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bigchevy1987
15th December 2008, 08:41 PM
I need a radiator, and a carb and a intake!!!!

Hillbilly
15th December 2008, 08:47 PM
just buy a k30 and throw urs away.

82355
15th December 2008, 09:53 PM
Way to be specific.

Martin

bigchevy1987
16th December 2008, 06:32 AM
just buy a k30 and throw urs away.
lmao why the hell would i do that?

bigchevy1987
16th December 2008, 06:39 AM
28 7/8" x 21" x 1 1/4" with ac auto trans......check the size on the 78 hillbilly it might work.

82355
16th December 2008, 09:11 AM
Just go to O'Reilly's and get a pricd on the one for a 1987 K30 454 with an automatic. You can also get the manual version and run an external cooler in front of the condenser. Also see what Speedway has in aluminum in a comparable size.

82355
16th December 2008, 09:14 AM
Wait a minute, you have a 1987, WHAT THE **** DO YOU NEED A CARB AND AN INTAKE FOR???

regal403
16th December 2008, 09:26 AM
Posted via Mobile Device He wants to make it fast and easy to work on, duh.

82355
16th December 2008, 12:00 PM
He apparently has no interest in offroading.

Martin

Hillbilly
16th December 2008, 12:07 PM
just buy a k30 and throw urs away.
lmao why the hell would i do that?

cause it would be a better place to start. What you have is a truck with **** everything. You would be many steps ahead to go k30 or at least k20.

burnoutnova
16th December 2008, 07:34 PM
I might have a used one from a 77 big block suburban... no carb but i do have a couple cast intakes

BOWERS
17th December 2008, 12:36 AM
Ughh, I could probably get you a new radiator for decent price ass clown.

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 06:42 AM
Ughh, I could probably get you a new radiator for decent price ass clown.

you never answer your phone butt puppet

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 06:46 AM
He apparently has no interest in offroading.

Martin

going from "injected" to carb. because there are more options when it comes to heads and performance parts on the 87. and how in the hell would going carb. make me not want to do offroading? you can do just as much offroading with a carb as you can with a "injected" motor. also with the "injectors" i can only get one different size for the stupid set up it has on it..... one after market kinda gay if you ask me!!

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 06:48 AM
just buy a k30 and throw urs away.
lmao why the hell would i do that?

cause it would be a better place to start. What you have is a truck with **** everything. You would be many steps ahead to go k30 or at least k20.

actually my scotsdale already has some after market parts. it has a 4:11 limited slip rear end and a matching front end.. so as far as front end and rear end go im sitting okay. As for what i know all of our trucks have the same transfer case.... so whats **** on my truck?

82355
17th December 2008, 07:04 AM
As for what i know all of our trucks have the same transfer case.... so whats **** on my truck?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Martin

82355
17th December 2008, 07:04 AM
going from "injected" to carb. because there are more options when it comes to heads and performance parts on the 87. and how in the hell would going carb. make me not want to do offroading? you can do just as much offroading with a carb as you can with a "injected" motor. also with the "injectors" i can only get one different size for the stupid set up it has on it..... one after market kinda gay if you ask me!!

YOU DO NOT WANT TO REMOVE THE EFI.

Martin

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 07:10 AM
As for what i know all of our trucks have the same transfer case.... so whats **** on my truck?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Martin

"my case is out of a silverado"

BOWERS
17th December 2008, 07:13 AM
:rolleye:

82355
17th December 2008, 07:16 AM
As for what i know all of our trucks have the same transfer case.... so whats **** on my truck?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Martin

"my case is out of a silverado"

You do realize, "Custom", "Custom Deluxe", "Bonaza", "Scottsdale", and "Silverado" are all trim levels right??? They have nothing to do with the drivetrain.

Martin

82355
17th December 2008, 07:18 AM
My '82 Scottsdale has a better transfer case than my 1976 Silverado had. . . . . . .

Martin

regal403
17th December 2008, 07:59 AM
Posted via Mobile Device I don't know hardly anything about these pickups, but don't K10s usually have weak front and rear ends?

82355
17th December 2008, 08:02 AM
On top of the fact that removing the EFI is borderline retarded, you are going to need more than an intake and a carburetor. You will also need a mechanical distributor. If you are stupid enough to bastardize that poor truck and throw a carb on top of that engine, you aren't going to make any additional power. The heads and cam are your weak point.

82355
17th December 2008, 08:06 AM
Technically his is a V10 Joe, but yeah, he has GM 8.5" ten bolts front and rear. He is planning on replacing those I believe. He also has a TH7OOR4 and an NP208.

regal403
17th December 2008, 08:08 AM
Posted via Mobile Device You know what I meant.

Hillbilly
17th December 2008, 08:15 AM
kid once again your lack of knowledge suprises me. 1/2 3/4 and 1 ton all have different equipment and that changes thought the years as well. You have a 350 tbi (200hp) it will run upside down and carbs will not. This is why many of us talk about propane. Your transmission is most likely a 700 r4. Ok in strength somewhat light. The transfer case is a 208. I have never broken mine and the military used them but still not as strong as a 205. Your axles are weak suck 10 bolts. 33" tires are the limit for me maybe 35" if all you do is play in the mud and not really wheel. I have broken both of mine. the limited slip you talk about is a G80 or Gov loc. Gov locs are junk and will break the rear axle if you spin the tire to hard before it engauges it will blow up. Like martin said silverado, scottsdale etc are all just interior. I have a 84 K10 with a 350/700r4/208/10 bolt/10bolt 4.11s truetrac/detroit on 33s and a 73 K20 with 454/th350/205/44/14ff 4.11s fully locked on 37s. I broke my lockouts on the K20 this weekend. I would buy a k30 or at lets dana 60 and 14ff.

Hillbilly
17th December 2008, 08:17 AM
Technically his is a V10 Joe, but yeah, he has GM 10.5" ten bolts front and rear. He is planning on replacing those I believe. He also has a TH7OOR4 and an NP208.

Ha Ha martins wrong 8.5" 10 bolts silly.

82355
17th December 2008, 09:10 AM
**** me. I meant 8.5" ten bolt.

fmstruck
17th December 2008, 09:17 AM
Martin, you are wasting your time. He's not smart enough to understand the questions he's asking, much less the answers.

Hillbilly
17th December 2008, 09:36 AM
hey I was just thinking my engine is out of a silverado so it must be badass.

Lepa
17th December 2008, 10:36 AM
Thank you bowers for bringing such a fun guy onto the board, I lub to read funnies.

82355
17th December 2008, 02:12 PM
I don't know how to quote on the mobile theme, but in response to Jake, I know, but it makes me sad to see someone hack up a nice 1987 Chevy. Poor kid doesn't realize what a gem he has . . . . . .

Hillbilly
17th December 2008, 03:28 PM
its just a k10 still way more common than the jewel that a 87 k30 would be. I would give jake and dougs left nut to have one.

fmstruck
17th December 2008, 06:05 PM
I don't know how to quote on the mobile theme, but in response to Jake, I know, but it makes me sad to see someone hack up a nice 1987 Chevy. Poor kid doesn't realize what a gem he has . . . . . .

I know.

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 06:41 PM
As for what i know all of our trucks have the same transfer case.... so whats **** on my truck?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Martin

"my case is out of a silverado"

You do realize, "Custom", "Custom Deluxe", "Bonaza", "Scottsdale", and "Silverado" are all trim levels right??? They have nothing to do with the drivetrain.

Martin

see i knew i was right why the hell should i change trucks then???
i think i have a pretty good base to start with.
O yeah radiator problem is fixed... and why do you think i should keep the EFI i am open to your oppinion

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 06:50 PM
jesus christ i ask you ****ing people simple questions,
simple little questions, I wanted to switch EFI to Carb because i have heads that won't work with my intake and i know i have to get a different distributer and i do realize that it would still run upside down with EFI however i don't plan on being upside down anytime soon.

I however came on here for opinions and some help all i have gotten is a bunch of assholes who know some **** about vehicles chewing me out for asking for help.

Thanks too all of you.

supeRtunermatt
17th December 2008, 06:55 PM
:kysmiley:

fmstruck
17th December 2008, 07:49 PM
As for what i know all of our trucks have the same transfer case.... so whats **** on my truck?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Martin

"my case is out of a silverado"

You do realize, "Custom", "Custom Deluxe", "Bonaza", "Scottsdale", and "Silverado" are all trim levels right??? They have nothing to do with the drivetrain.

Martin

see i knew i was right why the hell should i change trucks then???
i think i have a pretty good base to start with.
O yeah radiator problem is fixed... and why do you think i should keep the EFI i am open to your oppinion

:sillyme:

Fyrtruck
17th December 2008, 07:50 PM
I've got a 76 GMC Sierra Grande 383 stroker/carbed/th350/np205/corporate 14 rear 4:11 LS/dana 44 front 4:11 lockers/35 tires/4inch suspension lift


Is that a good combination guys?

swaggy853
17th December 2008, 07:52 PM
they are telling you that a 3/4 ton is better than a half ton, the trim level is meaningless. your axles are ****. also: efi>carb no question, for any purpose.

regal403
17th December 2008, 07:52 PM
I've got a 76 GMC Sierra Grande 383 stroker/carbed/th350/np205/corporate 14 rear 4:11 LS/dana 44 front 4:11 lockers/35 tires/4inch suspension lift


Is that a good combination guys?

No, that's too useful. We can't make fun of you for that.

fmstruck
17th December 2008, 08:00 PM
I've got a 76 GMC Sierra Grande 383 stroker/carbed/th350/np205/corporate 14 rear 4:11 LS/dana 44 front 4:11 lockers/35 tires/4inch suspension lift


Is that a good combination guys?

Decent combo. The only thing that sucks is the Limited Slip rear. Only because no one makes a locker to fit that carrier. No big deal though. Open carriers are pretty easy to find if you get serious enough to require a rear locker.

82355
17th December 2008, 08:18 PM
they are telling you that a 3/4 ton is better than a half ton, the trim level is meaningless. your axles are ****. also: efi>carb no question, for any purpose.

Even the Honda dork gets it.

Martin

82355
17th December 2008, 08:31 PM
As for what i know all of our trucks have the same transfer case.... so whats **** on my truck?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Martin

"my case is out of a silverado"

You do realize, "Custom", "Custom Deluxe", "Bonaza", "Scottsdale", and "Silverado" are all trim levels right??? They have nothing to do with the drivetrain.

Martin

see i knew i was right why the hell should i change trucks then???
i think i have a pretty good base to start with.
O yeah radiator problem is fixed... and why do you think i should keep the EFI i am open to your oppinion



What were you right about? We don't all have the same transfer case. There are three different transfer cases that came stock in 1973 - 1987(1991) Chevrolet pickups.

First there is the NP205, it is the most desirable. It has a cast iron case and is a gear driven transfer case (no chain). It has 4 High, 2 High, Neutral, and 4 Low selections.

Then there is the NP203. It is a cast iron case, full time four wheel drive, chain driven transfer case. It is stronger than an NP208, but not as convenient. It has 4 High Lock, 4 High, Neutral, 4 Low, and 4 Low Lock selections.

You have the NP208. It is an aluminum case, part time four wheel drive, chain driven transfer case. People say they are weak, but they aren't that bad. You are already aware that you have 4 High, 2 High, Neutral, and 4 Low selections.

As for the EFI, I have a carbureted 454 in my '82 K30 (Scottsdale). Las weekend we were at Tuttle Creek, and my main problem was the carb flooding or starving for fuel, causing the engine to stall. Now some of that can be blamed on the poor tuning of the carburetor, but there is no replacement for EFI. It is MUCH nicer on an offroad vehicle. If you are building an all out drag car, sure, swap out the EFI for a carb, but not in this application.


Then nine minutes later you write this??? You didn't even give us time to answer the question. I was working on my truck when you wrote that. You should really start a work log, then we could give you some advice (possibly be friendlier as well).

jesus christ i ask you ****ing people simple questions,
simple little questions, I wanted to switch EFI to Carb because i have heads that won't work with my intake and i know i have to get a different distributer and i do realize that it would still run upside down with EFI however i don't plan on being upside down anytime soon.

I however came on here for opinions and some help all i have gotten is a bunch of assholes who know some **** about vehicles chewing me out for asking for help.

Thanks too all of you.

As for the intake, it will work, you just need to align the center four holes. Not a big deal. I wouldn't worry about your engine currently. That is the least of your concerns if you are actually serious about making that truck into a capable offroad rig.

Go ahead and start a work log and ask questions, we will me more than happy to help you out.

Martin

82355
17th December 2008, 08:33 PM
I've got a 76 GMC Sierra Grande 383 stroker/carbed/th350/np205/corporate 14 rear 4:11 LS/dana 44 front 4:11 lockers/35 tires/4inch suspension lift


Is that a good combination guys?

Seems alright, though I am still leery about the front 44. What lockouts do you have? Do they bolt on with 3/8' bolts, or are they splined with small allen wrench head machine screws? As for taking the AC of, that was a horrible idea, as the others in this thread would probably agree.

Martin

Hillbilly
17th December 2008, 08:59 PM
I know you feel like we are picking on you but just like swapping a v8 into a v6 camaro you would be farther ahead to start with a 3/4 or 1 ton. efi does work better off road, it doesn't die and stumble and burp. Funny thing is most people would like a 1/2 ton so yours is worth something but a 1 ton is 100 times stonger. Thats why I built a 3/4ton cause I keep breaking my 1/2 ton that is very similar to yours.

Hillbilly
17th December 2008, 09:01 PM
I've got a 76 GMC Sierra Grande 383 stroker/carbed/th350/np205/corporate 14 rear 4:11 LS/dana 44 front 4:11 lockers/35 tires/4inch suspension lift


Is that a good combination guys?

Seems alright, though I am still leery about the front 44. What lockouts do you have? Do they bolt on with 3/8' bolts, or are they splined with small allen wrench head machine screws? As for taking the AC of, that was a horrible idea, as the others in this thread would probably agree.

Martin

he should have the new style hubs. The 44 is ok on 35s and will be less likely to break with a open front. Leave the a/c and make it work. Only thing cooler than a awsome trail truck is ome with a fully conditioned cab.

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 09:45 PM
alright i understand what your saying hillbilly and martin, the EFI good idea carb bad idea, how the hell do i get my intake to line up with the heads i got? we tried it didn't work. any advice on how i could make them fit?

o yes and i have that stupid intank fuel pump how can i bypass or can i? i asked around nobody seemed to have a clue.

and as far as me putting blocks anywhere near my truck you must be out of your damn mind!!!

any advice on which brand suspension lift is the best? been doing some research on that not really finding the "BEST" other than the ones with nitrogen shocks being ****ing ridiculisly expensive!!!!!

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 09:47 PM
and i found a DANA 44 axle with 4:56 gears they want 150$ worth it or no?

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 09:52 PM
o yeah and thanks shaggy for getting me up to speed....lol

82355
17th December 2008, 09:54 PM
Leave the tank in the pump, there is nothing wrong with it. Why do you need an intake if you have EFI? What intake do you have? You should really start a Work Log, so we can get this out of the Classifieds? I really think you should toss what ever intake you have on Craiglist and stay stock. You aren't going to gain much. Like I said earlier, your biggest problems with that engine are your heads and the cam. On top of that, that stock engine if fine. There are many other things you should worry about first.

Martin

82355
17th December 2008, 09:55 PM
As far as the Dana 44, it isn't much better than the 10 bolt you already have. A 14 bolt, full floater for the rear is what you definitely want, and does that Dana come with one? Because you have 4.11's currently, right?

Martin

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 09:58 PM
yes 4:11's no dont come with one.

bigchevy1987
17th December 2008, 09:59 PM
hey how do i start a work log? a thread in what catagory?

swaggy853
17th December 2008, 10:01 PM
tech >> work logs

82355
17th December 2008, 10:06 PM
http://omaha.craigslist.org/pts/959633011.html

Not very detailed description.

Martin

82355
17th December 2008, 10:08 PM
I asked David, just to transfer this one.

Martin

82355
17th December 2008, 10:09 PM
http://omaha.craigslist.org/pts/959327959.html

A Dana 70, with 4.56's from a dually.

Jake, you know much about those?

Martin

fmstruck
17th December 2008, 10:12 PM
Too wide.

fmstruck
17th December 2008, 10:17 PM
They widened those axles so the inside dual runs in the same track as the front wheel. So they are equally as wide as a 60 front from a dually if that makes any sense.

82355
17th December 2008, 11:03 PM
Oh, I am aware of that, but would it really matter once you got it lifted? I was just wondering if they were much better or worse than a 14 Full Floater, or pretty much equal. I use to own one, so I know how wide they are.

Martin

Lepa
18th December 2008, 08:41 AM
I know you feel like we are picking on you but just like swapping a v8 into a v6 camaro you would be farther ahead to start with a 3/4 or 1 ton. efi does work better off road, it doesn't die and stumble and burp. Funny thing is most people would like a 1/2 ton so yours is worth something but a 1 ton is 100 times stonger. Thats why I built a 3/4ton cause I keep breaking my 1/2 ton that is very similar to yours.



That **** is easy, seriously.

Hillbilly
18th December 2008, 09:24 AM
not a 4th gen with a 3400.

fmstruck
19th December 2008, 10:44 PM
Oh, I am aware of that, but would it really matter once you got it lifted? I was just wondering if they were much better or worse than a 14 Full Floater, or pretty much equal. I use to own one, so I know how wide they are.

Martin

Probably just as tough or tougher, but way harder to work on. The nice thing about a 14 is the backlash adjusts with nuts on the side and the pinion carrier comes out the front and is shimmed like a 9" Ford. In other words, very easy to set up.

fmstruck
19th December 2008, 10:56 PM
Upon further review a 14 might be tougher due to it's straddle mount pinion design. Dana 70 is not straddle mount.

82355
20th December 2008, 03:29 AM
So why did Chevrolet use them on duallies? Just because there was an existing design, instead of altering their own 14 bolt? Just curious.

Martin

fmstruck
20th December 2008, 08:45 AM
I'm going to say those three little words that most men dread but I have gotten used to saying since I've been married for 12 years.

























I don't know.

82355
20th December 2008, 12:49 PM
I'm going to say those three little words that most men dread but I have gotten used to saying since I've been married for 12 years.

Idon't know.

Yeah, I don't either, just curious really.

Martin

regal403
20th December 2008, 05:34 PM
I'm going to say those three little words that most men dread but I have gotten used to saying since I've been married for 12 years.

























I don't know.

Red Green reference?

fmstruck
20th December 2008, 08:34 PM
Keep your stick on the ice.

Hillbilly
20th December 2008, 09:14 PM
I am a man
and I can change
if I have too
I guess.