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Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 02:02 PM
I am thining of running some nitrous is the cobra again. This time I am not going to drill a hole in the intake elbow of the eaton. I would just get a plate kit. I found one that is adjustable 75-150.
I usually run wet kits, but I am debating that I might go dry so that I am not compressing the fuel in the supercharger and if it does go boom might not be as bad.
I will run the 150 shot if I do it, any idea's???
Johnny
3rd January 2009, 02:11 PM
yes,
dont run a dry shot
4sfed
3rd January 2009, 02:15 PM
Just run more boost
David
3rd January 2009, 02:16 PM
^^ i like this idea.
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 02:31 PM
jon, i can run a wet shot i suppose!!! makes it less of a HEATON and more of a eaton.
4sfed
3rd January 2009, 02:35 PM
More boost with methanol injection.:)
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 02:46 PM
I am already going to run more boost people.... 16-18 PSI...+150 shot.
I am going to run the 2.70-2.75 upper pulley and I an going to get the 2# lower. should put me between 16-18PSI.
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 02:46 PM
I'm just going to need someone to tune it, SCT has a programmer that can allow for a 100 shot...
srt-4_uk
3rd January 2009, 02:55 PM
Why is a nitrous thread in the F/I section?
Meth FTW.
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 03:44 PM
maybe I am retarded and blind but I didn't see a N20 catagory
srt-4_uk
3rd January 2009, 03:49 PM
I was just playing. It is always a huge debate when people say that N2O is/is not a form of forced induction.
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 03:54 PM
Oh my fault... I have forced induction anyways so I can use that as my crutch
David
3rd January 2009, 03:57 PM
dont' you have a KB on top?
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 04:04 PM
The KB was removed when the car was going to get a turbo set-up, but that was backed off and a eaton went back on, althought it is getting ported here soon and welded, and balanced. I am looking for about 600 hp with the juice and 750 TQ to the wheels on a mustang dyno.
Johnny
3rd January 2009, 04:05 PM
KB is LONG gone.
and he cannot run anymore than the 16-18lbs of boost on the stock blower as that is worthless. Hell, even just more than 16lbs is worthless.
They are called Heatons for a reason. And Josh knows this.
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 04:08 PM
KB is LONG gone.
and he cannot run anymore than the 16-18lbs of boost on the stock blower as that is worthless. Hell, even just more than 16lbs is worthless.
They are called Heatons for a reason. And Josh knows this.
which is why I am choosing to just install a $600.00 nitrous kit instead of buying another KB for 3500.00
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 04:09 PM
I sold the car at husker that the KB was installed on.... got 25K for it cash...
2001 cobra 84,000 miles!!! book is like 11-12,000
swaggy853
3rd January 2009, 04:15 PM
More boost with methanol injection.:)
if you dont like this idea its because you are uninformed.
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 04:44 PM
The eaton is only good to 18PSI people.... the meth does a good job of cooling and what not, but I think the gain is higher with N2O, hp/tq numbers I think will be larger.
I may be wrong I have not dabbled in meth yet... give me some input
srt-4_uk
3rd January 2009, 05:32 PM
Nitrous>Meth. I have both and and I saw a MUCH bigger gain from the 75 wet shot than the direct port water meth.
Johnny
3rd January 2009, 06:11 PM
The eaton is only good to 18PSI people.... the meth does a good job of cooling and what not, but I think the gain is higher with N2O, hp/tq numbers I think will be larger.
I may be wrong I have not dabbled in meth yet... give me some input
this is what people are missing. they seem to not understand that even with meth the eaton is pure and simple out of efficiency. Just can't spin much faster than that and do anything but ruin itself
Josh WFO
3rd January 2009, 06:14 PM
Nitrous>Meth. I have both and and I saw a MUCH bigger gain from the 75 wet shot than the direct port water meth.
Thanks what I was thinking. Although the nitrous is a bit more volitile I think. More chances of problems, but the payoff is larger!!!
You can do some things to the supercharger but not much!!!
4sfed
5th January 2009, 08:09 AM
The KB was removed when the car was going to get a turbo set-up, but that was backed off and a eaton went back on, althought it is getting ported here soon and welded, and balanced. I am looking for about 600 hp with the juice and 750 TQ to the wheels on a mustang dyno.
Not going to happen.. Unless you spray more than 150.
Josh WFO
5th January 2009, 10:24 AM
it will happen... Its going to take some finageling....
I should be over 400 now and I believe I am with the exhaust uncorked and the intake yadda yadda.
After porting and balancing of the blow it can put out 18-19 well. which will put me around 480 ish I think. I will probably run 100 oct., but not sure. the 150 shot is make the intake alot more dense allowing the charger to do even more work. I should see alittle better gains for the shot then the raw # given. The other thing is alot of the kits used the 150 as at the crank power, I am going to use a N2O express kit or something like it where its to the wheels.
Long tubes and intake on these cars free up alot of pony's
*if I have to I will buy cams*
GTPpower
7th January 2009, 03:29 PM
I've heard a rumor that running a wet shot through the blower will sometimes strip the coating off the rotors. I never had any problem with it though.
I've never ran meth, but I've heard that it's a great way to strip the coating off.
srt-4_uk
7th January 2009, 04:12 PM
Is there any fact to that statement or just GTP hearsay.
Josh WFO
7th January 2009, 04:20 PM
I have heard the same rumblings....
GTPpower
7th January 2009, 04:33 PM
Is there any fact to that statement or just GTP hearsay.
they both use eatons dumbitch
srt-4_uk
7th January 2009, 04:45 PM
I asked if there was proof to it eating the coating or are you just passing off info with no fact behind it. Learn to read faggot.
GTPpower
7th January 2009, 05:23 PM
So why didn't you say it like that the first time then.....Instead you feel the need to make fun of my car.
srt-4_uk
7th January 2009, 05:26 PM
How did I make fun of YOUR car?
GTPpower
7th January 2009, 05:35 PM
Is there any fact to that statement or just GTP hearsay.
srt-4_uk
7th January 2009, 05:37 PM
I just figured you heard that on a GTP board.
I am not saying that it isnt true, just wanting to see some facts.
Josh WFO
7th January 2009, 05:46 PM
Wow... I got my money on GTP he seems more firey
Johnny
7th January 2009, 06:21 PM
he does seem to think he has a huge e-*****, BUT, I am gona go with the srt4,
GTPpower
8th January 2009, 08:12 AM
he does seem to think he has a huge e-*****, BUT, I am gona go with the srt4,
it's obviously smaller than yours
Johnny
9th January 2009, 12:39 PM
no mine is tiny, I just generally call it like I see it. And considering the a lot of your posts go, I am not the only one that see's it like this.
GTPpower
9th January 2009, 02:03 PM
You forgot to mention how you follow me around and criticize everything I say.
Josh WFO
9th January 2009, 02:11 PM
2x1 handicap match ohh **** son!!!!
millertime
9th January 2009, 02:20 PM
meth is the way too go, hands down, increases motor efficiency, drastic cooling abilities, plus it's a bit less for the REALLY good meth kits, i posted a right up about it in a rotary a while ago. granted, it's for a rotary, but if it increases efficiency and reliability of one, then imagine what it does for something that isn't a stereotypical ticking time bomb.
srt-4_uk
9th January 2009, 02:26 PM
so without using either, you tell him meth is the way to go?
Josh WFO
9th January 2009, 02:46 PM
meth is the way too go, hands down, increases motor efficiency, drastic cooling abilities, plus it's a bit less for the REALLY good meth kits, i posted a right up about it in a rotary a while ago. granted, it's for a rotary, but if it increases efficiency and reliability of one, then imagine what it does for something that isn't a stereotypical ticking time bomb.
Okay I guess here is the problem you guys are not getting!!!
I know the meth kit will cool the air temp, so does the N20... the meth kit will raise the octaine rating (thats a plus) but doesn't give the HP gain that nitrous does.
The Eaton is not efficient past 18 PSI... flat out just isn't unless I send it out to be redone. 1500 later it good for 22PSI (they throw a ton of heat)
I want to know which will give me more power to the wheels!!! no question hands down which one.
GTPpower
9th January 2009, 03:13 PM
Nitrous.....it's not even close. Like you said, without changing anything, the higher the octane, the slower you go.
Sally
13th January 2009, 10:34 AM
I want to know which will give me more power to the wheels!!! no question hands down which one.
I did a lot of looking for info on this as I want to run spary too. The wet kits run higher HP rates then the drys ones do.
Call last call racing. I bought a few things from them and they match and beat prices from anywhere.
Or go with this one from lethal
http://www.lethalperformance.com/03-04-svt-cobra-nitrous-methanol-injection-nitrous-kits-nos-c-16_271_559_2719/nos-03-04-cobra-ei-nitrous-wet-kit-35-125-hp-adjustable-p-496
http://www.lastcallracing.com/
858) 527-2917
Hope I can help
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