with a laundry list of engines. Nitrous SOHC, cammed SOHC, Procharged SOHC, cammed Avaitor 32v, Procharged 32v x2, TT 32v, big bore N/A 32v, etc. He usually hops on SCR to talk **** if he is coming back to Nebraska anytime soon. He exploded his first SOHC on Dan's dyno after telling Dan to keep making pulls even though the car was seeing HUGE A/F spikes. It was funny. :lol: Did he ever blame Dan? **** no. Did he call me laughing when half of his shortblock was laid out on the floor? Yes! haha. It made cool torque numbers though!

[millertime]

Is that his s/n? I will PM him about that. Do u know why that Dan would say that? He must not be that great a tuner I take it.

Dan has done some great work with Modulars. I don't give a **** what anyone says. 99% of the time it is builder error. You can't tune out retardism. And that goes for any shop.

NeverEnuff has a GT with a laundry list of engines. Nitrous SOHC, cammed SOHC, Procharged SOHC, cammed Avaitor 32v, Procharged 32v x2, TT 32v, big bore N/A 32v, etc. He usually hops on SCR to talk **** if he is coming back to Nebraska anytime soon. He exploded his first SOHC on Dan's dyno after telling Dan to keep making pulls even though the car was seeing HUGE A/F spikes. It was funny. :lol: Did he ever blame Dan? **** no. Did he call me laughing when half of his shortblock was laid out on the floor? Yes! haha. It made cool torque numbers though!

more info?!

[Hurrdurr]

So is Dan a good tuner? It seems to me a that if a tuner says he might not be able to properly tune a 100 shot on a Mustang, doesn't sound like the best tuner. He did say he thought he would be able to but it seemed he thinks I would need some extra stuff to make it work. I have talked personally to other people that have had their Mustangs tuned by top rated tuners and they said any good tuner can tune a Mustang for nitrous and correct the a/f spike that comes with the initial hit of nitrous, which is why a tune is a good thing.

[Cobra Commander]

Are you keeping it a returnless style fuel system I take it?

There is always a way to get by, and the right way. Sometimes the right way isn't always the cheapest way.

[anti venom]

go to C&S and tell tom Brett with turbo mustang sent ya he will give you a deal.

well a/f ratio will change from a load base dyno(mustang dyno) vs a dynojet and also dynojet vs real world driving.

[anti venom]

example dan said one of my banks was running leaner than the other.....i degree'd my cams after each time i went. i didnt understand it cuz they were right on. i went to dan 5times with same engine with a kenne bell on it and nitrous. each time the same thing......after 3 late nights and week or two of my car down there. i told him to **** off and i loaded the car up....didnt take it off the trailer and went to Excessive autosports in souix falls and in 5 hours it was done............supposably the idiot didnt under stand that with MAC long tube headers the o2 sensor on one side is farther back so it takes longer for it to warm up...car ran like a mofo till i had a cam gear failure. then swap'd turbo and went back to excessive they did good job with it.....when i went automatic i went to tom and he made it run even harder with 10times the drivability.

tom is honest and unlike some tuners he doesnt give up. i know "the shop" is also good i guess. i havent gone to them there diablosport not SCT.


MUSTANG DYNO is all i will put my car on again.

[Cobra Commander]

If cars can run 11s, 10s, 9s, 8s, 7s, whatever while being tuned on a Dynojet, I really don't see any concerns with a bolt-on nitrous Mustang. People blow that **** out of proportion so much. MY CAR WASN'T LOADED-DYNO TUNED, ITS GONNA BLOW! ! !

[anti venom]

i ran returnless for awhile with the wet nitrous....ran the fuel seloniod off the scrader valve on passenger side rail. never had a problem. full bolt on/cam'd gt i had enough fuel.

[anti venom]

If cars can run 11s, 10s, 9s, 8s, 7s, whatever while being tuned on a Dynojet, I really don't see any concerns with a bolt-on nitrous Mustang. People blow that **** out of proportion so much. MY CAR WASN'T LOADED-DYNO TUNED, ITS GONNA BLOW! ! !

well though 10-7sec cars also "usually"run widebands and data log there a/f and tune at the track....they use the dyno to get it close then they mainly tune at the track...then go back to dyno see what it makes.

he pry will be fine at a dynojet...a/f ratio will change depending on how much load is on the car. you cant argue with that. if he is already going to spend the same amount of money why not get a better tune. thats all im saying. also pry be safer.


have you ever been on a mustang dyno?

[Cobra Commander]

How big of a shot were you running? What power were you making with cams? Crowers?

[Cobra Commander]

If cars can run 11s, 10s, 9s, 8s, 7s, whatever while being tuned on a Dynojet, I really don't see any concerns with a bolt-on nitrous Mustang. People blow that **** out of proportion so much. MY CAR WASN'T LOADED-DYNO TUNED, ITS GONNA BLOW! ! !

well though 10-7sec cars also "usually"run widebands and data log there a/f and tune at the track....they use the dyno to get it close then they mainly tune at the track...then go back to dyno see what it makes.

he pry will be fine at a dynojet...a/f ratio will change depending on how much load is on the car. you cant argue with that. if he is already going to spend the same amount of money why not get a better tune. thats all im saying. also pry be safer.


have you ever been on a mustang dyno?

I was just giving you ****. :lol:

It makes total sense for anybody to use what works best for them.

[anti venom]

How big of a shot were you running? What power were you making with cams? Crowers?

only 75shot. crower stage 2 at the time when i wasnt built. na just under 300whp....idk what the shot was doing.

i had custom ones with the kenne bell at 18psi was running on and 75-100shot.


reason i like mustang dyno's is another thing saturation.....you could have enough fuel for a dynojet but run out on a mustang dyno....

[Hurrdurr]

Wow! 2 totally different opinions on 1 guy lol

I am running a returnless fuel system. With a 100 shot and 24# injectors I will have plenty enough fuel and a tuner shouldn't have a difficult time tuning my car. I will just have to call around before I get it tuned and see what the tuners say about correcting the spike.

[Cobra Commander]

crower stage 2 at the time when i wasnt built. na just under 300whp.....

Nice. My buddy made a little over 300whp on Stage 3s.

[bimmerbrian]

I've talk to Dan and i have talked to Tom. I have been to Dan's shop and I will be going to Tom this time around when i turbo. He knows his **** and is a great guy.

[cody6.0]

I've talk to Dan and i have talked to Tom. I have been to Dan's shop and I will be going to Tom this time around when i turbo. He knows his **** and is a great guy.

I can't say anything bad about Dan but when you walk into C&S and see GTO's, Z06's & F-Bodies and shelves full of LSx parts the choice is easy. Tom seems to have a been there done that story for any GM combo you can think of too.

[bimmerbrian]

When i went down to tune my car, Dan was just slow. My cam sensor through a code and he wouldn't tune it because of it. Even telling him to just go on with it, cause its not going to affect it unless i fix the issue.

So i said **** it, strap the car to the dyno and im gonna do a couple runs and see what the GMW puts down. He told me its stupid to do it and it will blow up. I did it anyways and went throught MANY bottles with no issues at all....

[Hurrdurr]

Well you can't blame Dan for not wanting to tune or let you do dyno runs if your car had a code whether or not the code was going to affect your car.

I plan on calling Dan again sometime soon and pick his brain and see how he feels about tuning my car for a 100 shot. Should be a piece of cake for him, if he doesn't sound confident, I'm not going with him.

[bimmerbrian]

If the code was THAT serious i would have never brought the car down to lincoln. Tom would have done it no problem....

Either way, i just going to stick with Tom. Anytime i have any issues or anything he will always be easy to get into contact with. You can't really do much with Dan until after 6 at night.

Tom will come to my place and help me out if i need it.

[Cobra Commander]

Well you can't blame Dan for not wanting to tune or let you do dyno runs if your car had a code whether or not the code was going to affect your car.

I plan on calling Dan again sometime soon and pick his brain and see how he feels about tuning my car for a 100 shot. Should be a piece of cake for him, if he doesn't sound confident, I'm not going with him.

You are right. There is nothing wrong with being safe.

If you call Dan, tell him that you really want to tune your car for nitrous just like "Matt Hayes" did on his dyno......... holy **** it would be funny.

[andrew69_04]

Dan is slow. we tuned my truck...had problems, then he never showed up the following morning to retune after i sat in his parking lot waiting for 3 hours.....he lost my business

[Hurrdurr]

Does Dan give a forum discount? I think he said he would charge me $300 for a nitrous and N/A tune, sound right?

[anti venom]

um go to tom or at least talk to him and you will understand.


dan never shows up to open his place up till 2pm or 3.

[Johnny]

^thats cause he has another job

[Cobra Commander]

^thats cause he has another job

[anti venom]

he was going to school when i was there.

[NeverEnuff]

The reason for my problems. Not enough fuel, and stock injectors trying to spray a 100 shot with a NX plate kit.

Others with other nitrous kits haven't had problems. NXs 2v plate system hits, and hits hard. That motor lived for a while on 18+:1 AFR on the kit till 4-5k...

Dan is a good tuner and did all he could to help the spike. I did mods to help as well..but some times there are physical limitations...period. He was adding more fuel, but the injectors were maxed. I was making 370+rwhp on a 100 shot with stock injectors and just a focus pump. Thats it. Focus pumps are barely good for 400rwhp on boosted motors, and 19lb injectors aren't worth much past 300rwhp anyway, and thats with upped fuel pressure making them 'bigger'.

Basically I was emptying my fuel rail at the #1 cyl where my nitous take off was, starving that cyl for fuel...leaning it way out...and guess what, that was the cyl to go. oh well...live and learn.

another thing I didn't do that I should have. Installed a FP sensor to cut the nitous if the pressure dropped. If I did that, my motor would have been fine...but I didn't like the idea of nitrous on off on off on off on, till the pressure stabalized...but after a bunch of research...that was better than what happened to my car. lol.

oh well...it was a good time...and lesson learned.

If I had to do it again. I would get the plate kit...a GT pump, some fuel rails to hold some extra fuel to help with the pressure drop, and maybe a BAP. The BAP I would wire into the kit as well so when the nitrous 'hits', the BAP flips on to spike the fuel 50% at the time of the hit to help with fuel problems. Hell with a BAP you probably don't need rails, injectors or a pump. BAPs are great and work well...and are far from a BAND AID as some would say. They serve the purpose they are supposed to...and do it well...

[D1sclaimer]

The reason for my problems. Not enough fuel, and stock injectors trying to spray a 100 shot with a NX plate kit.


Your wet kit's flaw was that your injectors were too small?

Can you explain this.

[Hurrdurr]

The reason for my problems. Not enough fuel, and stock injectors trying to spray a 100 shot with a NX plate kit.


Your wet kit's flaw was that your injectors were too small?

Can you explain this.

+1

[NeverEnuff]

The reason for my problems. Not enough fuel, and stock injectors trying to spray a 100 shot with a NX plate kit.


Your wet kit's flaw was that your injectors were too small?

Can you explain this.

Thats how he was tyring to add fuel to help with the spike because the fuel system (pump and rails) couldn't keep up.

he was band aiding...;)

I told him too...I didn't want to buy injectors..more pump than I already did, rails, a fuel resivour...I said just add the extra fuel in the injectors at the hit to help...he tried....they were maxxed and it still didn't help. he told me that there was nothing else he could do and we should stop. I told him to carry on...not his fault at all. I asked him to bump the FP high as **** to help...but by the time I was ready to find other alternatives, I blew it up. lol.


betteR?

[D1sclaimer]

Okay, that makes more sense.

It still spikes if you add fuel pressure when the nitrous activates. My dry kit does a little bit. Its a NOS 5115 kit exactly like the 5.0s use.

So a lean spike trying to band-aid it with more fp made it a bigger lean spike essentially. Poor band-aid attempt.

[anti venom]

engine is on kmember uploading pic now.

[DarkSlide]

How do you afford this car? aka where do you work?

[anti venom]

ive worked for family business since i was 13....ive been full time for 3years i think(i went to college) and lately ive been putting in 60-65hour work weeks.


back in the day i took out a 11k loan for a built 2v w/kenne bell....sold that went turbo 2v.....sold that and went to turbo 4v...

i sold my 2v long block for 4500.
intake for 800
turbo 1200

so i had 6500 to build a new engine and turbo. then **** pops up and money gets less and less if you know what i mean.

new turbo=2100
teksid=200
heads and springs=700
intake=200
cams=free
arp ****=465
rotating assembly=1900
block prep and checked=free
rotating assembly balanced=175
all new gaskets=250
covers=100

[anti venom]

then add new tune pry is going to be 400-500 bucks.

[DarkSlide]

god damn that is an expensive turbo lol

comp tbb right? i just wanna do a holset build.

[anti venom]

yeah i have a dealer account with turbochargers.com so 2k is better then spending retail

[anti venom]

its was either a comp ct5-88mm TBB or borg warner Comp 83r(i think thats what its called)

supposably the turbo spools 1k sooner than other ball bearings.

[Hurrdurr]

Thats how he was tyring to add fuel to help with the spike because the fuel system (pump and rails) couldn't keep up.

he was band aiding...;)

I told him too...I didn't want to buy injectors..more pump than I already did, rails, a fuel resivour...I said just add the extra fuel in the injectors at the hit to help...he tried....they were maxxed and it still didn't help. he told me that there was nothing else he could do and we should stop. I told him to carry on...not his fault at all. I asked him to bump the FP high as **** to help...but by the time I was ready to find other alternatives, I blew it up. lol.


Run a 75-80 shot, 91 octane and don't mess with the factory spark. No need for a tune and you will be fine. I talk to a tuner up in Michigan that is well known for tuning Mustangs. He said a tuner that can't tune a 100 shot on a Mustang does not know what they are doing. He said with a typical 100 shot wet kit he likes to pull timing 2-4 degrees and run 93 octane. It was amazing listening to this guy talk and listen to how much knowledge he had. After talking to him I will NOT be taking my car to Dan for tuning.

His name is Lidio Lacobelli from Alternative Auto. He knows his stuff.

Sorry to hijack thread OP.

[D1sclaimer]

Why not just tune it yourself you pussy. Nitrous is easy to tune off of your NA tune which isn't too hard to do.

[Hurrdurr]

Why not just tune it yourself you pussy. Nitrous is easy to tune off of your NA tune which isn't too hard to do.

Lol...if nitrous was easy to tune Dan would know how to. I don't know much about tuning and currently have the stock 87 tune but will be getting a 91 performance tune come spring time.

Also I don't know if you can pull timing for a 100 shot with just a SCT handheld tuner.

[DarkSlide]

Why not just tune it yourself you pussy. Nitrous is easy to tune off of your NA tune which isn't too hard to do.

Lol...if nitrous was easy to tune Dan would know how to. I don't know much about tuning and currently have the stock 87 tune but will be getting a 91 performance tune come spring time.

Also I don't know if you can pull timing for a 100 shot with just a SCT handheld tuner.

You were trying to tell NeverEnuff about making a mustang fast... :rofl:

[Hurrdurr]

You were trying to tell NeverEnuff about making a mustang fast... :rofl:

Lol well it did sound like that. I was more just telling about what I heard from Lidio (tuner from MI) about tuning for a 100 shot. I always thought it was strange that Dan couldn't tune a Mustang for a 100 shot and since he can't the next best thing is running a 75 shot with 91 octane and factory global spark.

I have nothing against Dan (and I didn't mean to sound like I was telling NeverEnuff how to make his Mustang fast) but he just didn't sound like a confident tuner and after talking to a very, very knowledgable and experienced tuner who says a 100 shot is a cake walk to tune which tells me Dan isn't as good as he could be.

[D1sclaimer]

Why not just tune it yourself you pussy. Nitrous is easy to tune off of your NA tune which isn't too hard to do.

Lol...if nitrous was easy to tune Dan would know how to. I don't know much about tuning and currently have the stock 87 tune but will be getting a 91 performance tune come spring time.


I'm beginning to think that the reason that he wont tune you, is because of the cocker sucker owner of the car.

Tune it yourself. Buy real engine management and not some pussy handheld tuner bullshit.

[4sfed]

If cars can run 11s, 10s, 9s, 8s, 7s, whatever while being tuned on a Dynojet, I really don't see any concerns with a bolt-on nitrous Mustang. People blow that **** out of proportion so much. MY CAR WASN'T LOADED-DYNO TUNED, ITS GONNA BLOW! ! !

Forgive me, I haven't read this entire thread but I saw this and hope you are joking. Seriously!!!

[Hurrdurr]

I'm beginning to think that the reason that he wont tune you, is because of the cocker sucker owner of the car.

Tune it yourself. Buy real engine management and not some pussy handheld tuner bullshit.

I never said he wouldn't tune me but when I had talked to him on the phone he didn't sound too confident in tuning my car for a 100 shot. He told me that I would need to upgrade my fuel system to be able to tune it which I thought was wrong because I was using a wet kit. I personally won't take my car to him to have it tuned but I have heard other people not having problems with him. Maybe he just isn't good with nitrous, idk.

I'm not going to tune the car myself. If I can't find a competent tuner than I will be stuck with a 75 shot and bolt ons. Or I will take my car to Michigan and have him tune it :D

[BOORAH]

I'm beginning to think that the reason that he wont tune you, is because of the cocker sucker owner of the car.

Tune it yourself. Buy real engine management and not some pussy handheld tuner bullshit.

I never said he wouldn't tune me but when I had talked to him on the phone he didn't sound too confident in tuning my car for a 100 shot. He told me that I would need to upgrade my fuel system to be able to tune it which I thought was wrong because I was using a wet kit. I personally won't take my car to him to have it tuned but I have heard other people not having problems with him. Maybe he just isn't good with nitrous, idk.

I'm not going to tune the car myself. If I can't find a competent tuner than I will be stuck with a 75 shot and bolt ons. Or I will take my car to Michigan and have him tune it :D

Just because you're using a wet kit doesn't mean you won't need a better fuel pump. Its still going to have to have the extra fuel at the rail for the kit to use....And that fuel doesn't get there on hopes and dreams.


If a neon (my srt) can be tuned for a 75 shot with a couple pulls on the street, Im positive Dan can do a gaystang.

[Hurrdurr]

^^^ I'm sure Dan could tune my car for a 75 shot but I was told by a very good, well known and reputable tuner that I will be fine with a 75 shot, running 91 octane and factory global spark.

When I called Dan and asked him about a 100 shot he didn't sound confident. When I talked to Lidio in MI he sounded very confident and said he doesn't let people leave his shop with anything less than a 100 shot. The guy in this thread said Dan couldn't tune his Mustang with a 100 shot even with an upgraded fuel pump.

I personally don't want to take my car to a shop with a tuner that isn't confident with his tuning ability. That's the bottom line. I want people who are confident with what they are doing when I have them work on my car.

[DarkSlide]

I agree with the s2k owner.

The more posts I read from you the more of a pompous asshole you sound like to be honest. Do you think that Dan would rather you play it safe and upgrade your fuel system than potentially risk you going lean and blowing the car?

And you could prolly just tune it on the street. It's not like you are doing some super crazy build.

[BOORAH]

^^^ I'm sure Dan could tune my car for a 75 shot but I was told by a very good, well known and reputable tuner that I will be fine with a 75 shot, running 91 octane and factory global spark.

When I called Dan and asked him about a 100 shot he didn't sound confident. When I talked to Lidio in MI he sounded very confident and said he doesn't let people leave his shop with anything less than a 100 shot. The guy in this thread said Dan couldn't tune his Mustang with a 100 shot even with an upgraded fuel pump.

I personally don't want to take my car to a shop with a tuner that isn't confident with his tuning ability. That's the bottom line. I want people who are confident with what they are doing when I have them work on my car.

Have fun wasting your money. Both The Shop and Dan can do just as good of a job for tuning for just a 100 shot.

[Hurrdurr]

Hey I don't want to sound like an asshole or that Dan or whoever in town here couldn't tune my car for a 100 shot because maybe they could. Like I said multiple times I just didn't think Dan sounded confident with tuning my car for a 100 shot. That's all.

[D1sclaimer]

Like I said multiple times, you should learn to tune your own car. Nitrous is easy as **** to tune.

[bimmerbrian]

Go to Tom at C&S?

[bimmerbrian]

Like I said multiple times, you should learn to tune your own car. Nitrous is easy as **** to tune.

Yea, especially for me. :) i just threw it on and ran it.

[Hurrdurr]

Like I said multiple times, you should learn to tune your own car. Nitrous is easy as **** to tune.

What software do you use to tune?

Go to Tom at C&S?

I will give him a call next week. Does he use SCT?

[D1sclaimer]

I use AEMPro.

Tom at C&S can tune SCT.

[anti venom]

not done but i wanted to mount everything up. making sure it fits..

im making a even flow cooling mod for back of the heads, have to finish the top of intake(needs to be in car) and then i have to put turbo on to make sure it fits.

[anti venom]

got cobra wiring harness and coils for 120ship'd

also got MMR front coil overs 175lb. buddy bought my old sport ones.

i have a buddy that might buy my HPM mega bites upper(off the car) and adjustable lowers w/poly bushings....might go with an entire Team Z rear suspension or Wolfe racecraft.


also talked to tom at C&S about wiring in my new Fuel lab pump.......we can run it off the stock computer.. so computer can control duty cycle.

[cody6.0]

we can run it off the stock computer.. so computer can control duty cycle.

I feel sorry for your ECM.

[anti venom]

iwe can run it off the stock computer.. so computer can control duty cycle.

I feel sorry for your ECM.


well you must not know how it works or what i was talking about............


fuel pump has three inputs.......power........ground.........one that tells the pump what run(low speed and high speed).....

if you wire it straight to the power (its high speed all the time)........

if you wire it straight to the ground (its low speed)

if you wire it to a computer source that can send a 500-1500hz frequency(stock computer) the pump can be ran as a variable voltage pump.......so computer can control the duty cycle.




here ya go.
http://www.fuelab.com/images/stories/downloads/42402_instructions.pdf

i talked to tom about the variable voltage and he said it can be done with ease.

[sn95.0]

How much would you want for the upper and lower control arms? I really need a set but I'm sure you are going to want more than I want to spend but its worth a shot.

[anti venom]

o idk my buddy's got first dibs but i will keep you in mind also.

[anti venom]

finally turbo ship'd....tracking number says monday...


for all the little bitches that use pop cans to show the size of there turbos........im going to use a gallon of milk or 17'' rim. booya MTFs....haha.

[toom1h]

Haha nice man, I can't wait to see this run. I'm sure you said it somewhere, but you from here in Lincoln?

[anti venom]

na im originally from Pierce....but i have a place outside of norfolk now......i got a lot of buddys in omaha..so i pry be going to the 1/8mile there to get a hang of launching it.

.ups rescheduled it for tuesday now... son of a *****

[toom1h]

Nice I enjoy going to MAM so we will have to set something up.

I was born in Norfolk and I have family up there so I try to go up there quite often.

[anti venom]

turbo is freaking huge.....triple ball bearing is crazy takes nothing to spin it.


i will post pics up soon.

[cody6.0]

well you must not know how it works or what i was talking about............

fuel pump has three inputs.......power........ground.........one that tells the pump what run(low speed and high speed).....

if you wire it straight to the power (its high speed all the time)........

if you wire it straight to the ground (its low speed)

if you wire it to a computer source that can send a 500-1500hz frequency(stock computer) the pump can be ran as a variable voltage pump.......so computer can control the duty cycle.



I just meant that you have asked quite alot of it in the recent years.

[Cobra Commander]

not done but i wanted to mount everything up. making sure it fits..

im making a even flow cooling mod for back of the heads, have to finish the top of intake(needs to be in car) and then i have to put turbo on to make sure it fits.

Now that's a cool ****ing engine.

Edit: I was referring to the picture.

[anti venom]

pic from my phone

[millertime]

oh my god...
how about from the top?

a guy on 7club actually has a picture of his turbo next to his head, about the same size, still don't think it's as big as that monster.

[anti venom]

haha yeah its big.... here is a pic of the top.......5in inlet 3.5in out 96mm high flow turbine wheel........exhaust housing is T4 1.15a/r w/ 4in outlet...



i ordered a 4point roll bar from Maximum motorsports......got 4point cuz the 6point wouldnt fit with my aftermarket seats(to wide):joe:...it should be good for test and tunes though...if not i will add my own custom ones.

[cody6.0]

i ordered a 4point roll bar from Maximum motorsports......got 4point cuz the 6point wouldnt fit with my aftermarket seats(to wide):joe:...it should be good for test and tunes though...if not i will add my own custom ones.

Pretty sure you'll be ok as long as you don't go to any NHRA or IHRA mandated tracks.

[anti venom]

i ordered a 4point roll bar from Maximum motorsports......got 4point cuz the 6point wouldnt fit with my aftermarket seats(to wide):joe:...it should be good for test and tunes though...if not i will add my own custom ones.

Pretty sure you'll be ok as long as you don't go to any NHRA or IHRA mandated tracks.


well test & tunes...or open to public nights pry wont matter to much...even if, its not a big deal i will make my own door bars and make it a 6point....the main hoop is something i cant make since i dont have a bender etc.

[cody6.0]

since i dont have a bender etc.

Grow a pair there is a tree right out front that would work just fine.

[anti venom]

:bow1::bow1::bow1::bow1::bow1::bow1:

[cody6.0]

Your intake project looks good but have you thought about just turning it into an adapter for a 90* TB elbow?

[anti venom]

i have a 4in aluminum elbow that goes to the front. im not using the factory coolant tank so i have enough room for the 90....


btw intake is going up for sale........thinking of ordering entire sullivan intake system...i was going to wait till next year but hell i got a ton of money from bonuses and stock dividens.

mmr wants 2700 to make me one and logan motorsports wants 2400 for it.....yeah im just going to get a sullivan...looks professional....o and i got a hell of a discount im going to use.

[toom1h]

Mc****ing McMoneybags

God damn sir.

[anti venom]

haha yeah idk im still up in the air on the intake part but we shall see.

[anti venom]

intake,rails, and oval elbow purchased. be here friday.


i have aeromotive rails and adapter that goes from stock fuel line to rails for sale

aviator intake manifold is for sale

and

96-98 cobra accufab throttle body for sale..

[anti venom]

Dragon T/b BIG oval(biggest out there 100mm) w/o IAC purchased
170degree Cobra thermostat purchased

fuel tank is done..

still need...
coating.
heater wrap
20ft of 10an line
couple fittings
10micron filter(pre pump)

and then she is running.

[revvin7]

Damn that thing is going to be sick !!!! Looks good too !

[anti venom]

here is some pics of the intake.

[anti venom]

got cage in and mounted it fit perfectly......taken back out and im getting it painted.

[cody6.0]

here is some pics of the intake.

I know you loved your Logan but you should've been using that style of intake since build one.

[anti venom]

here is some pics of the intake.

I know you loved your Logan but you should've been using that style of intake since build one.

well edelbrock came out with one but it was gay......my logan looked sick and flow'd CRAZY....logan is the best for 4.6 SOHC's...and sullivan is pry the better intake for under 1300bucks. all the custom ones MMR wanted to do is 2500 or more.


here is pic of engine............

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5781/engine.png (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/engine.png/)

i have a new 4in aluminum elbow.

[cody6.0]

well edelbrock came out with one but it was gay......my logan looked sick and flow'd CRAZY....logan is the best for 4.6 SOHC's...and sullivan is pry the better intake for under 1300bucks. all the custom ones MMR wanted to do is 2500 or more.

The Logan was nice but was built for N/A engines.

[anti venom]

well edelbrock came out with one but it was gay......my logan looked sick and flow'd CRAZY....logan is the best for 4.6 SOHC's...and sullivan is pry the better intake for under 1300bucks. all the custom ones MMR wanted to do is 2500 or more.

The Logan was nice but was built for N/A engines.

if you think about it, it doesnt matter...its ment to be a all around intake...give a good low end and killer top end to 8,500rpm..everyone uses it in there high hp builds or the new edelbrock..only thing i didnt like about my logan was the tig welds that were under the intake...horrible...looked like chicken ****.

yeah this intake is a cast...but my old engine looked insane........this one will look clean but give some killer power.

[anti venom]

old
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4500/kif0855.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/kif0855.jpg/)



new
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5781/engine.png (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/engine.png/)

[anti venom]

coated parts should be here tomorrow...and ordered fuel line.........almost ready for the tune.:woot:

[GC8U]

Jesus ****.

[anti venom]

also deleted the silicone tube 4.5in elbow....its aluminum now. i also got new coolant tank to fit it.

[anti venom]

pic of coated headers and turbo housing

[noslow5.0]

Looks awesome, but grassmaster will still get you. What are you running for fuel system components, ie. Are you doing a sump with an inline pump and regulator or what.

[anti venom]

yeah its sump'd....im using 1800hp Fuel Lab inline pump. Were going to try to have the computer run the duty cycle. then the regulator is mounted were the EGR valve is spose to be on the sullivan intake(on the back of the t/b to carb adapter). i have 10an line to the rails and 8an line return...for the sending unit i made this piece. i got all measurements of my Fore hat before i sold it.

[00GT]

hey i was wondering if you had any of your old intake manifolds laying around that you might be interested in getting rid of? I blew mine into about 1000 different pieces last friday night. Let me know thanks

[anti venom]

hey i was wondering if you had any of your old intake manifolds laying around that you might be interested in getting rid of? I blew mine into about 1000 different pieces last friday night. Let me know thanks

na i dont but if you go to modularfords.com you can pic one up cheap.. lots of 2v guys going with edelbrock's new intake and trickflow's.


if i were you id just go buy an edelbrock...then make a adapter yourself...go get a 1/4 aluminum and bolt up your plenum and t/b...cut hold out for plenum..drill and tap holes to mount plenum...then drill holes to go to the edelbrock carb plate/manifold.

[anti venom]

scheduled to get it tuned................this month.:woot: starting it up hopefully by this weekend to check things out....****er better run.

[noslow5.0]

Are tou gong back to Tom at C$S? I hope so, he seems to be one of the best around. And try to get some videos, and if you cant let me know i take a day off work to show up and get some for you.:Thumb:

[Cobra Commander]

Nice Sullivan.

[anti venom]

Are tou gong back to Tom at C$S? I hope so, he seems to be one of the best around. And try to get some videos, and if you cant let me know i take a day off work to show up and get some for you.:Thumb:

yea its tom..he has been seriously swamp'd. plus i dont like how ppl dont stop bug'n him when he tunes..i want him to focus..so we worked something out..he has my old vid still so yeah i will get vids.

[anti venom]

Nice Sullivan.

thanks....i tried to hide all the wiring to make it look clean.. im mounting turbo kit tonight. i did prefitment on the engine stand to make sure that swap'n 4v it didnt mess up fitment. i will get a pic up.

[Cobra Commander]

Did you already sell that Logan intake?

[noslow5.0]

Are tou gong back to Tom at C$S? I hope so, he seems to be one of the best around. And try to get some videos, and if you cant let me know i take a day off work to show up and get some for you.:Thumb:

yea its tom..he has been seriously swamp'd. plus i dont like how ppl dont stop bug'n him when he tunes..i want him to focus..so we worked something out..he has my old vid still so yeah i will get vids.
Awesome sounds good and im sure with a car like yours coming in he will have his kid there to video it. I know what you mean by him being swamped too, your out there for half and hour and he gets 4 phone call and 18 people stop in with questions. Im guilty of it for sure, but hey the man knows his ****.

[anti venom]

Did you already sell that Logan intake?

yeap...guy that bought boostang bought it...

[anti venom]

here is some quick pics...

[millertime]

no fan for that rad? or is it just not on?

[Thereal]

no fan for that rad? or is it just not on?

doesnt need one with the turbo that close lol

[anti venom]

:cry: finding a place for the thermostat unit is a beotchno fan for that rad? or is it just not on?


no its not on yet..thats one of the final pieces you put in.

[nebdrummer]

sweet. not long to go.

who did your coating by chance?

[anti venom]

moore powercoatings of waverly nebraska.....just make sure you clean/blow out parts before assembly. wasnt to bad.

[Stein]

hey i was wondering if you had any of your old intake manifolds laying around that you might be interested in getting rid of? I blew mine into about 1000 different pieces last friday night. Let me know thanks

Hey, is the 4.6 mani in a 97 T bird the same as a Mustang? If so, you can come out and pull it-no charge. Car is going to the crusher anyway.

[anti venom]

well i didnt get to the dyno sunday but i let tom get some other projects done..

only thing i got left is to finish were i put the resiviour tank....and put a filter on it....im kinda thinking to put a filter that fits between the fender and turbo(keep it small to restrict a tad to keep it little richer till i take it off in serious race applications). idk yet.

[Cobra Commander]

Looks like a bunch of cheap shitty parts.

*/Cody voice*

Pretty bad ass dude. It is an awesome build.

[miller456]

looks slow run it off a cliff

[grandprix_kid]

well i didnt get to the dyno sunday but i let tom get some other projects done..

only thing i got left is to finish were i put the resiviour tank....and put a filter on it....im kinda thinking to put a filter that fits between the fender and turbo(keep it small to restrict a tad to keep it little richer till i take it off in serious race applications). idk yet.

im not a ford fan but if this setup doesnt give you a hard on, you're un-american!!

[anti venom]

looks slow run it off a cliff

haha im going to **** punch you...

[blazin]

What's the hp and boost goal here? We broke toms dyno belt hahah.

[anti venom]

my old 4.6L sohc did 547rwhp at 22psi(tom said we couldve made pry 80hp more)



i want 900whp and 30psi through my high stall'd th400....

[anti venom]

tom is guessing mid to high 700's....

guy i know did 93xrwhp on a mustang dyno with 27psi with same th400 setup and everything.

billet 4.6L teksid shortblock
stock 03 04 cobra heads(with springs)
ford GT cams
with twins

[BOORAH]

I really want to see this now.

[anti venom]

we had all his sand bags in the trunk last time and i had traction issues every now and again even with slicks on.

its was awesome when it transitions into boost came in hard and fast.

[blazin]

Tom said your running the fuel labs 1500 hp pump? If so how loud is it? Also what fuel you burning for 900 hp goal?

[anti venom]

Tom said your running the fuel labs 1500 hp pump? If so how loud is it? Also what fuel you burning for 900 hp goal?

its the fuel labs 1800hp pump..it cost 550 i think..i run e85 with 120lbs injectors..my old setup was triple 255's....when we tuned we didnt raise the fuel pressure just let injectors do the job. its loud..sounds like a jet.

[Maas]

Holy awesome.

[anti venom]

runs awesome......idles smooth ....nice start up tune. it runs better than the last engine so far. haha

dyno'ing next week right away.

[anti venom]

got it running

straight wastegate it produced 12-13psi.......and it put out mid to high 500whp....my 2v did 547rwhp and 509rwtq....and i went over that.

i got lots of numbers from 13-25psi but i will give main ones

at 20psi with 21.5 degrees of timing(rev'd to 6,500rpm)
695rwhp
583rwtq

at 22psi with 21.5 degrees of timing(rev'd to 6,500rpm)
728rwhp
610rwtq

at 25psi with 16degrees of timing(rev'd to 6,000rpm)
777rwhp
651rwtq

(on the main screen that does the weather correction it said 782rwhp and 682rwtq)

also you can see at were converter caught up at 5,900rpm dip'd down then took off fast.....rev limiter is set at 6,500rpm........but the power was still going up. tom is getting vids and pics up online soon....i will scan and post up dyno sheets. the comp turbo is awesome spooled like a mofo.

not bad for stock 98 cobra cams, port matched navi heads, and sullivan intake. the fuel lab 1800hp pump is still on low speed and injectors are at 75-80% duty....then the BA5000 is getting close to peg'in...if i go for more tom has a buddy that can recalibrate it for even more power.

tom and i drove it on 22psi............its scary..its way to much so im pry just going to run around on wastegate..

[anti venom]

got really late so we just stop'd there is more in it but in all reality 13psi is all i need to do anything. 17psi and up i have a hard time hooking 2nd gear with slicks and full drag suspension.

[Pelan]

Very nice Bret. :) Now waiting for cody to start knocking it.

[anti venom]

Very nice Bret. :) Now waiting for cody to start knocking it.

he didnt say anything bad when i told him earlier...he thought it was awesome also. specially for a combo thats never been done before.

[anti venom]

also i left it room to fully port heads and turbo cams..........but i wont need it.

[Pelan]

Going to the track any time soon?

[swaggy853]

soooo...dyno queen?

[Yngvar]

holy **** nice job man I like the build and way to go

[bimmerbrian]

Deff. good job on the numbers! I told Tom i wish i could have been there to see this car when he was texting me. Sounds like a badass car tho.

I want a ride :ohnoes:

[anti venom]

well if i wanted a dyno queen id own a manual..not a high stall'd th400 with a brake. i have to clean up wiring a bit and put a filter going in the fender. then i have couple little things to make it so i can get past tech. i will get to the track sometime not in big hurry.

[anti venom]

kewl thing is i put down higher numbers than the "house of boost" built twin gt35r 's 03 04 cobra(H/C/I) that was at the dyno day and he was running a manual.

[anti venom]

here is the

20psi and 22psi sheets

[anti venom]

25psi.....was only to 6300 i guess.

[GC8U]

Holy balls.

[Boostedbuford]

:shock: Holy **** I wanna ride sometime, and I though my pop's car that made 505whp at tom's was scary on the street, I couldnt imagine much more:nervous:

[Cobra Commander]

**** ya!

You should get some in car footage. Does it stay in upper boost throughout each gear?

[anti venom]

**** ya!

You should get some in car footage. Does it stay in upper boost throughout each gear?

yeah it goes up once......rpm doesnt drop when i shift. tom has some footage ive been waiting on. inside and out......tried using trans brake on one...haha didnt have a ground on good enough..****ing undercoating.

as you can see on the dyno sheets the torque converter catches up at 5900rpm...then takes off again. hp didnt stop haha.

we tried controlling the boost a little with the AMS-500 so it wasnt so violent.

[Devilstang93]

4 valve FTW. Awesome numbers.

[anti venom]

kinda waiting on driving it. parts for my turbo intake that will go into the fender should be here the 2nd thanks to the holiday. then i have want to get a/c redone(broke a pipe and it leaked out) i fix'd it all just need cleaned and recharged.. then im getting a 03 04 cobra crossover. then finish wiring on boost controller

[anti venom]

next year i pry put big turbo cams in it then spin it high....but it all depends.