WL: 1984 K5

[fmstruck]

Enough with the Jeeps already! Finally going to get back to my roots and build another K5. I scoured a few salvage yards and found this jewel. It's got some rust, but not a lot and is structurally sound. It is pre dented which is always a nice feature so I don't have to feel bad when I lean this one against the same tree down at Tuttle that I've leaned everything else that I own.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/0725091118a_295216.jpg

I cleaned it up and out today after I got it home and the floors are in really good shape. I'll post more pics later.
Plans are to lift it 4" with a lift I got from Frank the multicolored Hillbilly ride. Eventually I would like it to be on 38s but probably on 33s or whatever I can find for now. I have a pair of 4.56 geared 3/4T axles that will replace the weak 10 bolts. The same donor will provide a decent 350 sbc. Trans and Tcase will be SM465 and 205.
Hopefully this will be somewhat of a carbon copy of my 77 K5. I miss it dearly.

[Hillbilly]

There a mulitple fails in this thread.
1. No name? Common even "ol blue" would be something.
2. You miss the brown one after owning it twice? Fail It wasn't THAT rusty
to many others to talk about.

[fmstruck]

1. I'm sure it will acquire a name at some point. I have to see what kind of personality it has first.
2. Technically I only owned the brown one once.
3. You don't know what you've got till it's gone.

[RED]

Looks good jake cant wait to see ur progress !!!!! !!!!!

[82355]

I never got a picture for you last night because I didn't get home until around midnight. I did however start building a sweet steering stabilizer/hydraulic assist mount for Billy.

[Hillbilly]

God I love these trucks.

[82355]

More pics?

Martin

[fmstruck]

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0320.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0322.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0309.jpg

Holes for shifter are already laid out.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0313.jpg

The seats I got from Spencer are going to work swimmingly.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0311.jpg

Usually this area is non existent due to rust.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0314.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0315.jpg

350 or 427?

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0323.jpg

[Lepa]

Not gonna lie in that first pic it looks like it fits right in down durr at fairbury.


427 silly.

[fmstruck]

Anyone got a pair of big block headers for a 73-87 Chevy Pickup?

[Lepa]

Matty, aka onedayjake might.

[Hillbilly]

Nope I has them.

[Lepa]

well give them to jake.

[fmstruck]

They are on his truck, silly.

[RED]

Shoulda bought this instead. http://grandisland.craigslist.org/pts/1284701320.html
From Matt not Red.

[fmstruck]

I traded a bunch of junk for the one I got. I doubt that kid would have wanted a bunch of engineless pickups in trade.

[82355]

Pics???

Martin

[fmstruck]

You have the most up to date pictures. I have made no progress except I found a pair of good doors with glass already in them. I have been slammed at work so I haven't had time to tinker. Maybe in the next week or two I can get more done.

[82355]

No pics . . . no tranny . . .

Martin

[fmstruck]

What are you, my mother?

[82355]

I hope not.

Martin

[fmstruck]

Hahahahahaha.

[fmstruck]

Ordered these yesterday. Hopefully they are here for the weekend.

http://diy4x.com/images/429/firstgen%20shackle%20flip.JPG

[82355]

Ordered these yesterday. Hopefully they are here for the weekend.

http://diy4x.com/images/429/firstgen%20shackle%20flip.JPG

Hope you didn't order those, those are for a 1969 - '72 Blazer.

Martin

[fmstruck]

That's just a pic for reference. I called them and ordered for an '84 K5. You're always looking out for me.

[Hillbilly]

if that was true he would come down this weekend

[82355]

I have been to Fairbury more times than Jake has been to Bradish. . .

[fmstruck]

^True. May have to fix that at some point.

[Lepa]

Cleaned up, if you guys wanna ***** another thread go for it, just not a worklog.

[regal403]

You coming down tomorrow, Le papa?

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[Lepa]

I'd be tempted but I haz no way to get there.

[regal403]

We could roll tagevvah.

[Lepa]

I'd be game then probably, what time do you plan on going down?

[regal403]

0800

[82355]

Did Jake request it to be cleaned up?

[Lepa]

Yes he did.

[82355]

Otay, then I won't drop the nazi card.

[fmstruck]

Got the lift on the front and the 3/4 ton axles under it. Lepa and Joe should have some pics. Still waiting for the shackle flip.

[82355]

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/82355/0815091903a_277185.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/82355/0815091902b_285629.jpg

I love the wheels and tires.

Martin

[regal403]

Junk; Each and Every Part

[toom1h]

That is the way he likes it.

[regal403]

Junk; Each and Every Part = JEEP

[82355]

Joseph, did you take any pictures of this???

Martin

[Lepa]

I did but haven't had enough time to sit down and resize/upload pics. I should have a thread up in vids and pics sometime tonight.

[82355]

Make it snappy.

Martin

[fmstruck]

My shackle flip showed up today. Silly guys forgot to send me bushings though. I called them and they were very apologetic. I should have them in a couple days.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/DIY4XFlip.jpg

[RED]

Looks great more pics !!!!!!!!!!!

[fmstruck]

Got my shackle flip on and deleted the gas tank. Ordered a pair of headers that are "supposed" to work for BBC 4speed 4x4 K5. We'll see. I think it should sit about right with the motor in it.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0324.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0327.jpg

[82355]

I like.

Martin

[regal403]

What motor are you installing?

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[fmstruck]

The 427 I took out of Dale.

[82355]

Propane I assume? Where are you mounting the tank?

[fmstruck]

Behind the rear seat. I have a small one that fits in a G body.

[82355]

Just curious, is that considered "safe"? Also, where is the update from yesterday?

[fmstruck]

It's safer than having a vented gas tank back there.

And here's your pics.

I'm gonna change the front clip anyway, so John helped me pull it off. Took all of 5 minutes.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/0824092027a_295941.jpg

While the clip is off it was much easier to install the hyd clutch master cyl.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/0824092025a_165129.jpg

[RED]

Looks great !!!!!! How much was that shackle kit ?

[fmstruck]

$190 shipped. You can get them with shackles for a little more. I made mine out of 1/2x2" flat. 5" center to center.

[82355]

What clip are you putting on it?

Martin

[Hillbilly]

The one off the white one cause I am keep thing the nice one off my new found 87 clunker.

[82355]

Jake, you have a digital camera . . .

[fmstruck]

^What!?

Marty, I had already sent the pics to my email when I sent them to you so being the lazy bum that I am, I decided not to take new pics with my camera and go through a bunch of extra steps.

[fmstruck]

How drunk are you?

[Hillbilly]

not too bad. You would have let me drive your k20 home at this point. All Martin ever says is pics pics pics, tell him to come down and see for himself. I thought it was funny sorry I will delete it.

[fmstruck]

Whatever, that's just how you talk when you're drunk, that's all.

[Hillbilly]

I am always drunk then.

[regal403]

What story? Cliffs?

[82355]

What did we miss?

[Lepa]

Drunken posts by hillbilly, nazi power ftmfw I'm tempted to use one of them as a quote in my sig.



Nice update on the K5 jake, can't wait to see it moving.

[fmstruck]

Yeah, by the way, who deleted them, and under whose authority? Lately half the board disappears overnight.

[Hillbilly]

I did, I have the power to remove drunkin rambling.

[Lepa]

Yeah, by the way, who deleted them, and under whose authority? Lately half the board disappears overnight.

What's been disappearing over night? I haven't been around much lately. If you're referring to the other drunken posts/thread made by John he deleted those also.

[Hillbilly]

I just didn't want everyone knowing how small my parts are.

[regal403]

Cliffs?

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[Hillbilly]

I told martin that jesus told jake to sell his camera so there would be no pics. Then I quoted a bible verse about when jesus told him.

[fmstruck]

Yeah, by the way, who deleted them, and under whose authority? Lately half the board disappears overnight.

What's been disappearing over night? I haven't been around much lately. If you're referring to the other drunken posts/thread made by John he deleted those also.

Those are the threads/posts to which I was referring.

[82355]

Update?

[fmstruck]

Engine, tranny, and tcase are installed. I had to drill the holes in the frame for the crossmember which wasn't real fun. Robbed the wiring harness out of my old white truck. I hadn't hacked it up as bad as I thought. A good weekend should have the old 427 making music again. I'll get some pics up tomorrow.

[fmstruck]

Pics just for Marty. Everyone else can look too.

Lookin' mean as always

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0333.jpg

Up the gut.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0329.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0332.jpg

There is one too many of something in this picture. Anyone? Anyone?

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0336.jpg

I hope to get it running this weekend. We'll see.

[regal403]

One too many pedals, one too many shifters, and one too many radios. You don't need a radio in Ralph.

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[82355]

Ralph? All pickups/Blazers/Suburbans need a radio.

Martin

[82355]

Twin stick the 205???

Martin

[fmstruck]

This is the tcase I took the interlocks out of. I have to build twin shifters for it, so I will probably just put it in 4 low and leave it there with no shifter for a while.

[regal403]

Ralph? All pickups/Blazers/Suburbans need a radio.

Martin

I think it's a cute name. As far as I know, he hasn't named this one yet. Ralph works.

[Hillbilly]

I like ralph. Does need a radio.

[82355]

Update?

Martin

[fmstruck]

I'm slowly making progress. Got some of my Propane stuff installed. I pilfered it off of my service truck. I had to put the front clip on so I'd have something to mount it all to.

I'm thinking of not painting any of it. Only thing I need is a red or green (not blue) tailgate to complete the spectrum.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/0907091308a_275984.jpg

[Hillbilly]

I only have brown left, sorry.

[82355]

Hello???

Martin

[RED]

I would come down & paint that thing if u want to swap out just a little labor but do i have to buy the paint TOO ???? LOL IT NEEDS SOME TYPE O COLOR !!!!!

[82355]

Still no update?

[fmstruck]

I would come down & paint that thing if u want to swap out just a little labor but do i have to buy the paint TOO ???? LOL IT NEEDS SOME TYPE O COLOR !!!!!

It has plenty of color.










JK, I'm sure I will paint it desert tan.

[fmstruck]

Still no update?

Patience.

[RED]

I would come down & paint that thing if u want to swap out just a little labor but do i have to buy the paint TOO ???? LOL IT NEEDS SOME TYPE O COLOR !!!!!

It has plenty of color.










JK, I'm sure I will paint it desert tan.

:Hammer:

[82355]

Wheel update?

[Hillbilly]

4 so far.

[fmstruck]

Got my wheels recentered and mounted. I spaced the new TrailWorthy centers to acheive 4" backspace and welded them in. Then I cut the old centers out on my big old ugly lathe. I think they look tough.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0339.jpg

Some of you silly guys think I need to paint this thing.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0337.jpg

Yeah, we're just gonna use that term 36" very loosely from now on.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0340.jpg

[82355]

I can't see pictures here on my cell phone, what did they measure up to? I know New Guy's weren't as tall as my 36" Swampers. That's why I wanted a set of 37's to try out.

[regal403]

I can't see pictures here on my cell phone, what did they measure up to? I know New Guy's weren't as tall as my 36" Swampers. That's why I wanted a set of 37's to try out.

Just shy of 33".

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[Hillbilly]

mine are 35 ish

[fmstruck]

Finally got it running and moving. Even looks better in the sunlight.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0343.jpg

Obligatory flex shots just for Joe.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0341.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0342.jpg

Look out rocks, I'm comin' for ya.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0344.jpg

All done, but the finishing. That takes the most time I think. At least now I can run it in and out of the shop if it's in the way.

[82355]

I love it.

Martin

[82355]

So does it flex better with the shackle flip as opposed to the lift blocks on the rear of the other one, or can you not notice a difference?

[Lepa]

I'm hard.

Martin

[fmstruck]

So does it flex better with the shackle flip as opposed to the lift blocks on the rear of the other one, or can you not notice a difference?

Can't realy tell yet.

[82355]

How loud is the big block with open headers?

Martin

[fmstruck]

Stupid loud.

[regal403]

I approve.

[96speedZ28]

That thing is sweet

[RED]

looks great !!!!!!!! still needs SOME paint !!!!!!!! LOL

[82355]

I believe it got some paint today Red.

Martin

[regal403]

Use your head, silly!
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/420/0923091711a249370.jpg

Want that, get that!
Jump back, get back!
Which one? Dis one!
She gon' let me cut, dat's all I know!

[regal403]

I get to use this this weekend.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1457/0923091712.jpg

[fmstruck]

Thanks for posting the pic, Joe. I'll finish it and post some more.

[fmstruck]

Took the top off so I could install my propane tank and paint the bed rails. I'm likin' the CUCV vibe it's emitting.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0346.jpg

I kinda like how it looked with the top on better.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0347.jpg

[MadmaX]

the wheels and that paintjob are very tasteful.

[regal403]

Didn't military K5-style Blazers exist, or is that my imagination running amok?

On a side note, I saw a civilian-owned CUCV towing a flatbed for a lawn service yesterday. It was cool, but they should have painted the trailer to match the rig, in my opinion.

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[Hillbilly]

They exist but were just 1/2 tons

[82355]

You should build a sweet rear bumper for this.

Martin

[fmstruck]

That's a great idea, Marty.

Tada!!

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/0930091030a_303454.jpg

[82355]

More pics?

Martin

[82355]

Update?

[fmstruck]

Got my front bumper installed today after I got done working. This is the same one I had on my 77 K5. Sorry for the horrible cellphone pics.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/1001091726a_328738.jpg

Before Tuttle I just need to:
1. Grind the stops out of the CV joint in the front driveshaft.
2. Install my Lockright in the rear.
3. Weld front diff.
4. Bolt my LP tank down.
5. Install a radio and a CB.(extra credit)

[regal403]

Grille guard? Hello.

[fmstruck]

Yeah, not a fan.

[Hillbilly]

I like mine lots

[82355]

Yeah, not a fan.

Prefer broken out grilles?

Martin

[regal403]

Yeah, not a fan.

How can you not like grille guards?
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs203.snc1/7021_664713322183_17215458_38755949_3467269_n.jpg

http://www.whiteknight.ca/P3150111.jpg

http://www.whiteknight.ca/Xd_up_DieselCrawler.jpg

At least get a push bar.


Oh, and you should get some of these wheels instead:
http://www.whiteknight.ca/Davee.jpg

[82355]

I love Jake's wheels.

[Hillbilly]

I am getting hurricanes. I kick ass

[82355]

Jake's wheels > Hurricanes.

Martin

[fmstruck]

Installed a stereo and some 6x9s. Got my Beadlocks in all 4 tires. Bolted down the LP tank. I welded the spider gears in the rear end, so that only leaves clearancing the front driveshaft and it'll be ready for the trail.
Pics tomorrow.

[82355]

The free bead locks, or the PVC ones? Decided to leave the lockright in Dale huh?

Martin

[fmstruck]

The PVC ones. Leaving the Lockright in Dale boiled down to laziness. I didn't want to pull 2 diffs apart just to switch them out.

[fmstruck]

And once you've had a locker in a truck, it's just not the same without it.

[82355]

And once you've had a locker in a truck, it's just not the same without it.

That's what I kind of thought when you said you were going to take it out of Dale. How did you get your PVC inserts?

Martin

[fmstruck]

The guy we were supposed to pick up the 1911 for brought them back the next weekend.

[regal403]

1911

Oliver model or year of something else?

[fmstruck]

Colt 1911 Semiautomatic .45 cal Handgun.

[regal403]

Sounds cute.

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[fmstruck]

Here's a few pics as promised.

In this pic you can see several things I did Friday. Installed stereo, Installed manual gauges. Updated the steering wheel.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0350.jpg

I love my lathe.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0351.jpg

I robbed these speakers out of Dale. He still has 6 inchers in the doors so it's all good.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0352.jpg

Propane tank takes up most of the cargo area. Not real pleased with this tank. I may have to scrounge for another.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk117/fmstruck/100_0353.jpg

Just need to clearance the front driveshaft and take it on a little shakedown run to John's before Tuttle.

[82355]

No action shots from John's pasture?

[fmstruck]

I was by myself, so no.

[RED]

LOOKS good when r we going down to tutle after harvest ?????

[RED]

I think that Craig is close to being ready also wish mine was ready :(

[burnoutnova]

I am getting hurricanes. I kick ass

I already got Hurricanes... so I kick more ass!

[fmstruck]

Yours are short 2 lug holes each. You fail.

[burnoutnova]

Yours are short 2 lug holes each. You fail.

This is my nice one. I have some other trucks for beating on. I thought of putting my big block and some 3/4t axles in but these ones are rebulit, the rear has new bearings and a posi carrier, and all new ball joints/ bearings and u joints in the front. I don't want to put in old used 3/4t axles to replace my brand new 1/2t axles when I wouldn't need the strength anyway. The 12 bolt and D44 are plenty for putting around.

[82355]

I would agree with that. That thing is too pretty to go beat on anyway.

[Hillbilly]

Ya, get a 79 k30 and beat the **** out of it, I do.

[burnoutnova]

I'm looking for some decent 3/4t axles with 4.10s for my 86 K10... also want a pre 80 manual np205 w/driveshafts and the adapter and everything. Want to put a 205 and 3/4 axles in it. I have a 454 I'm gonna freshen up and put it all in there. If I can find decent deals on all the stuff I need.

[fmstruck]

Over the weekend I got the camshaft swapped out. I still have a little tick that I can't get rid of, but all the pushrods are turning, so I think that's a good sign. Guess we'll wait and see.

[82355]

No update?

Martin

[fmstruck]

Nothing photo-worthy, but I did get my title issue resolved. I ended up getting an Assembled Vehicle title. What a fiasco! It's a really long, but kinda funny story actually. Suffice it to say, I had to go back to the Sherriff's office 3 times before we got the inspection right. I sent my paperwork in to the State offices twice, because they misinformed me. I ended up changing a door on the drivers side so that I had VIN displayed that matched one of the titles I was turning in. (I have since replaced that door with the one that belongs on the truck.)
The only real problem I see, is that now every time a law enforcement official runs my plate, it comes back to a 2009 Assembled Vehicle and not a 1984 Chevy K5. I have already been pulled over once in Fairbury because of it. No other reason. I had to explain it all to the officer. He still doesn't understand.

[Hillbilly]

^ cops in fairbury aren't what you say MENSA members. You Blazer makes me think about buying a cherry one I got offered.

[regal403]

When will this be for sale, Jake?

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[Hillbilly]

He can't sell it ever, cause I would kill him and it would be said to see his girl grow up without a dad.

[Lepa]

3-5 months Joe. Hillbilly is all talk no bite, lots of cuddling tho.

[Hillbilly]

He sold the k20 if he sells the blazer I will have his nuts.

[regal403]

He sold the Buick and the Jeep, too.

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[Hillbilly]

Do you remeber in fight club where the cops are going to cut his nuts off cause he told them to earlier? Jake told me I as to beat his ass silly if he sells the blazer.

[fmstruck]

To answer your question, Joe, I can outrun John if the price is right. But the price would have to be really right.

[fmstruck]

I always forget how much work it is to get one to this point until I'm building another one, though. That's the problem. That's why I told John to beat me senseless if I talked about selling it.

[fmstruck]

The rear end locked up going down the highway, so I ebayed a ring and pinion and a lockright. Since those won't be here for a while, I decided to patch it back together with a bunch of pieces I had laying around. The ring and pinion are wounded, but have a little fight left in them.

[82355]

Did it destroy the old lock right?

[fmstruck]

I had welded the teeth shut in the side gears. One of the spiders broke and a piece of it got shot through the cover which is why it was out of grease. I just welded it up again until my new stuff arrives.

[Hillbilly]

You could bend a crowbar in a sandbox.

[fmstruck]

That's just not true. I'm crushed.

[fmstruck]

Wrong dipstick = FAILURE.

When I put this motor in, I had to scrounge up a dipstick and tube. Unfortunately, they weren't a perfect match. I now have a wounded crankshaft to show for it. My original 427 crank will have to be ground .010 .010 to clean up. AAhhhggghhh.

[82355]

Pics?

[burnoutnova]

Just read through this... sucks about the crank. I am thoroughly convinced DIY4X is the way to go for the shackle flip. I kinda wish I would of bought a Blazer instead of the 86 K10 I am building. Being able to seat for would be more fun.

[82355]

Suburban > K5

[burban swervin]

Suburban > K5

[82355]

Suburban > K5

Suburban, Jimmy, Blazer, K10, K20, K30, etc > lame ass Jeeps.

Martin

[Hillbilly]

Suburban > K5

Suburban, Jimmy, Blazer, K10, K20, K30, etc > lame ass Jeeps.

Martin

I support martin

[toom1h]

I hate you both.
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[burnoutnova]

Suburban > K5

For booze cruising and hauling people... yes.

I would prefer a Blazer for wheelin though

[82355]

I have one, it is squirrely as ****.

Martin

[burnoutnova]

I have one, it is squirrely as ****.

Martin

You have a Blazer? You still have the K30 AND the Burb too?

[sn95.0]

I have one, it is squirrely as ****.

Martin

You have a Blazer? You still have the K30 AND the Burb too?

http://starcityracing.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=30446

[burnoutnova]

Wow... never knew you had a K5. Seems like it was a good deal. I wish I could find deals like that.

[82355]

I have one, it is squirrely as ****.

Martin

You have a Blazer? You still have the K30 AND the Burb too?

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/82355/10-03-09_1831.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/82355/10-03-09_1834.jpg

Martin

[burnoutnova]

wicked

[Hillbilly]

Collect all three! I am going for the k10-k20-k30 first. Think I need a 87 454 4x4 sm465 k20.

[82355]

I know where there is a really nice one of those. Not sure if it is for sale though.

[burnoutnova]

Collect all three! I am going for the k10-k20-k30 first. Think I need a 87 454 4x4 sm465 k20.

Wouldn't you want an older one to get the better axles? and better T-case? Or does the hyd clutch appeal to you more?

I really regret selling my 69 K20... It was green too just like my K10 they would look mean sitting next to each other.

[Hillbilly]

Ah tbi? I am willing to bet it would have a 14ff and I could find a 60 later and still call it a k20 or just leave it and pull my k30 or camaro. The only difference would be a 44 vs 10? potato potato.

[82355]

1987 is the zenith of Chevrolet pickups.

[burnoutnova]

I thought the 87 K20 would have a SF14 bolt? What would if a K20 doesnt?

[burnoutnova]

1987 is the zenith of Chevrolet pickups.

I didn't realize TBI was that desirable. I guess if you don't have a carb that is tuned correctly that's half the problem. Do you guys just like the way TBI performs when the truck isn't flat? I like the Truck avenger on my 86 so far. Seems to run good. I lifted the front of the truck up with the air jack at work to about a 45 deg angle and it was still idling perfect.

[MadmaX]

I love TBI simply because I've never had to do anything to one. ever. and they'll get around the same mpg as a V6 toyota pickup.

[burnoutnova]

I love TBI simply because I've never had to do anything to one. ever. and they'll get around the same mpg as a V6 toyota pickup.

I've have to clean the PCV passage on several cars and trucks with TBI. Along with replacing injectors, ignition modules, pickup assembly's in the dist, map sensors, tps sensors, etc. It's probably because the shop I work at specializes in GM stuff, so we see a lot of those cars and trucks. You're right though compared to some stuff they seem to be pretty low maintenance.

[82355]

K20's get semi floaters dependent upon their GVWR I believe. I have seen 1982+ K20's with semi floaters and full floaters.

Martin

[burnoutnova]

K20's get semi floaters dependent upon their GVWR I believe. I have seen 1982+ K20's with semi floaters and full floaters.

Martin

Didn't know that. What was the difference in the GVWR? was it the 6 bolt "heavy half" K20/2500 vs. the 8 lug K20/2500? I'm pretty sure I've seen them, but did they make 8 lug SF14 bolts? I have seen some newer 88-up K2500's with 6 bolt axles and semi floaters, but never payed that much attention really.

[fmstruck]

There were a few years where they made all three, I believe. You could get a light 3/4 with 9.5" 14SF 6 lug, light 3/4 with 9.5" 14SF 8 lug, and heavy 3/4 with 10.5" 14FF 8 lug.

[burnoutnova]

There were a few years where they made all three, I believe. You could get a light 3/4 with 9.5" 14SF 6 lug, light 3/4 with 9.5" 14SF 8 lug, and heavy 3/4 with 10.5" 14FF 8 lug.

What the easiest way to tell the 8 lug SF14 vs the 8 lug FF14? It seems like the FF14's Ive seen have bigger/wider brake drums when viewed from the rear. I guess the rear cover would be bigger also. Anything else to identify them quickly?

There's a 87 K20 sitting at the lot at work, But I know its on an older frame due to the front frame horns being rounded instead of cut off... Maybe I'll rob the axles if it's got a FF14

[fmstruck]

The pinion support bolts in to the front of a 14 FF like a 9" Ford does.

[burnoutnova]

The pinion support bolts in to the front of a 14 FF like a 9" Ford does.

Good to know. I'm gonna look at that one at the shop tomorrow... Maybe I'll score some axles for my 86:eek:

[82355]

A semi floater will be flat at the drum like a 12bolt/10bolt. A full floater will have a hub sticking out through the wheel with eight 1/2" bolts (3/4' head) retaining the axle.

That is the hub on a full floater.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/82355/Wades%20K10/10-23-09_1358.jpg

That is a 14 bolt full floater from the rear.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/82355/0323091405.jpg

See, no protruding hub on semi floating axles. Sorry I don't have a better picture.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/82355/0228091510.jpg

Martin

[82355]

Is that '87 K20 still operable? Does it still have the TBI engine? It isn't an SM465/NP208 is it?

Martin

[burnoutnova]

I knew the part about the axle retainers, but it seems like every freakin one i glance at has hub caps on it.

[burnoutnova]

Is that '87 K20 still operable? Does it still have the TBI engine? It isn't an SM465/NP208 is it?

Martin

It's a giant piece of ****... It is a LWB stepside, thats ugly as ****. It doesnt run, and the body is just sitting on the frame not bolted down at all. I think it is an older K20 frame based on the front frame horns. It does have a sm465, not sure on the t-case. Don't think theres an engine in it. What I think happened is, my boss was collecting parts to put it together, and set a 2wd body on a K20 frame he got. I know it's an 87 body because there's a "fuel injection" emblem on the tailgate. I'm gonna look at it closer tomorrow.

[82355]

Pop off the hub caps?

Then keep them for your stock steels wheels!
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/82355/05-09-09_1539.jpg


Martin

[82355]

Is that '87 K20 still operable? Does it still have the TBI engine? It isn't an SM465/NP208 is it?

Martin

It's a giant piece of ****... It is a LWB stepside, thats ugly as ****. It doesnt run, and the body is just sitting on the frame not bolted down at all. I think it is an older K20 frame based on the front frame horns. It does have a sm465, not sure on the t-case. Don't think theres an engine in it. What I think happened is, my boss was collecting parts to put it together, and set a 2wd body on a K20 frame he got. I know it's an 87 body because there's a "fuel injection" emblem on the tailgate. I'm gonna look at it closer tomorrow.

You should gank me the FUEL INJECTION emblem. Then you should tell your boss I'll give him $200 for a complete SM465/NP208 setup.

Martin

[burnoutnova]

Is that '87 K20 still operable? Does it still have the TBI engine? It isn't an SM465/NP208 is it?

Martin

It's a giant piece of ****... It is a LWB stepside, thats ugly as ****. It doesnt run, and the body is just sitting on the frame not bolted down at all. I think it is an older K20 frame based on the front frame horns. It does have a sm465, not sure on the t-case. Don't think theres an engine in it. What I think happened is, my boss was collecting parts to put it together, and set a 2wd body on a K20 frame he got. I know it's an 87 body because there's a "fuel injection" emblem on the tailgate. I'm gonna look at it closer tomorrow.

You should gank me the FUEL INJECTION emblem. Then you should tell your boss I'll give him $200 for a complete SM465/NP208 setup.

Martin

I have one of those emblems in my tool box. I closed the tailgate on a truck I was working on and later found the emblem on the floor. You can have it.

I'll see what the truck has in it. I have a feeling it will be a sm465/np205 you familiar with the way the frame horns changed in '81? This truck has the older style horns.

[82355]

Yeah, I am, because I tried to use bumper brackets form a '76 K20 on an '82 K30. I made them work. That being said, i would still be interested in buying 4 speed parts. I wonder if it has the hydraulic clutch stuff or not? It could very well be just a tail gate from a 1987. I am pretty sure they were no longer making long box stepsides anymore by 1987.

I demand pics!!!

Martin

[burnoutnova]

Yeah, I am, because I tried to use bumper brackets form a '76 K20 on an '82 K30. I made them work. That being said, i would still be interested in buying 4 speed parts. I wonder if it has the hydraulic clutch stuff or not? It could very well be just a tail gate from a 1987. I am pretty sure they were no longer making long box stepsides anymore by 1987.

I demand pics!!!

Martin

I have my camera at work, I'll get some tomorrow. I don't want to speculate to much, but I think the whole body is pretty much original. It all matches pretty good if it was pieced together.

When did they start using the hyd clutches? Theres an '81 GMC K1500 with a 4 speed out there to. It should have a 465/208? Not sure if he would part it out it's still a pretty complete truck.

[82355]

They used SM465/NP205 combos with fixed yokes from 1973 to '79 (except for some very rare '74 and '75s that had optional SM465/NP203 combos). These used a short 10 spline output shaft, a coupler sleave, a figure 8 adapter housing pattern, and a male 10 spline input shaft on the NP205 In 1980 they used rear slip yokes except for crew cabs. In 1981 everything besides K30s began using a long 32 spline output shaft with an NP208. The NP208 has the generic round 6 bolt pattern, and uses a female input shaft, eliminating the weak coupler sleave. In 1985 the entire line up switched to hydraulic clutches. Also in 1985, K30s began using the same long 32 spline output shaft as the other trucks, but still retained the NP205, except with the round 6 bolt pattern and a female input shaft. The K5, K20 crew cabs, and Suburbans switched from the NP208 to the NP241 in 1989. Any other questions?

[Hillbilly]

Why do they call it grapefruit? I mean it doesn't taste like grapes at all. They should call it something else.

[fmstruck]

Hold your horses there misters. I would be interested in this 87 K20. Any leads on Chevy 4x4s acquired in my work log automatically become the property of the tread starter.

So yeah, snap some pics of my next pickup please.

[82355]

I already took pictures of a '76 K10 for you Jake.

[burnoutnova]

I was wrong about a few things... the thing doesn't even have a motor/trans or t/case in it. I thought it has a trans and t/case, it has pedals and a 4 speed steering column, but thats it. I think someone bought the trans/tcase a couple years ago while I wasn't working there full time. It has the SF14 bolt, and a corp 10 bolt front. Looks like an older frame to me but why would it have a SF14 in the rear? When did they star using those? I know the 10 bolt is possible if its a 78 and newer frame. I got a closeup of Martins emblem also.

PICS!!!:rofl:
http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b7600d78e19a.jpg

emblem
http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b7600d8791d0.jpg

SF14 bolt
http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b760198dac25.jpg

10 bolt
http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b76019962694.jpg

A 77 K10 Shortbox a guy I work with is getting ready to re-do like my storage spot for that cab?
http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b760199e34e2.jpg

http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b7601ea04304.jpg

Best airbrush job ever! Straight outta the 70's :lol:
http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b7601ea81ecc.jpg

http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b7601eb0bfea.jpg

[fmstruck]

That is a FF14 bolt. I think you misunderstood me about the pinion support earlier. The whole third member doesn't bolt in, just the pinion bearing support. Find out what the guy wants for the whole thing if you would, please.

[82355]

Can't see the pics on my cell phone.

[burnoutnova]

Can't see the pics on my cell phone.

:shock:

I did misunderstand the part about the pinion support. I didn't look at it very good, because I didn't want to kneel in the snowy mud. If it is a FF14 bolt I might robs the axles and put them in my 86

[Hillbilly]

maybe I really want that long box step side.

[burnoutnova]

It is junk. Parts vehicle at best. So much stuff is missing You'd need another complete truck to put it back together. The body isn't even bolted to the frame. I think the only thing worth a crap is the axles and the hood, maybe the grill is reusable. Cab is rusted, as you can see every body panel is dented or rusted, ect. No motor/trans/tcase and no engine harness that I could see. The only thing left of the TBI is the emblem I took a screwdriver to earlier!

[fmstruck]

I can see all that. I am interested mostly in the frame and axles. I have a pretty decent body that I would put on it.

[burnoutnova]

I can see all that. I am interested mostly in the frame and axles. I have a pretty decent body that I would put on it.

I tallked to him today. Not for you... sorry:( I asked him if he'd let me take the axles from it for my 86 but he says he's gonna put the axles under his 79 GMC. Pisses me off to, I know that thing will sit there forever. He was surprised it didn't have a trans or t/case too, I guess when you have like 10 trucks and a whole freaking lot full of junk cars you forget stuff.