WL: 2002 Camaro Z28

[spoonraker]

Well I at least am starting to gather parts, so I guess it's time for me to make one of these.

Bought the car from a guy in Florida, had a hell of a time getting it shipped up here, but it did eventually make it's way down here.

Navy Blue Metallic, 59k miles, black leather, t-tops, etc.

Plans are :
-Beef up the drivetrain (9'' rear, TH350 reverse manual with tbrake)
-Nitrous
-Suspension and sticky tires

The only work that's been done so far is putting new brake pads and rotors on it all around, an oil change, and removal of the strut brace. However I have already purchased a nitrous kit, wheels and tires are on the way and should arrive friday, and I will purchase the rear when I have the funds.

I was going to buy the rear first thing but I forgot to factor in the cost of registration into my budget, and then I found a deal on the wheels/tires that I just couldn't pass up, same with the nitrous...so I spent about $1800 already and need to save up a tad more before I drop another 2 grand on the rear :S

anyway i'll get some pics up when I get a chance

[spoonraker]

Slicks and skinnies are here!!! :woot:

15x10 weld draglites with 11.5x27 QTP slicks, and 15x3.5 on the front with MT FrontRunners

I had them shipped to my office and they still need a good cleaning so no pics just yet, but i'll take some when I get home

[Z28]

Wait, you mean you had to pay the taxes when you thought you could get away with it

[spoonraker]

yeah, since there was a smudge on my bill of sale they actually called the seller and he told them the real purchased price, they threatened to arrest me for tax fraud and everything.

if I would have just known they were gonna call I could have easily just told him what price to say, but oh well

[Z28]

Yea i remember the rant thread, too bad, that would of been good mod money...

OHHH, btw.. z28>SS

[HINZ28]

I have yet to see or hear this car, wat mods were previously done to the car?

[spoonraker]

Ahh yeah forgot to list that...

Mods that were on the car when I bought it:
-rear lower control arms
-subframe connectors
-panhard bar
-255 lph fuel pump
-mac mid length headers
-****** catback w/ 3'' cutout (always open cause I don't have the cover)
-hotcam
-lid
-3800 stall converter and tranny cooler

i'll get some pics today since the car is actually somewhat clean right now

[cole]

i'll get some pics today since the car is actually somewhat clean right now

:lost:



:)

[spoonraker]

haha yeah I didn't wash it for forever since it was sitting outside at the mercy of my neighbor's ****ing cottonwood tree. In one day it would look like **** so I let it go until I finally got around to clearing out a spot in the garage for it.

[spoonraker]

God damnit, I need to grind my calipers a bit more for these draglites to fit. Even though the previous owner ground them for draglites already mine are 2'' wider and apparently that means they don't fit the same.

[cole]

whats the backspacing on them?

[spoonraker]

7.5''

[cole]

odd

[spoonraker]

That's what ls1tech said the ideal BS is for a 10'' wheel, and they fit great when they were on. I just need a bit more grinding so they don't rub.

[cole]

thats what i thought, too...hence, "odd"

[spoonraker]

have you never heard of having to gring the calipers a bit to get 15'' wheels to fit? Its required for almost all 15'' wheels. Ahmad did his for his summit stars. I think right now only bogart makes a 15'' wheel specifically designed to clear fbody brakes.

[cole]

oh yes

ls1 brakes are gay...there are some people who have actually lt1 rear brake swaps to get certain wheels to fit (greg weld, etc.)

[Thunder]

have you never heard of having to gring the calipers a bit to get 15'' wheels to fit? Its required for almost all 15'' wheels. Ahmad did his for his summit stars. I think right now only bogart makes a 15'' wheel specifically designed to clear fbody brakes.

centerline telstars are supposed to be a pretty close fit.

[Lt4TransAm]

Telstars are the worst wheels to buy for a forth gen. Everybody i asked said dont even waste your time trying to them to fit. I have LT1 rear calipers already so i should be better off when i get drag wheels.:woot:

[Z28]

shoulda got pro stars?

[spoonraker]

turns out the calipers were hitting the damn weights to balance the wheel. fml

[Thunder]

Oh, well I coulda told you to remove the weights...

I didn't get mine balanced, never had any problems...

[toom1h]

Then why does your car not run and his does?

[spoonraker]

god damn you have to grind more off the calipers than I would have imagined. The slicks are on, and they spin...sort of. Still plenty of grinding at least on one side, and I haven't even attempted fitting the skinnies yet. :S

[spoonraker]

Ok well the calipers are finally ground down enough and after rolling the car down the driveway and back up and taking the wheels off to double check rubbing I can now see that I have to cut off my bump stop mounts...ugh... getting close though.

If the front brakes are going to be this bad then I'm going to just leave the stock tires on the front until I have money saved up for a set of drag brakes that will clear the wheels without issue.

[spoonraker]

finally uploaded a few pictures...

just the car how it was when I got it...

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Stuff sittin in my garage waiting for installation...

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grind grind grind grind...after doing this and realizing just how much material you have to actually take off, I'm gonna save up my money for real drag brakes that will clear the wheels without modification. I sure am not doing this with my front ones, so the skinnies will have to wait. At the point when I took these pictures I still wasn't even close to having done enough...I put the wheels on and they didn't even budge. Now they spin but I have to chop off the bump stops for clearance :S

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[Thunder]

oh you silly noobscicle... you don't need to grind much off the front, its mostly the corners and the back... plus the lettering thats embossed on the caliper. PBR australia was causing issues with my wheels, ground it off and they were fittin fine.

[spoonraker]

You have 8'' wheels mine are 10'', also yours are Summit and not Weld. Trust me I've been marking them up and only grinding down where it's rubbing. I also already removed the bumpstops, but I still have to chop off the mounts because they were rubbing the inside of the tire.

****'s lame. Anybody know what sort of brakes I could buy that would clearance the 15'' draglites without any grinding or spacers?

[srt-4_uk]

V6 camEro brakes any smaller?

[spoonraker]

Probably not, but I dunno. I've heard LT1 brakes have better clearance, but I've never definitively heard anybody say they'll fit 15'' wheels without any modification.

[Thunder]

yes LT1 brakes clear.

way to pick out odd 10" wheels

if you want to try a couple of wheel spacers, i have 2

[spoonraker]

I have wheel spacers for the front, but I'd prefer to not run them. I just made a thread on LS1tech asking what the best option is for brakes that will clear 15'' rims front and back without modification, I'll see what they say.

[spoonraker]

I sold the wheels/tires because they were just too big of a pain to fit and I didn't want to destroy my brake system. I'll be replacing my ground-to-hell calipers and spending the money on some wheels that will fit directly with no brake modification. Probably Bogarts, and as an added bonus, they are considerably lighter than the Welds previously.

I'm going to shift my focus back to beefing up the drivetrain. First thing I need to buy is a rear end. I've been talking to several people about buying a used 12 bolt or 9'', but I guess if nothing happens I'll bite the bullet and buy something new.

After that I'm going to install the nitrous. I just need some safety stuff and accessories.
Nitrous shopping list :
-Fuel pressure safety switch
-Window switch
-Bottle heater
-Might pick up a remote opener
-Purge

[cole]

bogarts = :drool:

[spoonraker]

I finally went and picked up a T45 socket so I could finish removing my back seat. Maybe now it's actually big enough for people with legs to sit back there. Except there's no more seatbelts. Oh well...

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With me driving I need to drop all the weight I can in the car, plus after seeing the job the previous owner did attempting to install an a-pillar gauge pod I thought it would be a good idea to check out his wiring of the aftermarket fuel pump... :ohnoes:

Here is my fuel pump relay. Yes it is grounded to a thin floating chunk of metal that is not a direct part of the unibody, and yes it is attached with velcro that the glue has since melted off of and it is now just dangling by the wires

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-08-03/1.jpg

This is a giant hole cut in the trunk floor so he could gain access to the fuel tank without dropping it. Lazy, however fine with me...except all he did to cover the giant hole was duct tape the piece of metal back on...

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more random wiring mess...

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Not sure what these wires are for, but I'm guessing it was for an amplifier or something that used to be in the car

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Guess I have some re-wiring to do :cry:

[cole]

** wires

[spoonraker]

Got a lead on a Strange 12-Bolt, 35 spline axles, spool, :ohnoes: hope I get it...

[Z28]

oh yea? sweet

[spoonraker]

just got off the phone with the guy sellin the strange rear and it's gonna be mine. just need to figure out which is cheaper an 800+ mile round trip drive, or the shipping from branson, MO to here. if I picked it up i'd take the camaro and stay for a big cruise event they have comin up, so it would probably be a lot cheaper to ship it cause that's $200+ in gas

[Burntz]

ship it, get it in asap.

Sucks about the wiring, might as well go through, do it nice and neat so you don't have to worry about it. I'd drill / tap some mounting holes for the cover to get to the tank so its a bit more secure.

Btw, If you ever need a lighter guy that still knows how to drive, sign me up :D

[96speedZ28]

You planning on throwing a rearend in the back seat or what? :lol:

[spoonraker]

uhh...possibly :)

and burntz i've always thought it would be interesting to have me take a pass and then have some skinny dude like mike make a pass in the same car, too see how big of a difference probably 200+ pounds really makes

[Z28]

i weigh 180 and can drive an auto like nobodies business

[HINZ28]

i weigh 180 and anyone can drive an auto like nobodies business

[96speedZ28]

^ Liar!

[Burntz]

I weigh 173, get owned!

[spoonraker]

I have officially purchased a rear end...finally.

Strange 12-bolt, spool, 35 spline axles, 4.10 gears (gonna swap in some 3.70s), LCA relocation brackets, and 0 miles after a rebuild. $1600 :woot:

Should be here either friday or monday.

I also found a good deal on an NX remote nitrous bottle opener, so I bought that. Oh and I got some mounting brackets for the bottle, so just need some more nitrous safety stuff and slicks and I'm ready to go pretty fast.

And I'll probably be buying a big suspension kit from the same guy with the rear end. Midwest chassis adjustable tq arm, adjustable panhard, and adjustable LCAs, boxed SFCs. I can't afford it until I get paid next, but he said he'd hold it for me so :woot:

If anybody wants a good deal on a nice motor the guy is also selling a 2008 LS3 shortblock with 4XXX miles on it, plus heads for $2300

[Burntz]

dam spoon doin it big

[Lt4TransAm]

What heads are on the motor?

[spoonraker]

Nobody will ever say I don't have enough suspension :lol:

By the time I'm done I will have...

boxed subframe connectors
adjustable chassis mount torque arm
adjustable panhard
adjustable lower control arms
adjustable shocks
different springs
and hell, when I get the money maybe I'll just do a tubular kmember too

[spoonraker]

What heads are on the motor?

I dunno, I can get you the guys number if you really are interested. Be warned though, he'll talk all day.

[Lt4TransAm]

WHats his name on Ls1tech?

[HINZ28]

^ Liar!

Your right i weigh 150 :)

[spoonraker]

Brad Hutchcraft on ls1tech but he hasn't answered a single one of my pm's yet, I ended up just callin him.

[Z28]

That LS3 sounds like a deal.

[cole]

thats what i was thinking

sounds like you got a formula to do some butthurting...cant wait to see it all done

[EVOVIIIjohn]

^ Liar!

Your right i weigh 150 :)

135 BIACHES!!!!! :woot:

[CamaroKITT]

^ Liar!

Your right i weigh 150 :)

135 BIACHES!!!!! :woot:

im 120 beeyatches :lost:

[Hillbilly]

Why not keep the 4.11s?

[toom1h]

You don't think that'd be over kill?

[Thunder]

overkill isn't the right term... more like 4.11s w/ 3 spd and a hefty shot of nitrous = run out of gear with stockish powerband?
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[toom1h]

I believed it to be the right term. Overkill meaning too much gearing. Like you said run out of the stockish powerband.

[spoonraker]

it would be fine NA but on nitrous i'd definitely run out of gear

[spoonraker]

I went to remove my front sway bar and it looks like the previous owner failed miserably trying to put it back on at some point...

Should be simple. There's two mounts with two bolts each, the endlinks were already disconnected...I get to the last bolt and this is what I find...

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I guess now I have to remove not just the swaybar and bushings, but the entire driver's side mount along with it at the same time. Or maybe I'll just cut the bar out.

[Slikrider]

You really tore that interior up........you really don't care about the looks of this thing or what?

Should at least fix the handle to the center console, the rip in the leather, and take those hideous exhaust tips off.

[spoonraker]

I bought the car in a rather haggard state. The tear in the seat, messed up center console, busted kick panel, shitty gauge pod install, and scary fuel pump install were all the previous owner's work. And apparently he had some fun with the sway bar as well. I plan on fixing or replacing the seat, fixing the center console, and replacing most of the interior that I took out after I'm done cleaning up the wiring and installing the nitrous. The only thing on the interior that I'll keep out is the rear seat backrest.

[Slikrider]

Ya, that sounds like a good idea. A nasty inside just isn't appealing to me, no matter how fast the car is.

[spoonraker]

Well yeah, that's the part you see all the time while driving it. The seat really bothers me, but it's just not a priority right now with me being so close to having the nitrous ready. I've got a lot of good drivetrain parts on the way and then all I'll need is some safety switches for the nitrous to work.

I'm thinking of ditching the radio and fabricating a switch panel for the nitrous in it's place. All the speakers are blown to **** and you can hardly hear anything over the engine anyway. Or maybe I'll just buy a cheap single din head unit and use the cubby hole that all the radio install kits for formely 1.5/2 DIN stereo cars come with to build a panel over.

[Z28]

Well yeah, that's the part you see all the time while driving it. The seat really bothers me, but it's just not a priority right now with me being so close to having the nitrous ready. I've got a lot of good drivetrain parts on the way and then all I'll need is some safety switches for the nitrous to work.

I'm thinking of ditching the radio and fabricating a switch panel for the nitrous in it's place. All the speakers are blown to **** and you can hardly hear anything over the engine anyway. Or maybe I'll just buy a cheap single din head unit and use the cubby hole that all the radio install kits for formely 1.5/2 DIN stereo cars come with to build a panel over.

Did it come with the monsoon stock? Replacing the speakers in a monsoon system will do wonders, the stock subs are ****. I'm sure the sound system isn't your priority either though...

[01SOMZ28]

I bought the car in a rather haggard state. The tear in the seat, messed up center console, busted kick panel, shitty gauge pod install, and scary fuel pump install were all the previous owner's work. And apparently he had some fun with the sway bar as well. I plan on fixing or replacing the seat, fixing the center console, and replacing most of the interior that I took out after I'm done cleaning up the wiring and installing the nitrous. The only thing on the interior that I'll keep out is the rear seat backrest.

i noticed all those things and a few others at the car show. Then i couldn't understand why you were giving purplemx3 all that crap about how much he was asking for his CLEAN/MINT '00 camaro but yet you paid what you did for that camaro in such a "haggard state" even though it has low miles, but it looks like it has 120K+...i don't know, it just didn't make sence to me. just sayin.

[Grey03GT]

I'd leave the radio in and just get one of these.
http://www.gaugeplates.com/Images/ls1.jpg

[spoonraker]

I bought the car in a rather haggard state. The tear in the seat, messed up center console, busted kick panel, shitty gauge pod install, and scary fuel pump install were all the previous owner's work. And apparently he had some fun with the sway bar as well. I plan on fixing or replacing the seat, fixing the center console, and replacing most of the interior that I took out after I'm done cleaning up the wiring and installing the nitrous. The only thing on the interior that I'll keep out is the rear seat backrest.

i noticed all those things and a few others at the car show. Then i couldn't understand why you were giving purplemx3 all that crap about how much he was asking for his CLEAN/MINT '00 camaro but yet you paid what you did for that camaro in such a "haggard state" even though it has low miles, but it looks like it has 120K+...i don't know, it just didn't make sence to me. just sayin.

My car has only cosmetic issues. These are cheap and easy fixes. It's still the most desireable year with great options, low miles, and decent mods. $7k for my car is a steal even if it needs a few hundred bucks into the interior and a good buffing. It may look a bit tired but it still ran down your shiny car didn't it? :) Im not trying to say anybody's car is worth a certain amount, but they just don't pull the same prices they used to and a lot of people still think they're made of gold. There's a reason why there are so many around, I wasn't even looking for one this one was just so cheap I decided to go for it.

Anyway, I know my car is no show candidate, I never thought I had a chance at a trophy I just wanted to have fun and donate some money to the cause. I have my priorities in order on my car, and making it show worthy isn't at the top of the list. I paid for what I wanted and nothing I didn't need.

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[spoonraker]

I'd leave the radio in and just get one of these.
http://www.gaugeplates.com/Images/ls1.jpg

Got a link to where I could buy that? That would be perfect. The flap that covers that spot is broken on my car anyway. It covers the hole but it just kinda sits there and won't lift up :lol:

*edit* found it http://gaugeplates.com/gm.php

$115 ouch, but it does save a lot of work...hrm...although I did want to put a bottle pressure gauge inside the car. When I get to that point we'll see, but thanks for the idea.

[srt-4_uk]

I know a cobalt guy that does great detail work for cheap.

[Grey03GT]

I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to make something up from fiberglass or ABS plastic.

[Z28]

I don't mind your car spoon, ** the haters

[spoonraker]

Remote nitrous bottle opener just got here.

[Lepa]

:lost:

[01SOMZ28]

I bought the car in a rather haggard state. The tear in the seat, messed up center console, busted kick panel, shitty gauge pod install, and scary fuel pump install were all the previous owner's work. And apparently he had some fun with the sway bar as well. I plan on fixing or replacing the seat, fixing the center console, and replacing most of the interior that I took out after I'm done cleaning up the wiring and installing the nitrous. The only thing on the interior that I'll keep out is the rear seat backrest.

i noticed all those things and a few others at the car show. Then i couldn't understand why you were giving purplemx3 all that crap about how much he was asking for his CLEAN/MINT '00 camaro but yet you paid what you did for that camaro in such a "haggard state" even though it has low miles, but it looks like it has 120K+...i don't know, it just didn't make sence to me. just sayin.

My car has only cosmetic issues. These are cheap and easy fixes. It's still the most desireable year with great options, low miles, and decent mods. $7k for my car is a steal even if it needs a few hundred bucks into the interior and a good buffing. It may look a bit tired but it still ran down your shiny car didn't it? :) Im not trying to say anybody's car is worth a certain amount, but they just don't pull the same prices they used to and a lot of people still think they're made of gold. There's a reason why there are so many around, I wasn't even looking for one this one was just so cheap I decided to go for it.

Anyway, I know my car is no show candidate, I never thought I had a chance at a trophy I just wanted to have fun and donate some money to the cause. I have my priorities in order on my car, and making it show worthy isn't at the top of the list. I paid for what I wanted and nothing I didn't need.

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Well let me get my cam installed then wei'll run'em again so then its a bit more fair since you have a cam and mine is stock (even though its only a hotcam it still helped you get me by 1.5 cars max) Maybe we could even run'em again a couple more times to see if i can pull on you with a good launch.

oh, and i wasn't hatin on your car...i just remembered the arguement between you and purplemx3 with both of the camaros.

[spoonraker]

I have a cam, but you have better bolt ons. You actually make more power than I do. I think the real difference in our race was my stall.

[Z28]

I wanna race you both...

[01SOMZ28]

I wanna race you both...

mkay :)

[HINZ28]

I wanna race you both...

im next

[Z28]

YES :fistpump:

[spoonraker]

im down

[spoonraker]

For those of you wondering why my rear end isn't here yet, the guy for some reason isn't able to cash my money order. He said every place keeps telling him that they've been seeing a lot of fraudulent money orders and they won't cash it. He's gonna try a credit union tomorrow, but if that fails he's just gonna mail the money orders back, I'll get my money back, and we'll have to do a wire transfer or something. I wish the guy just had PayPal. Oh well..it's still comin, just delayed. I'm still hoping it's here by this weekend.

[turbodaytona87]

Money order from where?

[srt-4_uk]

Nigeria. Please send the remainder back to me please

[spoonraker]

Western union actually.

[spoonraker]

Well I finally got some time to finish up removing the front sway bar. When the sway bar finally dropped out, a really rusty old wrench fell out with it. It's not mine, my tools are all brand new and accounted for. uh... :hmm:

I think my next free mod will be removing the AIR system, since right now I'm just waiting for parts and waitin for a paycheck to come in.

[Z28]

You might wanna search your cars for drugs too, just a precaution...this guy sounds like a winner

[Lepa]

most ls1 owners are winners. congrats on gettin the sway bar off finally lol.

[Z28]

am I?

[Lepa]

of course.

[toom1h]

Weight reduction mod.. just sayin.
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[spoonraker]

Yes I just performed a high speed weight reduction mod. Video to come soon!

[Z28]

sick

[spoonraker]

Ok well as you all know I destroyed my drivers side t top. I acquired a replacement, but I didn't want to carry around another key just to lock that one t top so I swapped the lock from the broken one to the new one.

If anybody ever needs to do this, here's how.

Time required : 10 minutes
Tools required : Phillips screwdriver, small flat head screwdriver or a knife or anything that you can pry tiny retainer clips out with.

-Remove the screws that hold the trim on, there's 1 on each side...

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-Remove the retainer clip or whatever it's called that holds the handle on

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-When you go to pull off the trim make sure you detach this area otherwise you could break the plastic and it won't reseat properly

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-here's what the guts should look like (only hopefully yours are less rusty)

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-remove the retaining clip from under the lock. This one was very easy, I just used the screwdriver handle to pull it out.

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-pull the lock out

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-Put the new lock in place (it will only go in one way, so don't worry you can't screw this up), and reassemble everything in the opposite order you took it apart.

[Z28]

nice write up

[spoonraker]

Hopefully nobody else ever has to use it. At least not for the same reason as I did :lol:

[spoonraker]

Trans decided it didn't want to shift into 3rd the last couple days, but it looks like it was just low on trans fluid. I'll add some tomorrow and hope for the best.

Also I finally got all my payment problems figured out for my damn rear end. Assuming that my second round of money orders don't get lost in the mail I should have some goodies coming pretty soon.

-Strange 12 bolt, 35 spline axles, 4.10 gears (will change to 3.70), LCA relocation brackets
-Midwest Chassis and Performance adjustable panhard bar
-MWCP adjustable LCAs
-MWCP adjustable chassis mount tq arm

[Z28]

nice

[srt-4_uk]

das alot os suspension parts for the car without alot of slicks

[spoonraker]

I got a sweet deal on all of this, couldn't pass it up. Otherwise I probably would have done just the rear and used the suspension money to get slicks. I spent a lot less than it costs for a new Strange 12 bolt for this whole package, and all the suspension is brand new still in box, and the rear is straight out of a shop from a rebuild.

[srt-4_uk]

Andy vs. Ahmad proved suspension+decent tires=no suspension+slicks

[Thunder]

he makes more power than me... its not like we're the same car with those tradeoffs
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[spoonraker]

Who says i'm not gonna run slicks? This is one of those long term worklogs. Besides, Andy vs. Ahmad didn't really prove anything. Andy's car rarely launches like it should for some reason, they both jumped and let off on that race, and they were pretty much even anyway.

[spoonraker]

Trans fluid top off fixed the third gear problem. The 4l60e lives on! I'll be going to MAM tomorrow to get some 1/8 mile times, should be fun to compare tomorrows result to next year when i've got the nitrous hooked up along with a bunch of suspension and slicks.

[Lepa]

badass, im glad it was just the fluid.

[Z28]

son of a *****, i can't ****in go

[spoonraker]

yeah it was really low, I put a quart and a half in :o

[Z28]

jeez, where the **** did it go?

[toom1h]

Tranny got thirsty.
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[srt-4_uk]

badass, im glad it was just the fluid.

[Z28]

That probably wasn't very good for the poor 4l60e

[srt-4_uk]

My motor was fine after being 1.5 qts low on oil and I only filled it back to the min line. Surely anything connected to god's motor can take being 1.5 qts low.

[Z28]

no, 1/2 a quart can **** it up, straight from frank @ performabuilt

[Lepa]

My motor was fine after being 1.5 qts low on oil and I only filled it back to the min line. Surely anything connected to god's motor can take being 1.5 qts low.

Trannys are a different concept lol.

[Burntz]

yea, they look like women, but have *****'s.

[EVOVIIIjohn]

^truth...

[spoonraker]

Just ran an 8.33 1/8th mile in my first pass at the track ever. Im a noob and didn't know where to pick up my timeslip lol, so no trap speed or anything, but now I know where to go so...more details to come later I guess. Just my luck the one with no slip will probably be my quickest :ohnoes:

[Z28]

lol

[spoonraker]

Still have both ttops by the way :lol: Locked to save them from my own retardedness

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[Z28]

**** happens,

i say that a lot

[spoonraker]

Alrighty...I am officially done at the track tonight.

Here's the mod list one more time for tonight.

Hotcam (poopy cam)
Mac Mid-length headers (blah)
Lid
Tubular mild steel LCAs
Tubular mild steel diamond-style subframe connectors
Some sort aftermarket panhard bar (gonna take a guess and say tubular mild steel)
3800 stall converter with a trans cooler
Little bit of weight reduction (back seat rest, front sway bar, spare tire/jack)
street tires
my 350 lb fat ass behind the wheel

...drumroll...

8.245 @ 87.08 (2.032 60')

Finally beat my 8.33 on the very last run of the night, and yes I have a slip for this one.

I was getting slower every run and finally I figured out that I just wasn't doing a good enough job of knocking the sand off my tires on the burnouts. Once I did that and figured out a good launch speed I started getting back to the 8.30s quick. My last runs were 8.451, 8.406, 8.393 and finally I got the 8.245

I'm happy with the car. It got better mileage on the trip out than I thought, ran hard all night, and made it home just fine wasn't even all that hot.

[Z28]

nice

[regal403]

12.87, nice.
http://www.geocities.com/allstangs/Page.htm

[regal403]

I mean 12.94465, nice.
http://www.fastnuf.com/QMC.html

[regal403]

I mean 13.053484, nice.
http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/calc_formulas_page.htm

[regal403]

I mean 12.77975, nice.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-results/992977-convert-1-8-mile-1-4-mile-times-estimate.html

[01SOMZ28]

^ :lol:

[Thunder]

rofl@ joe. nice times spoon. Makes me think my car is a little quicker than my best of 8.45
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[spoonraker]

I got as good of a launch as I think is possible on those street tires. Nose came up and I gave it just enough gas to stay on the edge of traction but keep the power on so it didn't come down. Figure you can probably take a tenth or two off with a really good launch on slicks, but who knows how much you'll lose because of the power difference. You shoulda come :(

[spoonraker]

I don't know what it is with me and shipping, but I always have issues or delays it seems like.

The guy I bought all my rear and suspension from works on an oil pipeline and he got called out of town so the stuff hasn't shipped yet. All the suspension and the rear end is sitting in a speed shop in springfield missouri. The good news is that he's going to have the shop send out all the suspension pieces for free right away, I'll probably have them friday (not holding my breath). I was gonna wait and ship it all together, but it's been so long I just wanna see somethin before I go nuts.

The rear hasn't shipped yet because he is out of crates after shipping his motor and transmission, and with him being out of town just hasn't been able to get it crated up. Anyway, he's refunding me $200 (I only paid $100 for shipping), and I'm going to just call the shop directly and work with them to get it sent out.

So yeah, kind of a shitty update, but I still do have a rear end and a bunch of suspension "on the way"...

[cole]

damn, that sucks...i hate it when people aren't on top of shipping

[Z28]

Cool..

[turbovertrx7]

Alrighty...I am officially done at the track tonight.

Here's the mod list one more time for tonight.

Hotcam (poopy cam)
Mac Mid-length headers (blah)
Lid
Tubular mild steel LCAs
Tubular mild steel diamond-style subframe connectors
Some sort aftermarket panhard bar (gonna take a guess and say tubular mild steel)
3800 stall converter with a trans cooler
Little bit of weight reduction (back seat rest, front sway bar, spare tire/jack)
street tires
my 350 lb fat ass behind the wheel

...drumroll...

8.245 @ 87.08 (2.032 60')

Finally beat my 8.33 on the very last run of the night, and yes I have a slip for this one.

I was getting slower every run and finally I figured out that I just wasn't doing a good enough job of knocking the sand off my tires on the burnouts. Once I did that and figured out a good launch speed I started getting back to the 8.30s quick. My last runs were 8.451, 8.406, 8.393 and finally I got the 8.245

I'm happy with the car. It got better mileage on the trip out than I thought, ran hard all night, and made it home just fine wasn't even all that hot.


You seriously took your sway bar out for weight reduction??? You must be a moron!

[Z28]

Nope, it's just you

[Thunder]

Alrighty...I am officially done at the track tonight.

Here's the mod list one more time for tonight.

Hotcam (poopy cam)
Mac Mid-length headers (blah)
Lid
Tubular mild steel LCAs
Tubular mild steel diamond-style subframe connectors
Some sort aftermarket panhard bar (gonna take a guess and say tubular mild steel)
3800 stall converter with a trans cooler
Little bit of weight reduction (back seat rest, front sway bar, spare tire/jack)
street tires
my 350 lb fat ass behind the wheel

...drumroll...

8.245 @ 87.08 (2.032 60')

Finally beat my 8.33 on the very last run of the night, and yes I have a slip for this one.

I was getting slower every run and finally I figured out that I just wasn't doing a good enough job of knocking the sand off my tires on the burnouts. Once I did that and figured out a good launch speed I started getting back to the 8.30s quick. My last runs were 8.451, 8.406, 8.393 and finally I got the 8.245

I'm happy with the car. It got better mileage on the trip out than I thought, ran hard all night, and made it home just fine wasn't even all that hot.


You seriously took your sway bar out for weight reduction??? You must be a moron!

its a common track proven modification... not just for weight, but for weight transfer....

[spoonraker]

Alrighty...I am officially done at the track tonight.

Here's the mod list one more time for tonight.

Hotcam (poopy cam)
Mac Mid-length headers (blah)
Lid
Tubular mild steel LCAs
Tubular mild steel diamond-style subframe connectors
Some sort aftermarket panhard bar (gonna take a guess and say tubular mild steel)
3800 stall converter with a trans cooler
Little bit of weight reduction (back seat rest, front sway bar, spare tire/jack)
street tires
my 350 lb fat ass behind the wheel

...drumroll...

8.245 @ 87.08 (2.032 60')

Finally beat my 8.33 on the very last run of the night, and yes I have a slip for this one.

I was getting slower every run and finally I figured out that I just wasn't doing a good enough job of knocking the sand off my tires on the burnouts. Once I did that and figured out a good launch speed I started getting back to the 8.30s quick. My last runs were 8.451, 8.406, 8.393 and finally I got the 8.245

I'm happy with the car. It got better mileage on the trip out than I thought, ran hard all night, and made it home just fine wasn't even all that hot.


You seriously took your sway bar out for weight reduction??? You must be a moron!

The primary reason for removing the front sway bar was to help weight transfer on launches, the weight reduction is just a bonus.

Everybody says it ruins the handling, but it's a freakin drag car, what do I care? Plus an fbody with no front sway bar still handles just as well as my daily driver Saturn does with everything stock.

...or did we miss some yellow text?

[Preston]

Alrighty...I am officially done at the track tonight.

Here's the mod list one more time for tonight.

Hotcam (poopy cam)
Mac Mid-length headers (blah)
Lid
Tubular mild steel LCAs
Tubular mild steel diamond-style subframe connectors
Some sort aftermarket panhard bar (gonna take a guess and say tubular mild steel)
3800 stall converter with a trans cooler
Little bit of weight reduction (back seat rest, front sway bar, spare tire/jack)
street tires
my 350 lb fat ass behind the wheel

...drumroll...

8.245 @ 87.08 (2.032 60')

Finally beat my 8.33 on the very last run of the night, and yes I have a slip for this one.

I was getting slower every run and finally I figured out that I just wasn't doing a good enough job of knocking the sand off my tires on the burnouts. Once I did that and figured out a good launch speed I started getting back to the 8.30s quick. My last runs were 8.451, 8.406, 8.393 and finally I got the 8.245

I'm happy with the car. It got better mileage on the trip out than I thought, ran hard all night, and made it home just fine wasn't even all that hot.


You seriously took your sway bar out for weight reduction??? You must be a moron!

The primary reason for removing the front sway bar was to help weight transfer on launches, the weight reduction is just a bonus.

Everybody says it ruins the handling, but it's a freakin drag car, what do I care? Plus an fbody with no front sway bar still handles just as well as my daily driver Saturn does with everything stock.

...or did we miss some yellow text?


No... he's just fkin dumb.

[cole]

^^^

[spoonraker]

OMG UPDATE:

Parts are here!!!!

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-05/1.jpg


http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-05/2.jpg


http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-05/3.jpg

[spoonraker]

Those of you paying close attention will notice that one of the control arms has no rod-ends on it :joe:

It's always somethin with me :lol:. I called midwest chassis and they're only about $10 a piece, so I'll be ordering them tomorrow.

Also I desperately need to paint the tq arm and rear. Probably just gonna go with black.

[Lt4TransAm]

LMK if you wanna sell the torque arm

[4sfed]

Why don't you just go to Speedway for some heims?

[Jeffo]

^x2

[spoonraker]

Why don't you just go to Speedway for some heims?

Eh I dunno never really thought to go there

Oh well I'm not gonna have the parts painted and ready to go on for a couple days anyway so by the time the new stuff from MWCP gets shipped out here it'll probably be perfect timing

I stared on everything today. I got it all taken apart and the torque arm is back to metal now. I'm gonna tackle sanding the rest of the mounts and the rear end tomorrow :ohnoes:

[spoonraker]

hmmmm...TH400 reverse manual valve body and transbrake, just put in a new case and rebuilt with 0 miles since then. also includes a lokar flexible dipstick, for $650 shipped...

I know it'll kill more power than a 350, but damn thats cheap...should i?

[Kelvin]

you should.

[Burntz]

do it, you'll never have to worry about your trans again. (most likely, knock on wood)

[spoonraker]

Started on the painting, should finish up this weekend with the rear end. Hopefully get it all installed this weekend too.

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-10/1.jpg

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-10/2.jpg

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-10/3.jpg

[CamaroKITT]

nice

[350-10]

Will it be ready for winter drifting?

[spoonraker]

it'll be ready for winter hibernating

[350-10]

fail

[transam00ws6]

fail

would if my car wasn't already put away....

[350-10]

you can't do that ^^^^ I got it back out...

[BOORAH]

That's what she said.

[01SOMZ28]

you can't do that ^^^^ I got it back out...

You ***... "i can't go to KCIR because i put my car away for winter even though its been 70* the last 4 days and its to far to get it"

[350-10]

My trannnnzzz went out on the Alero.

[01SOMZ28]

My trannnnzzz went out on the Alero.

explains why it was only $500...

[350-10]

heard that...but new trans will be in by the end of the week for $250

[transam00ws6]

are we post whoring in here too?

[01SOMZ28]

are we post whoring in here too?

no.

[transam00ws6]

ok bye study hard!

[spoonraker]

god damnit, it's always something....

...so I finished up the suspension and was starting to prep the rear end for paint when I noticed a few things.

here is a nice dent/crack in the aluminum diff cover

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-11/1.jpg

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-11/2.jpg

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-11/3.jpg

I also discovered it was leaking a bit, here is the source of the leak...

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-11/4.jpg

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-11/5.jpg

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-11/6.jpg

here is the cap sitting next to the hole I pulled it off, anybody know what this is?

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/camaro-worklog/2009-11-11/7.jpg

[spoonraker]

Ok I jumped the gun a bit. The diff cover was already dented, I just forgot about Brad telling me that when I bought it, it's been 3 months after all.

And the little brass cap was actually damaged by me when I went over it with a wire brush. I guess it was just temporary to cover the ABS sensor, which I'm not gonna use anyway. So it's probably a good thing I busted it, because if it broke that easily with a wire brush it would definitely have broken open bouncing around under the car. Now I just need to buy a bolt to seal off that hole.

All is well.

[andrew69_04]

Ok I jumped the gun a bit. The diff cover was already dented, I just forgot about Brad telling me that when I bought it, it's been 3 months after all.

And the little brass cap was actually damaged by me when I went over it with a wire brush. I guess it was just temporary to cover the ABS sensor, which I'm not gonna use anyway. So it's probably a good thing I busted it, because if it broke that easily with a wire brush it would definitely have broken open bouncing around under the car. Now I just need to buy a bolt to seal off that hole.

All is well.

that brass cap is where a plastic breather is suppsed to be. i wouldnt cap off that hole.

[spoonraker]

So it's supposed to have a hole in it right there?

[andrew69_04]

So it's supposed to have a hole in it right there?

yeah. i think you can buy aftermarket brass screwin breathers to put in that hole if you dont have one of the factory plastic ones.

but yes, that hole is supposed to be there

[schovil69]

Yup! You need a breather.

[spoonraker]

is there anything special about the ''breather'' or should i just put the old cap with a hole in it back in?

[schovil69]

I think the old cap will allow dirt/water to get in there. I would get a new one.

[spoonraker]

Where would I get something like that locally?

btw I went to a hardware store to see what size it is, it's not actually a bolt size it's an 1/8'' pipe fitting threading

[schovil69]

Where would I get something like that locally?

btw I went to a hardware store to see what size it is, it's not actually a bolt size it's an 1/8'' pipe fitting threading

Hmmm....Du Teau? Defrees? I really don't know for sure. I would just start calling around.

[spoonraker]

I think I'm cursed or something. Midwest Chassis had to machine new bushings for my suspension since they ran out, so I finally just got them today despite ordering them weeks ago. However, they forgot to ship me the rod ends for my LCAs, so I'm still waiting on those.

[spoonraker]

Sold the 12-bolt. I figured since I'm not going to get to run the car until winter is done, and I still needed to put a lot more money into the 12-bolt to get the right gears and a new diff cover, and finally because I sold it for more than I paid for it, why not? Now I'll just save up over winter and get a new 9'' like I planned on originally.

I bought 01SOMs NX nitrous kit and accessory package, thanks for the great deal!

NX wet kit, I'll be spraying a 150 shot.

I also took advantage of black friday sales and bought an HSW MicroEDGE nitrous controller. Has a built in window switch, TPS/WOT switch, AFR switch, and a ton more features. Really a great unit, especially for $120.

So here's where I'm at so far...

Have:
-SFCs, LCAs, panhard bar, and tq arm
-Complete nitrous kit with all safety accessories required

Will buy before Spring:
-Wheels/slicks
-9'' Rear

I'm hoping to have enough money to get a cage before Spring too, so it'll be legal at the track. If not, I won't be able to spray.

[spoonraker]

Oh yeah and I still might get that TH400 I mentioned earlier, just kinda waiting to here something about it.

[Klug23]

MWC 9"

[swaggy853]

Sold the 12-bolt. I figured since I'm not going to get to run the car until winter is done, and I still needed to put a lot more money into the 12-bolt to get the right gears and a new diff cover, and finally because I sold it for more than I paid for it, why not? Now I'll just save up over winter and get a new 9'' like I planned on originally.

I bought 01SOMs NX nitrous kit and accessory package, thanks for the great deal!

NX wet kit, I'll be spraying a 150 shot.

I also took advantage of black friday sales and bought an HSW MicroEDGE nitrous controller. Has a built in window switch, TPS/WOT switch, AFR switch, and a ton more features. Really a great unit, especially for $120.

So here's where I'm at so far...

Have:
-SFCs, LCAs, panhard bar, and tq arm
-Complete nitrous kit with all safety accessories required

Will buy before Spring:
-Wheels/slicks
-9'' Rear

I'm hoping to have enough money to get a cage before Spring too, so it'll be legal at the track. If not, I won't be able to spray.

you dont need no silly cage. Pats mustang runs 10s with no cage. just tint the windows dark and talk nice to the track guys.

[spoonraker]

Wow that thing doesnt have a cage at all? Thats the yellow turbo one right?

Either way i still want one for as quick as i hope to go, not just for regulations but for my own peace of mind

[swaggy853]

Wow that thing doesnt have a cage at all? Thats the yellow turbo one right?

Either way i still want one for as quick as i hope to go, not just for regulations but for my own peace of mind

thats correct.

[spoonraker]

He must give good blowjobs, that thing definitely needs a cage.

[swaggy853]

naw

[Yngvar]

c0z car doesn't have a cage ether

[spoonraker]

i care why?

[toom1h]

Yeah Spoon wants a cage in his care, so he can go as fast as possible and be SAFE.

[spoonraker]

Update : I bought that TH400 I mentioned earlier. Freshly rebuilt in a new case, reverse manual valve body, trans brake, includes a lokar flexible dipstick.

Not being able to even work on the car during the winter sucks. I've got 99% of the nitrous stuff I need sitting in my closet and now I'll have a transmission sitting around all winter too.

[srt-4_uk]

what nitrous stuff are you missing? If it is fittings and ****, I can hook you up.

[spoonraker]

what nitrous stuff are you missing? If it is fittings and ****, I can hook you up.

The nitrous kit and the accessory kit are both still new in box so hopefully i have all the fittings and crap.

I think the only thing I'm missing is a WOT/TPS switch, but the MicroEdge controller might have one built in, i'll have to read the manual. Also, I would like to put in a wideband, it's certainly not necessary just something I want to do.

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[anti venom]

weak!

[Z28]

I hope you got the long dipstick, also which stall size/brand you get?

[spoonraker]

Haven't picked out a stall yet and I'm not really thinking about it at this point. Just gonna save up money over winter and worry about it when it's warm enough to work outside.

[Z28]

You guys act like its cold there or something...

[regal403]

You guys act like its cold there or something...

It's been a bit chilly recently. Should be around freezing today and tomorrow, which really isn't too bad.

[cody6.0]

It's been a bit chilly recently. Should be around freezing today and tomorrow, which really isn't too bad.

Funny how when it's 80 degrees and the temp dips into the 50's people say its cold yet now we consider 30's not that bad.

[Z28]

30s aint bad

[spoonraker]

Nah it's really not that bad right now, if I actually shoveled my driveway and put down de-icer then maybe I would consider pulling the car out to work on it, but it's not like I'm gonna be sprayin the nitrous over the winter anyway so what's the point?

[regal403]

Don't you have a garage, Paul?

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[spoonraker]

Don't you have a garage, Paul?

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Yeah, but it's only a single stall, there's no room to actually work on the car in there.

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[regal403]

That sucks.

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[spoonraker]

I bought a Hurst quarterstick shifter for the TH400. It's the pistol grip version with a built in trans brake button.

[toom1h]

Why isn't the tranny in yet?

[spoonraker]

Why isn't the tranny in yet?

cause i dont have the tranny yet. even if i did i need a converter, flexplate, crossmember, and other necessary things.

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[toom1h]

The stock xmember doesn't work for the th400?.... gay.
Okay, so why don't you have a converter, flexplate, crossmember and the other necessary things yet. I'd rather work on your car then either of mine.

[Thunder]

Sell you my built th350

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[toom1h]

Sell you my built th350

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How much?

[Thunder]

1200, 1300 with the shifter
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[toom1h]

Didn't you pay 1200 for it?

[Thunder]

No, I paid 1500.
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[spoonraker]

Sell you my built th350

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i already bought an equally built th400 with the same shifter for a third of the price sowwy

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[Z28]

It's too cold to work on cars DJ! We all can't afford heated garages like you.

[ali]

It's too cold to work on cars DJ! We all can't afford heated garages like you.

**** i payed 20 bucks for mine and it works great

[toom1h]

I don't have a heated garage, I just A don't have anything to do to the mustang at this time, and B no room to put the jeep in yet so I have to wait to start on that.

[Z28]

It's too cold to work on cars DJ! We all can't afford heated garages like you.

**** i payed 20 bucks for mine and it works great

You got lucky and found a used one?

[ali]

It's too cold to work on cars DJ! We all can't afford heated garages like you.

**** i payed 20 bucks for mine and it works great

You got lucky and found a used one?

yeah it used

[spoonraker]

Ok time to bump this thread...

Well it's finally starting to get nice enough to drive the Camaro again. I've decided that I'm completely changing the direction of the Camaro. It's no longer going to be an all out drag car. I'm going to keep it with a complete interior, keeping the stereo, and all that. I already sold the TH400 and I'm just going to stick with the 4L60E, it should hold up fine to the power I'll be making. I'm going to stick with the 10 bolt until it pops, I think with the auto it'll last quite a while and I like the idea of keeping the $2500 in my pocket as long as I can. I'm still going to install all the suspension pieces I have and I'm still going to install the nitrous. I'll be going drag radials instead of slicks.

The basic plan is to make it a nice clean drivable car that is still pretty quick. I just kind of a realized that having a super serious drag car just isn't within my means right now. I don't want to buy a truck and trailer, and I don't want to spend the $6k+ that I would have to in order to get the car where I wanted it. I'll be doing lots of small cosmetic stuff because the car is admittedly a bit rough right now.

Upcoming:
-Tune (needs it baaaaad)
-Electric cutout
-Suspension upgrades finally being installed
-Misc cosmetic stuff
-Nitrous install

[KyleJ]

So you realized what everyone told you when you made the towing/dd thread?

[spoonraker]

Basically. I got right to the brink of dumping every freaking dime I had into the car all at once and still not finishing it. At that point I realized it doesn't sound so fun anymore.

[01SOMZ28]

You're still going to need get that 4L60E built to handle the nitrous. Mine lasted about 3 weeks.

[srt-4_uk]

The shop built Z28's 4l60. You can ask him how it is doing and how much they charged.

[Z28]

When do I get my LCAs?

[spoonraker]

When do I get my LCAs?
Unless the weather turns shitty I plan on installing some of the suspension this weekend, probably Saturday. Hell maybe today after work. That would mean your lcas will be available after that.

How's your built 4l60e doing and how much did it cost? Pm if you want

[Z28]

I will probably attend the spring game. I'll try and get in touch with you then.

[01SOMZ28]

I know you didn't ask me but i put $1,100 in my 4L60E. If i could find the paper work for it i'd list all the things that were put into it. My friend that did it guaranteed it to hold at least 600 hp.

[Klug23]

I know you didn't ask me but i put $1,100 in my 4L60E. If i could find the paper work for it i'd list all the things that were put into it. My friend that did it guaranteed it to hold at least 600 hp.

Thats about the going rate. I have right around that in mine.

[Cobra Commander]

Why do you still have MAM window chalk on the car from August 21st, 2009?

[Klug23]

Why do you still have MAM window chalk on the car from August 21st, 2009?

It's a race car duh

[Cobra Commander]

Oh. ****.

[spoonraker]

Why do you still have MAM window chalk on the car from August 21st, 2009?

It didn't come off when I went through the car wash and I don't care enough about it to scrape it off. Next time I wash it I'll be sure to scrape it off just for you.

[96speedZ28]

He wants everyone to know its fast and its a race car!

[spoonraker]

That too. Mostly that.

[Cobra Commander]

:lol:

[spoonraker]

I just walked past the camaro and remembered this thread so I pulled out a credit card and gave it a few seconds of scraping. **** hardly came off at all even after being rained on. I thing I'm gonna have to break out the ice scraper and a hose to get it off at this point lol

[Cobra Commander]

lolol

[spoonraker]

I got my new lid and bellows today. I'm going to clean the MAF and air filter before putting it all back together. Also I'll probably change the plugs soon. I've also started on the suspension, I'll have the LCAs on today at least, and the panhard bar and tq arm are ready to go on next.

Also I finally ordered a set of wheels. I went with the racestar industries drag star wheel. LINK (http://www.racestarindustries.com/catalog.html) 15x10 rear and 15x3.75 fronts. MT ET Street DRs on the back and not sure yet what I'm gonna put on the front. If I can't find a cheap alternative like a VW tire or something I'll just buy the MT frontrunners.

If anybody is looking for a good street/strip wheel for an fbody I would suggest racestar industries. They are by FAR the cheapest direct fit (no grinding required) wheel for an fbody. For all four wheels, lugs, washers, and stems and shipping it was $699. When I called race star the owner gave me the number to one of his vendors in maryland that gave me a discount, probably saved me about $130 over the direct price.

oh and brook I still haven't completely scraped off the number on the windshield. **** is hard to get off but I'm working through it slowly with a credit card whenever I put gas in the car :lol:

[JesterMX6]

or spray some windex on it and get a razor blade. it'll take all of 5 seconds

[JesterMX6]

crap now i have to unsubscribe from this thread so it doesnt keep showing up in my usercp :lol:

[spoonraker]

Update:

http://imgur.com/PEdSz.jpg

Still needs centercaps put on, and I need to adjust the LCAs to center the wheels a bit better, but I think it's a major improvement.

btw I highly recommend big red tire for all your tire mounting needs, they did a great job for me. I told them the back tires might not fit because of the bumpstops and wheel well and if they rubbed to just take them off and put the stockers back on so I can drive home and mess with it. Instead, they pulled out an air hammer and cutoff wheel and chopped the bumpstops off for me and helped me give the suspension a really quick adjustment just to make them fit in there, only charged me $10 for all that extra work.

http://imgur.com/ihl32.jpg

And Brook, two of the three numbers are still on the windshield.

[cole]

nice, and another fan of big red tire here

[sn95.0]

Big red tire is awsome but you payed someone to put your wheels on for you?

[spoonraker]

Big red tire is awsome but you payed someone to put your wheels on for you?

Uh... I paid them to put the tires on the rims and balance them all, bolting them to the car is included for free.

[Z28]

Big red tire is awsome but you payed someone to put your wheels on for you?

Uh... I paid them to put the tires on the rims and balance them all, bolting them to the car is included for free.

I had firestone do the same thing....I don't see the problem.

[Burntz]

dont you know? real men say **** off and bolt them up themselves. Puts hair on your chest

[KyleJ]

Looks good, I'm looking forward to seeing it run!

[Klug23]

spoon #1, what have you ran at the track so far with this car? I am to lazy to read.

[Z28]

8.5?

[spoonraker]

Only run 1/8th mile so far, best run was an 8.24 @ 97 MPH. That was with 235 street tires, LCAs and SFCs were the only suspension mods, and the lid/maf/bellow was still a complete hack job before I fixed it (dyno'd 337/345).

[Z28]

Only run 1/8th mile so far, best run was an 8.24 @ 97 MPH. That was with 235 street tires, LCAs and SFCs were the only suspension mods, and the lid/maf/bellow was still a complete hack job before I fixed it (dyno'd 337/345).

97...wow