OIL

[David]

What oil do you use?

Why do you use it?

Can I reuse my filter?

What filter do you use and why?

Are there different oils or brands for different motors???

[David]

please take this thread seriously. Generate some real automotive discussion and we can all learn something new.

[dunnster76]

Um ... I used Mobil 1 and a Wix filter, the reasons ... Mobil 1 because it's recommended for high end cars, so why not on mine. And for Wix, because Fram and in house cheap filters suck.

[Cobra Commander]

I've always used Motorcraft Synthetic Blend for all of my newer Fords (minus Cobra) with a Motorcraft filter. I was always told how well Motorcraft oil is, so I've just gotten into the habit of using it.

I only ran Mobil 1 synthetic in my Cobra with either a Motorcraft or Mobil 1 filter. I think Mobil 1 is some of the best stuff out there IMO.

[Paul_N]

use synthetic it's a black bottle i can't remember, and oem mit fitler, reason idk always told to use synthetic, filter because it's better to use oem with the 4g94's if not modded heavy

[roo]

I use super tech oil with a Mitsubishi filter in the Eclipse. Same with the Mullet except with a wix filter

I like to run AMS oil or Castrol syntec with a wix filter in the Neon and Aurora

[MadmaX]

Mobil 1 oil.
Wix or Higher-end Purolator oil filter.

Costs' me less than yer average joe pays jiffyscrew.

[ali]

Mobil 1 synthetic with a Mitsubishi filter

[BOWERS]

Mobil 1 w/ wix filter. I used it just about every car I've had.

And no I wouldn't reuse a oil filter. There cheap, just get a new one. Plus if your using a junk fram filters they tend to break up after a while then you have all of that nasty **** going through your motor that could eventually cause problems in the future.

[BOWERS]

Cool site I found that went through and tested a lot of the name brand filters. After reading through the test for awhile I think I'm going to try the Mobil 1 filters.

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

[BOWERS]

^^ opps I meant purolator!

[cole]

mobil 1 errything

[schovil69]

Valvoline oil and Fram filter for the schovil

The TL gets the dealer champagne douche

[dsmdarryl]

lucas 2 stroke oil in the dirt bike!

and well no filter of course!


the dsm will probably be filled up with mobil 1 and an evo 8 oil filter

[MadmaX]

^^ opps I meant purolator!

bmw oem is a purolator.

[LastPewterZ]

Castrol Syntec, Wix Filter. Who knows what it'll run next oil change. I've gone from Royal Purple to Mobil 1 now to Castrol. So far I liked Royal Purple the best by far, but ****'s way to expensive to change every 3,000 miles.(I don't trust it for 7 or w/e some people say)

[86Shelby]

I only use Wix filters on my stuff.

As for the oil I'm a fan of Rotella & Mobil 1.

[turbodaytona87]

Um ... I used Mobil 1 and a Wix filter, the reasons ... Mobil 1 because it's recommended for high end cars, so why not on mine. And for Wix, because Fram and in house cheap filters suck.

Same here, running 5w-30 though, and Wix filter because the tests have shown them to be one of the top oil filter brands.

[David]

Should one change the type of oil they use because of enviromental conditions?


If one is really hard on their car or truck should they use different oil over someone who just Daily Drives?

[MadmaX]

Should one change the type of oil they use because of enviromental conditions?




I use 0w-40 all year. Is that what you meant?

[roo]

Should one return the oil to the ground when they are done with it?

[MadmaX]

Lol. I've got an uncle that does that. He also leaves the filter right there in his yard where-ever it was he changed the oil. I don't think he owns a drain pan.

And he's on well water.

[C.J.]

Always used Mobil 1 in everything, bought my subaru and noticed that it used more oil than i thought it should. Did some searching on the subaru boards and everybody seems to hate mobil 1.

So i switched to Castrol and use almost no oil in 3,000 miles.

meh, its all preference anyways.

[96speedZ28]

I use Mobil 1 mostly because so many high end car companies come from the factory with it.

I use AC Delco oil filters because thats what the car came with from the factory.

[00dakotav8]

I use Mobil 1 5w-30 with a mopar filter.

[Thunder]

mobil 1 10-30w with ac delco

next change, im planning mobil 1 0w-40 and wix filter.

[Alley]

Whats oil?

[Js04sILVerBullet]

I use Mobil 1 in my 2V with a Motorcraft filter

I tried using a Fram toughguard filter but it would cause my car to knock on startup.switch back to Motorcraft and seemed to help

[Jasen]

Trailblazer: 5W30 Mobil 1 with a Delco filter
Silverado: 15W50 Mobil 1 with a Delco filter
SHO: 5W30 Mobil 1 with a Motorcraft filter
S-10: Royal Purple 10W40 with a Delco filter
Winnebago: 15W50 Mobil 1 with a Mopar filter
Mustang: I'll never tell......
I use synthetic oil in everything I own whether it's a beater or a hot rod. Working in the warranty claim business you begin to see a correlation between engine cleanliness and type of oil filters used.
Fram oil filters are the only brand of oil filter that will void a Cummins engine warranty.
My opinion on oil filters is they must be changed every oil change, unless you really don't give a damn, then don't bother changing the oil at all. OEM filters are manufactured to prevent warranty engine failure claims. With those manufacturing standards in mind, I stick with OEM filters. WIX, Fram, Micro Guard do not build cars nor do they have to suffer the consequences of substandard quality control other than to give you a new filter. Some Fords will actually explode certain after market oil filters. Fram oil filters will make a Ford mod engine knock because of the poor check valves in the filters. Occasionally I will have my oil changed @ Valvoline Instant Oil Change down on Old Cheney and one of my vehicles will have a Valvoline filter. Valvoline filters are manufactured by Champion Labs who manufacture many different OEM filters at different times. Other filters I would use: Purolator Pure One and Mobil 1.
I stopped using WIX filters when I had my Cummins. I used many different brands of oil filters on that truck (NEVER FRAM) and always ran Delvac 1 (synthetic diesel oil). Using a Fleetguard, Baldwin or Mopar filter it would take 7,000 miles for the oil to even noticably change color from what it was poured out of the bottle. I used a WIX once and the same oil was nearly black in 3,000 miles. I drove that truck like I stole it for 137,000 miles and never had any lubrication issues. The oil pan was removed @ 99,000 miles to repair a small oil seep and the internals were bright silver with no browning anywhere.
Oil and oil filter opinions are like what kind of tiolet paper you use. Everyone has reasons why they use on over another, just the reasons are very different for everyone.

[Jasen]

One other interesting point to consider....Fram makes Honda oil filters??? I don't get that at all.

[roo]

Super Tech > *

[DarkSlide]

Super Tech > *

QFT

That's what my beater 240 got, when it had oil. I think it had enough buildup in there to keep stuff lubricated without oil haha.

[BOWERS]

One other interesting point to consider....Fram makes Honda oil filters??? I don't get that at all.

Yep, and I've never ran a oem filter in mine except when it came from the dealership but I think that was before fram was making them. The only other filter I've ran in my honda was the Hamp filters.

I've also noticed some racers will put a clamp around there oil filters to increase the oil pressure, it keeps the filter housing from expanding. Weird but what ever you need to do for 5 more psi....

[C.J.]

ive never really understood why people did not change their oil filters anyways.

[Jasen]

I never understood why someone would buy a $40,000 vehicle and not change the oil at all. I remember an Expedition I got in one time while it was still under warranty in for a "died while driving" complaint. The truck had ~30k miles on it still had the factory gray oil filter on it. I couldn't budge the crank with a 3 ft cheater on a breaker bar...locked up like a rock. Then the customer was mad because we wouldn't warranty the engine....durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[SHIFTER]

MobilOne 5000 synthetic.... toyota filter. Every car ive owned has ran mobil and a factory filter.... they're always proven to be most reliable. If i were to use something else tho itd be a k&n or mobil oil filter.

[SHIFTER]

One other interesting point to consider....Fram makes Honda oil filters??? I don't get that at all.

Thats definately a big... DOH lol

[redsled]

I use Supertech filters and oil. I used Wix filters when I had the Sled. Very satisfied with both. My dad has used Frams for decades without any problems on oil change intervals that exceed most small animals' lifespans.

I don't really recommend doing that, I'm just proving a point.

[C.J.]

I never understood why someone would buy a $40,000 vehicle and not change the oil at all. I remember an Expedition I got in one time while it was still under warranty in for a "died while driving" complaint. The truck had ~30k miles on it still had the factory gray oil filter on it. I couldn't budge the crank with a 3 ft cheater on a breaker bar...locked up like a rock. Then the customer was mad because we wouldn't warranty the engine....durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

people like that dont realize oil is something that must be changed, i have family members like this. They just dont have a clue...."you mean you have todo more than put gas in it?"

or that there is even oil in the motor.

[Js04sILVerBullet]

I remember one time at "Saturn" there was a chick that brought in her Saturn L because the "low oil" light was on and turned out who ever changed her oil last forgot to put the valve cover cap back on and most of the oil over time came back out.

But when the mechanics told her that it was almost out of oil and was caught just in time and the engine could of locked up and cost her thousands of dollars to replace the engine she said ....."that sounds bad"

[David]

^^ funny but keep this thread on topic.

[82355]

Whatever is handy.

Martin

[91firebirdv6]

I was running Royal purple and I'm prob going to go with Mobil 1 since it's cheaper.

wix filters but going back to delco it looks like

[4 cam torino]

Lightning gets Mobil 1 with a filter in this order based on availability Motorcraft, Purolator (makes the FL-820S Motorcraft filter anyway), Wix used once because I walked into the place on teh corner from me only to find out they didn't have Motorcraft or Purolator), none of those available it's time to go to a different store.

Bronco II, Valvoline with same filter options.

Torino will be back to Mobil 1 with the mod motor but it burned way too much oil to use synthetic in the 289.

Reuse filter? **** NO! That's most of the reason for changing the oil, the filter has lost it's ability to do it's job.

[4 cam torino]

Oh, and if I have a downward hanging filter, i.e. the Lightning, Bronco II, Ranger, 289, etc. I ALWAYS fill the filter with oil before putting it on. Can't do that if there is some other filter orientation because the oil would just dump back out.

[GTPpower]

I use Castrol and a GM filter. I didn't use synthetic because my motor had too high of miles to start using it.

The best oil from what I hear is AMS oil and German Castrol. Not sure about the filter though.

This site will tell you anything you want to know about oil.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

[MadmaX]

When I worked at Saturn I remember the OEM filters being Fram.

[roo]

Fram filters are like 305's. Everyone hates them but no one knows exactly why.

[spoonraker]

I don't put oil in my car.

[4 cam torino]

I know exactly why I hate fram filters and 305's. Last I heard fram filters didn't use a silicone anti drain back valve but instead a shitty paper one that didn't really work. 305's suck because they have a tiny bore. Next question.

[82355]

Fram filters are like 305's. Everyone hates them but no one knows exactly why.

I could go on for a while about the 305 if you like.

Martin

[88alltrac]

Mobil 1 changed every 2k miles on the alltrac
w/ mostly toyota filters since ive owned it (about 15k miles)
under the valve cover and oil pan is clean for a 202k mile engine.
my bike got supertech and fram filter for its first time just because i planned on rechanging it soon.
might stick w/ dino oil due to oil leak
i havent really decided what to run in that yet.
Anyone have any suggestions for bike oil?

[blk97z28]

Mobile 1 5W-30 and ACDELCO oil filter, I use this b/c it works great, and I think it is really good so far.

[Z28]

I use Castrol and a GM filter. I didn't use synthetic because my motor had too high of miles to start using it.

The best oil from what I hear is AMS oil and German Castrol. Not sure about the filter though.

This site will tell you anything you want to know about oil.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

1. Royal Purple 2. AMS are what serious oil fanatics use. They are probably the best. Royal purple is proven to increase hp. About 5-7.

I use some kind of high mileage stuff. Maybe valvoline. Change it every 3k with an AC Delco filter.

[Bobby Light]

honda, cheapest oil and filter, usually costs about 8-9 dollars per change, it gets changed just about every 1.5 months (roughly 3000 miles)

mustang gets Mobil 1 full synthetic and a K&N filter, i talked with our oil lab guy at caterpillar, he has tested dozens of different filters, so far the K&N filter seems to be the best (not economical)and it traps the smallest particle size out of any tested.

[David]

Do you reuse the filter? because i thought those were reusable.

[c0z]

The cheapest oil, and cheapest filter that the marketers convince me isn't shitty. Also I hate fram and I don't know why.

[Bobby Light]

Do you reuse the filter? because i thought those were reusable.

no, you discard them, actually i dont know any filters off the shelf that you do reuse.

[Thunder]

The cheapest oil, and cheapest filter that the marketers convince me isn't shitty. Also I hate fram and I don't know why.

its probably cuz its orange.

[c0z]

orange is actually my favorite color :lol:

[C.J.]

Do you reuse the filter? because i thought those were reusable.

no, you discard them, actually i dont know any filters off the shelf that you do reuse.

reusing oil filters is possibly the most retarded thing ive ever heard.

[86Shelby]

I think it was the Philipps 66 on 120 & Pacific would reuse oil filters. Go into the back and where the filters weren't in boxes they were used, drained and ready to be put on customers cars. :lol:

I've been hearing some good things about an oil brand BradPenn. It's pretty much a racing oil with high amounts of anti-wear additives.

[82355]

Do you reuse the filter? because i thought those were reusable.

no, you discard them, actually i dont know any filters off the shelf that you do reuse.

reusing oil filters is possibly the most retarded thing ive ever heard.

Really??? I have worked on engines that cost more than the price of your Mitsubishi and your Camaro combined that had reusable oil filters. . . . . . . . .

Martin

[BOORAH]

Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic and either K&N filter or Wix.....In a neon.

[Bobby Light]

Do you reuse the filter? because i thought those were reusable.

no, you discard them, actually i dont know any filters off the shelf that you do reuse.

reusing oil filters is possibly the most retarded thing ive ever heard.

Really??? I have worked on engines that cost more than the price of your Mitsubishi and your Camaro combined that had reusable oil filters. . . . . . . . .

Martin

heh, i dont think he is talking about big iron martin...

[redsled]

K&N makes reuseable oil filters...

[Thunder]

They are expensive

[redsled]

Yeah. I'd never use one, personally. They supposedly are unsurpased, but ****. Do you really need it? I don't think so. Maybe for a really high end motor build, I could see it.

[HawkZ28]

It's NEVER too late to start on synthetic- it has superior lubricity properties over dino oil...if you have leaks, they'll just get worse, and if you have anything that was going to leak, it will for sure on synthetic...it just points out the repairs that need to be made.

83Z28- 3k changes....Ran Quaker Syn b/c I didn't know any better, and my dad was a quaker guy. K&N or Delco filters. Ran fram for a while, but stopped after hearing the 'little orange can of death' stories, and after my gf at the time bought one for her car and after torquing it down, the SOB sprayed oil all over the drive. Anyway, she lasted to 198k (bought her with 122k) and the inside was not so yummy looking.

96 Blazer- I run 5k changes becuase I drive mostly interstate, and 55k/yr......bought at 75k, today she will have 333,686 by the time I get home from the office. I have run Mobil 10/30 Syn with a Delco filter from day one. Put a new timing chain in for grins and giggles at 200k- inside looked like new. Replaced the oil pan gasket at 275k, looked brand new.

86Z28- 3 month oil changes- she's my 'Friday' car, so I go by time. Rotella diesel oil during cam break in and setting the rings. Since then, Mobil 10/30 dino at 50, 100, 500, 1000, and 3000 miles with a bottle of GM EOS (Engine Oil Suppliment). I also run a Delco filter, but buy the 'big one' that is meant for the 350 in a 4x4 chassis...more capacity and filter area. Next change she's going over to Mobil Syn becuase she'll be broken in enough for my tastes.

I add BG MOA since my GM EOS was disco'd....my buddy from Rotella's Bakery in Omaha is a big Poncho guy, and wrote a story for a Pontiac rag about ZDDP being removed from modern oil- (http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/tech/hppp_0606_understanding_motor_oil/index.html ) so I've started adding it to prevent piston skirt scuffing in Bessie's (the Blazer) golden years. I add MOA with EVERY oil change to the 86- it's a must with a flat tappet. According to one of the guys at Advance, BG made EOS for GM. MOA is the same thing, just different pack.

:)

[c0z]

you care about oil too much

[JesterMX6]

i'm perfectly happy with my 10w30 in winter and 15w40 in summer

[82355]

you care about oil too much

Exactly.

Martin

[95gsx]

Castrol GTX high milage in all my cars with wix filters

Something else in the bike. Have not had to change it yet.

[al4171990]

on my mazda b4000 pickup i use all motorcraft products fully synthetic oil with plain old motorcraft filter

1980 monte carlo 305 v8 whatever i have i change it about every 1500 miles anyways because i never make it go 3000 miles in 3 months it takes about 6 months to go that far
i tend to use either fram or ac delco filters and vavoline oil i dont really give a **** about this car. haha

and the 1980 monte carlo v6 turbo dont know i havent changed the oil in it for the last 6 years

(it hasnt been running)

[Reaper]

Mobil One in the Ford and Castrol Act-Evo in the Bike

[Dozer]

98 Camaro- 10-40w Royal Purple, WIX/K&N/Mobile 1, 2500-3000mi
92 Cavalier- 10-30w Co-op Brand, Co-op brand Filter, 4-5000mi
83 Impala- 10-30w Kendall synthetic, AC Delco, Once a year

I beleive if you read your car manual in some vehicles it says Mostly city driving change every 3000 or 3 months, Mostly highway change 5000 or 5 months and I think you can use 1 filter for every 2 oil changes.

Winter time use a thinner oil oil to make cranking easier. If you use synthetic it really doesnt matter.

Oil type and viscosity depend on motor, power adders, race or daily driven etc.

Anyone try Redline products?

[shainesboostin]

Mobil 1 synthetic with a Mitsubishi filter

[shainesboostin]

Royal purple is a crock of ****. IMO

[Dozer]

Royal purple is a crock of ****. IMO

You dont like better performing lubes?

[95gsx]

must like it rough.

[redsled]

Royal purple is a crock of ****. IMO

Shut up, faggot.

[AWeb80]

In teh hondr...i use Valvoline maxlife 5w30 and Wix filter....I use Maxlife.....um I dunno why, just do...the honda used oil for a while, it has since slowed down to ~1qt every 2k miles...and Wix because it is the best filter I believe...


In the GP....I use some farmland stuff my dad used in his garbage trucks. I run 10w30. I use the farmland stuff because he used to send tests of it in every oil change (~200 hrs) on his trucks (CAT diesels) and they always came back w/ excellent results. He then extended his oil change intervals to 300 hrs (this is synthetic oil range) and the tests still came back great!

he used 15w40 IIRC, well, I use the 10w30 equivalent and figure it must be just as good.....I only change the oil twice a year anyways....only put on 5K miles a year.

I also use WIX or ACDelco, and I run the 4.3 filter since it fits and is twice as big for the same price.