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supersayianjim
27th April 2009, 09:57 PM
hey, this is for all you mechanicaly inclined guys. i scored a manual for the complete engine break down of my motor. problem is all the torque sequences are in KG( my torque wrench is in ft-lbs.) IS there any way to translate KG to FT-LBS??

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jaceface
27th April 2009, 10:07 PM
assuming you mean KG-m... multiply it by 7.23301. i couldnt see your picture so yea.


or just do an internet search

Kelvin
27th April 2009, 10:16 PM
or just search scr

http://starcityracing.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=22477

StuDdERinGP
27th April 2009, 10:42 PM
technically no.

kg is a mass

kg-m is a... mass meter?

ft-lbs is a torque.

the equivalent metric torque would be N-m (Newton-meter) or (kg*m^2)/(s^2)

now google it.

LNKMK8
27th April 2009, 10:45 PM
Wow, nice work log!

Thomas

C.J.
28th April 2009, 12:14 AM
yes you need to look for Newton Meter (Nm)

sweatygrundle
28th April 2009, 12:32 AM
i have a little program to convert anything into another unit of mesurement and it lists KGf-m kilogram force meter. if there is an easy way to post this program somewhere i'll share it with everyone. I got it from my uncle about 4 years ago, lost it and spent quite a while looking for it again online and all i could find where programs to buy. but luckaly i found it buiried in some files on my laptop.

turbodaytona87
28th April 2009, 07:06 AM
Look at your pics before you post them. Those are completely unreadable...

jaceface
28th April 2009, 07:52 AM
technically no.

kg is a mass

kg-m is a... mass meter?

ft-lbs is a torque.

the equivalent metric torque would be N-m (Newton-meter) or (kg*m^2)/(s^2)

now google it.

kg-m is kilogram force meter

StuDdERinGP
28th April 2009, 10:44 AM
technically yes.

the correct metric unit of mass is the kg. if you also use kg to mean force, well now you can see my point. this is why multi-million dollar mars rovers cant even land. (well technically it was way simpler than that, but just trying to make a point.)

lb is the same way, but should be noted as lbm and lbf. a scale (or torque wrench, in this instance) measures things in lbf, (lbs force), not mass. Though often used interchangeably, it is a poor practice.

StuDdERinGP
28th April 2009, 10:44 AM
and how many torque wrenches are in kgf-m?

C.J.
28th April 2009, 04:22 PM
technically no.

kg is a mass

kg-m is a... mass meter?

ft-lbs is a torque.

the equivalent metric torque would be N-m (Newton-meter) or (kg*m^2)/(s^2)

now google it.

kg-m is kilogram force meter

you wouldn't pass physics with that answer :lol:

jaceface
28th April 2009, 07:06 PM
i dont see your point..... kgf-m is a unit of measurement plenty of manufacturers use for a torque specification. you want examples come over and i can show you plenty of manuals

this is what you get for posting a question on an internet forum, a bunch of people that want to make themselves feel smarter than you are...

StuDdERinGP
28th April 2009, 08:00 PM
since i dont believe you, i researched a bit further...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram-force

he kilogram-force has never been a part of the International System of Units (SI), which was introduced in 1960. The SI unit of force is the newton

you musa gots sum ol' boks thur.

edit: Prior to this, the unit was widely used in much of the world; it is still in use for some purposes. The thrust of a rocket engine, for example, was measured in kilograms-force in 1940s Germany, in the Soviet Union (where it remained the primary unit for thrust in the Russian space program until at least the late 1980s), and it is still used today in China and sometimes by the European Space Agency.

It is also used for tension of bicycle spokes, for torque measured in "meter-kilograms", for pressure in kilograms per square centimeter, for the draw weight of bows in archery, and to define the "metric horsepower" (PS) as 75 metre-kiloponds per second.[1]

The gram-force and kilogram-force were never well-defined units until the CGPM adopted a standard acceleration of gravity of 980.665 cm/s² for this purpose in 1901, though they had been used in low-precision measurements of force before that time.

StuDdERinGP
28th April 2009, 08:01 PM
i dont see your point..... kgf-m is a unit of measurement plenty of manufacturers use for a torque specification. you want examples come over and i can show you plenty of manuals

this is what you get for posting a question on an internet forum, a bunch of people that want to make themselves feel smarter than you are...

and not to brag, but most likely i am.

jaceface
28th April 2009, 08:33 PM
wow you can copy and paste the wrong information...


kil⋅o⋅gram-me⋅ter   /ˈkɪləˌgrĉmˈmitər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kil-uh-gram-mee-ter] Show IPA
–noun Physics. a meter-kilogram-second unit of work or energy, equal to the work done by a force of one kilogram when its point of application moves through a distance of one meter in the direction of the force; approximately 7.2 foot-pounds.


kil⋅o⋅gram-force   /ˈkɪləˌgrĉmˈfɔrs, -ˈfoʊrs/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kil-uh-gram-fawrs, -fohrs] Show IPA
–noun Physics. a meter-kilogram-second unit of force, equal to the force that produces an acceleration equal to the acceleration of gravity, when acting on a mass of one kilogram. Abbreviation: kgf



look mom, i can copy and paste too

jaceface
28th April 2009, 08:48 PM
i just looked through one of the service manuals for a 2007 zx6r and they still have that torque spec in there.... now i know thats 2 years ago but its not that old.

StuDdERinGP
29th April 2009, 12:39 PM
tell you what. you go pick up your kg-m torque wrench, and you keep tightening those bolts. but dont be mad if i start writing your service manuals in N-m instead. :bored1:

supersayianjim
29th April 2009, 12:47 PM
thanks guys, but i found a this site. very helpful..

http://www.convertunits.com/from/kilogram+meter/to/foot-pound+force