so who won the debate???

[Bobby Light]

good points? bad points?

[brando1985]

Biden. Palin just rambled on about her energy background, over and over and over again. She also said Maverick about 10 times too many. Even though she'd hot as ****, I'd like to punch her in her swamp.

[Kelvin]

any mention of iceman or goose?

[c0z]

Is this a serious question? Palin is a joke.

[c0z]

but hot nonetheless

[Bobby Light]

i didnt watch it so that is why im asking.

[David]

palin

[spoonraker]

Biden answered the questions, and threw in the occasional jab at the opponent.

Palin tried really hard to avoid answering the questions, while throwing out as many campaign catch phrases as she can. Energy background, John McCain is a Maverick, we're gonna put the government back on the people's side, etc. etc.

[Chevelle7D2]

if I was Palin I'd stay at home all day staring at my ass and playing with my tits.

[regal403]

Posted via Mobile Device At the same time?

[Bobby Light]

palin

I have watched 5 of 10 on youtube...+1 for palin

[Alley]

Palin. She's more likeable and relates more to the average joe. Biden is you basic generic old man political machine.

[Bobby Light]

Palin. She's more likeable and relates more to the average joe. Biden is you basic generic old man political machine.

+1 rep

[coop]

honest no-biased opinion - biden by a slim margin

i think it would have been more of a spread if biden would have shown less restraint and went after some of the mistakes palin had

[spoonraker]

I agree with coop. If he would have called her out when she was talking about Afghanistan, that debate wouldn't have been close.

She called McKiernan "McClellan" serveral times, and when she said Biden was wrong about McKiernan not supporting their strategies in Afghanistan she was also dead wrong.

Since one of her main bragging points is all the foreign policy experience she has, you'd think she's get her facts right.

[Bobby Light]

is it just me or does joe biden say "JOE BIDEN" like bob dole said "BOB DOLE"\

i find that humorus.

[Bobby Light]

I agree with coop. If he would have called her out when she was talking about Afghanistan, that debate wouldn't have been close.

She called McKiernan "McClellan" serveral times, and when she said Biden was wrong about McKiernan not supporting their strategies in Afghanistan she was also dead wrong.

Since one of her main bragging points is all the foreign policy experience she has, you'd think she's get her facts right.

i just listened to that part, and he did call her on it...said that patreaus? was the complete opposite of what she said.

[Bobby Light]

seems like that palin is callin him out on more things than he is...

[Bobby Light]

biden looks like a stereotypical politician, especially when he smiles.

[spoonraker]

I wish he would have called her out on getting his name wrong though. Plus after he spoke she replied with "Actually 'McClellan' does support the surge balh blah" and I'm not sure, did he ever come back with a response after that?

[coop]

he is the most qualified person out of all 4 involved....he showed quite a bit of retraint...the best is when he called out mccains "maverickisms"

[spoonraker]

If he would have made a goose/iceman joke it would have been over.

[Bobby Light]

I wish he would have called her out on getting his name wrong though. Plus after he spoke she replied with "Actually 'McClellan' does support the surge balh blah" and I'm not sure, did he ever come back with a response after that?

wow and no one has fumbled a name before...thats a good reason to not vote for her...

joe biden said "go into home depot with me and start asking people about comparing mccains foreign policy with the current foreign policy"

he must be really detached because i doubt you could find one person in home depot that knows a goddamn thing about it.

[Bobby Light]

If he would have made a goose/iceman joke it would have been over.

i hope your not serious.

[spoonraker]

I never said that nobody fumbles names or that it was a deciding factor for me, I just said I wish he called her out on it, since her foreign policy is something she prides herself on, it would have been a good way to swing a debate.

Also I like how you said vote for "her"

[Bobby Light]

they are both very good "political dancers"

[spoonraker]

Spencer, the reason I don't like Palin is because she has no idea what she's talking about. She's obviously just trying to remember as much of what her debate coaches told her, and every time she gets off track it just came back to the same old "Maverick", "Put the Government back on the people's side", bs

She seems way in over her head and unable to have any sort of opinion of her own.

[Bobby Light]

I never said that nobody fumbles names or that it was a deciding factor for me, I just said I wish he called her out on it, since her foreign policy is something she prides herself on, it would have been a good way to swing a debate.

Also I like how you said vote for "her"

sorry the debate was between him and her.

[Bobby Light]

Spencer, the reason I don't like Palin is because she has no idea what she's talking about. She's obviously just trying to remember as much of what her debate coaches told her, and every time she gets off track it just came back to the same old "Maverick", "Put the Government back on the people's side", bs

She seems way in over her head and unable to have any sort of opinion of her own.

did you even watch the debate?

[spoonraker]

Yes I watched it. She did much better last night than she did with some of her other recent attempts at answering questions, however she still seems very much in over her head.

It was obvious that there were times she just didn't know what to say, so she went back to the same old "Maverick" "Govt on the people side" default reply, which is better than some of her previous attempts, but still not an answer to the question.

[spoonraker]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2909496470_d751e8a3dc.jpg?v=0

[c0z]

For once I completely agree with spoon. Yes, Palin is perfect for "relating" to middle class people, but that's about it. Somebody that watched this cannot honestly say she even came CLOSE to winning this debate, she barely answered ANY of the questions! She was spouting off random bs plain and simple.

[Chevelle7D2]

I just want to bang her.

[AWeb80]

I didn't watch it....but listened to the last few minutes.

I'm guessing Palin won because there are some, lets say, liberal coworkers of mine, who take every chance they get to jab at me if McCain/Palin mess up somehow. I don't really care anyways. I don't really even care for Mccain. But seeing as they haven't said JACK about the debate to me (when they generally would be all over me)I'm assuming even they know Palin won.

Just me $.02

[coop]

no pundants on any station said that palin won.....so i guess all the pundants dont know anything

[AWeb80]

of course Olbermann won't say she won.

[coop]

not even fox news said she won....they said it was a toss up.....all other stations of course said that biden won

[c0z]

and of course you'll say she did win, even though you have no ****ing clue whatsoever :lol: (towards aweb)

[AWeb80]

and of course you'll say she did win, even though you have no ****ing clue whatsoever :lol: (towards aweb)

of course I don't know......that is why i said....

I didn't watch it....but listened to the last few minutes.

I'm guessing Palin won because there are some, lets say, liberal coworkers of mine, who take every chance they get to jab at me if McCain/Palin mess up somehow. I don't really care anyways. I don't really even care for Mccain. But seeing as they haven't said JACK about the debate to me (when they generally would be all over me)I'm assuming even they know Palin won.

[coop]

unbiased opinion = she did not win....i was hoping for her to do well because I was very down on this choice for VP.....i hoped she was chosen for other reason than her vagina....

[cole]

did somebody say vagina?

[82355]

Palin would lose in a debate with a brick wall.

[cole]

her accent made me change the channel

[coop]

i like the mom off bobby's world

[Bobby Light]

i like the mom off bobby's world

dont cha kno

[dave]

This country is kind of a joke....

[Bobby Light]

go somewheres else...100 bucks gets you a passport.

[AWeb80]

I've got $100

[dave]

go somewheres else...100 bucks gets you a passport.

You're a little bit retarded aren't you?

[Bobby Light]

you said the country is a joke, move somewhere else for a couple years.

[dave]

Don't get me wrong, I know you aren't an idiot, but it seems there is a part of your brain that doesn't function at the same speed as everyone else.

[Bobby Light]

move to a country where everyone is as smart as you are.

[spoonraker]

That's the american spirit, if you don't like it, TOUGH ****.

Instead of...ya know..changing the way the country is run or something silly like that

[Bobby Light]

btw i hear there is a huge need for engineers in dubai

[Bobby Light]

That's the american spirit, if you don't like it, TOUGH ****.

Instead of...ya know..changing the way the country is run or something silly like that

tough **** spoon

[dave]

you said the country is a joke, move somewhere else for a couple years.

Specifically what advantages does that give me?

Without being able to realize your mistakes, you are unable to learn from them. Ignoring the fact that the United States has problems only perpetuates the problem.

[Bobby Light]

go somewhere without problems and come back and tell us how to fix them...run for president or school board or some ****.

[dave]

btw i hear there is a huge need for engineers in dubai

I



am



still


in


college.

It would make absolutely no sense for me to quit college to move to another country. How do you come up with this stuff spencer? I am never able to understand your logic or how you get to these ridiculous conclusions (that you consider solutions).

[Bobby Light]

**** college, blow it off and become a professional backpacker

[coop]

a quick aside:

degrees are worthless.....spencer and yogi make more than me

[Bobby Light]

****ing college is an entirely different arguement...

i wish i would have followed my "stupid plan" (deemed stupid by my parents)

right out of high school and not have went to college.

[dave]

I tried that. Made some good money. Realized there is a glass ceiling for those who do not hold degrees. So now I'm back in getting what is arguably one of the best bachelors degrees you can get.

[Bobby Light]

I tried that. Made some good money. Realized there is a glass ceiling for those who do not hold degrees. So now I'm back in getting what is arguably one of the best bachelors degrees you can get.

I think that your plan and my plan were prob a tad bit different.

[dave]

Well, I made 60k when I was 19. I think you can agree that life was working out for me.

[Bobby Light]

I guess your glass celing and mine are prob a bit diffrent then

[coop]

good fences make good neighbors

[spoonraker]

When I hit my glass ceiling and/or when I am making a comfortable amount of money to do so I will finish out my degree online.

[dave]

I guess your glass celing and mine are prob a bit diffrent then

Glass ceiling for me was around 120k. I want to make more than that. So I went back to school.

[Bobby Light]

I guess your glass celing and mine are prob a bit diffrent then

Glass ceiling for me was around 120k. I want to make more than that. So I went back to school.

wow, I dont really need that much.

[coop]

i would take 120k

[spoonraker]

120k/yr sounds pretty good to me right now

[dave]

I don't think I would be satisfied with that when I'm 40.

[coop]

i dont plan on still working at 40

[cole]

what are your getting a degree in, dave?

[dave]

elecktrickle ingineareeing

[cole]

i wish i would have been blessed with mathematical abilities

[82355]

What was your super duper scheme Spencer?

[coop]

car shop....mod work.....like overhaulin or pimp my ride

[Bobby Light]

car shop....mod work.....like overhaulin or pimp my ride

not quite...I was going to work on traveling construction/railroad for 3-4 years and bank every penny.

while either living at home with my parents, or on the road (expenses paid)

that would have got me saved up enough to pay for a very nice house, once a home is established and paid for that eliminates alot of finance issues.

[coop]

should have installed fiber optics like your bro.....thought he made 80k out of hs....

[smoksho]

Spencer, the reason I don't like Obama is because he has no idea what he's talking about. He's obviously just trying to remember as much of what his debate coaches told him, and every time he gets off track it just came back to the same old, "Put the Government back on the people's side", bs

He seems way in over his head and unable to have any sort of opinion of his own.

Dude Iam confused, why are you talking about Obama?

[coop]

i didnt laugh...but i did smile and then think to myself.....why does it say obama when clearly that description fits palin a lot better

[Bobby Light]

should have installed fiber optics like your bro.....thought he made 80k out of hs....

he does not install fiber optics.

he designs and manages networks.

hes got a god given gift with computers

I was plannin on doing shitty work and bustin my ass

[David]

class breaks... take a hammer to the review..

[MadmaX]

biden won. issues aside. and I didn't even agree with everything palin said on top of thinking she didn't come across well. if democrats got abortion & education right i'd prolly even switch sides. say la vee they don't.

damn I'm soo intoxicated right now. free booze is awesome.
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[coop]

Thank you for that unbaised analysis Daniel. I can see you were watching the same debate as I was.

[MadmaX]

she did okay- ish. biden was miss congeniality. I was surprised. they both did better than expected but biden won hands down.
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[dave]

Democrats need to abolish the department of education.

[coop]

i sea what you did there

[Kries]

I think they both did okay, I was getting a little ticked by Palin's use of her "Hockey Mom" style lingo. But she stood her ground as best she could.

Biden was calm and collected, spoke intelligently, but made a couple blunders, in my opinion.

[coop]

this is funny cuz this is EXACTLY how i feel about all 4

http://i33.tinypic.com/aob6sk.jpg

[millertime]

this is funny cuz this is EXACTLY how i feel about all 4

http://i33.tinypic.com/aob6sk.jpg

ha ha

[millertime]

biden won, but by a slim margin

[STOK5OH]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2909496470_d751e8a3dc.jpg?v=0

:rofl: spot ****ing on,+1 for u. :lol:



For once I completely agree with spoon. Yes, Palin is perfect for "relating" to middle class people, but that's about it. Somebody that watched this cannot honestly say she even came CLOSE to winning this debate, she barely answered ANY of the questions! She was spouting off random bs plain and simple.

Ya,exactly right. She did terrible,she's a more of a rehearsed poser than youre typical politician. Which is saying quite alot. :yawn:

[MadmaX]

See we can say all this, but then there's people like my wife who just go; "I like her. I think she did good." and they'll just vote for her anyway.

And who am I to talk, I'll vote republican despite the disappointments because on an issue by issue basis that's generally where I align but that's different imo.

[spoonraker]

Spencer, the reason I don't like Obama is because he has no idea what he's talking about. He's obviously just trying to remember as much of what his debate coaches told him, and every time he gets off track it just came back to the same old, "Put the Government back on the people's side", bs

He seems way in over his head and unable to have any sort of opinion of his own.

Dude Iam confused, why are you talking about Obama?

I will agree, you are confused.