Military Requirement?

[Bobby Light]

do you think that the president should have served in some branch of the US Military?

im not talking about any president in particular, just in general.

[Kelvin]

id want one with a background in military so he or she knew what problems a war would cause, and make it the last resort instead of bombing everyone blindly and reggret it later. the current president still thinks the public is stoopud.

[Cotnerdude]

no, but you need good knowledge

[Bobby Light]

can you have good knowledge without being involved?

[Kelvin]

exactly. im no president but you should atleast have some knowledge on whats going on and how to handle instead of handing someone the keys and saying have fun.

[Cotnerdude]

I think if your in policts you have a knowledge greater than most, for the simple fact its all around you.

[Kelvin]

you watch to much cnn and msnbc

[spoonraker]

The president is responsible for a lot of stuff, there's know way he can have personal experience in every single issue in the US.

If you're gonna require military experience, you should require that at some point he was poor, and rich, was gay, adopted a child, smoked pot, had an abortion, was black, was a woman, was sentenced to death, immigrated from another country, etc.

As President, there is no shortage of information available to you, about anything. Requiring first hand experience is dumb.

[Bobby Light]

The president is responsible for a lot of stuff, there's know way he can have personal experience in every single issue in the US.

If you're gonna require military experience, you should require that at some point he was poor, and rich, was gay, adopted a child, smoked pot, had an abortion, was black, was a woman, was sentenced to death, immigrated from another country, etc.

As President, there is no shortage of information available to you, about anything. Requiring first hand experience is dumb.

But do you think any one of those is a bigger issue than War and military related activities???

you cant compare abortion to mobilizing thousands of troops.

[toom1h]

If the president can declare troops to go kills people but hasn't done it himself. Then he fails at his own job.

[spoonraker]

The president is responsible for a lot of stuff, there's know way he can have personal experience in every single issue in the US.

If you're gonna require military experience, you should require that at some point he was poor, and rich, was gay, adopted a child, smoked pot, had an abortion, was black, was a woman, was sentenced to death, immigrated from another country, etc.

As President, there is no shortage of information available to you, about anything. Requiring first hand experience is dumb.

But do you think any one of those is a bigger issue than War and military related activities???

you cant compare abortion to mobilizing thousands of troops.

Personally? No.

Do some people? Absolutely.

In case you missed it the first time, what I'm trying to say is that you obviously have a very strong opinion about the war, but others might not, so why would it be fair to require the President be very familiar with one issue, but not the others?

A gay, black, female, teacher who immigrated from another country and is looking to adopt a child, with a husband on death row might not give a **** about the war.

[Bobby Light]

that does not compare, at all.

[spoonraker]

The president shouldn't be required to have personal experience with certain issues just because you consider them more important than others.

[Bobby Light]

100's of deaths + shitloads of money wasted = more important than some dike with a husband on death row wanting a kid (like she would get one anyways)

Your situation affects 1 person, war affects many.

[Cotnerdude]

Their are poeople that will dissagree, Abortion is one of the biggest things the seperates canidates. Some people would agrue you are killing with abortion and their no way to estimate a good number for this. I am sure it would be high.

I dont know if we should have a president that has to have experience. It depends on where we are as a country. In times of war, I think its something to look for. What is he isnt, but his Vice is and so are many other people he associates with?

[spoonraker]

We get it Spencer, you think war is the most important issue. Not everybody else does though, that's why we vote. You vote who is up for election as well as who is elected. If you want somebody who has military experience, then vote for them. It shouldn't be a requirement just because your belief is that this is the most important thing.

[Bobby Light]

so you are saying that it is ok that they can control 1000's of troops without any kind of expierience?

[Bobby Light]

and really that isnt the most important thing to me

most important is HOW THE **** THEY ARE GOING TO SAVE ME ****ING MONEY

[toom1h]

There are jobs to train others that either require experience or schooling... You can't be taught how to be a president through schooling. If you don't have experience on one of his major roles (controlling our armed forces), then once again 'fails at his own job'.

[spoonraker]

If personal experience in every aspect of the presidency is required, then there isn't a person alive who is qualified to be president. There's a reason the president has a billion advisers and people working for him.

[toom1h]

There are jobs that he learns throught his government career. Such as being a senator, governor, etc... But he has atleast experience the short of the stick on every thing he will be required to do in office. EX: Sign vetos, he has been on the side on voting to getting a bill into office or not. But if he hasn't been on the short end of the stick of going to war or serving in the military then he has no idea what kind of affects he is 'actually' doing.

[spoonraker]

yes...but...there is more to the presidency than just war. Nobody has experience in everything that the president is required to do or make decisions about.

Like I said to spencer, if you think the war and having experience is important, than vote for somebody who has war experience. Not everybody thinks it's necessary, that's why we vote.

[toom1h]

In the end all of his other decisions,,, does not kill u.s. citizens or foreigners quite like his decision on war...

[Bobby Light]

its ok, spoon would rather give babies to crack whores and legalize pot.

[David]

commander and chief.

[spoonraker]

its ok, spoon would rather give babies to crack whores and legalize pot.

:lol:

I never said anything even close to that. I just said if military experience should be required for presidency, then so should experience with all other issues that people base their votes on, which include things besides military action believe it or not.

You believe war experience is important, others don't. If you said it should be required that the president is republican, that would sound equally unreasonable to me.

[Kelvin]

well if no experience is required on any specific situation, then everyone should be president, or no one should be. i cant wait for the presidential debate and everyone on here argues about there answers.

[spoonraker]

Technically speaking, there are tons of average people who are qualified to be president. It's not really all that hard to fit the criteria. It's not much more than citizenship and an age limit.

However, people will vote based on their own personal "requirements" for president. In Spencer's case, he thinks it should be a requirement to have military experience, so he will vote accordingly.

[coop]

can you have good knowledge without being involved?

i think daniel has great knowledge about the events in the bible and I am pretty sure he wasnt involved.

[82355]

NO.

[dave]

Yes, and I think it needs to be a white male, and he needs to be Christian too.

[David]

** i'm out.

[turbodaytona87]

I gotta agree with spoon on this one, just because your top concern is war doesn't mean everyone's is. That's why we have a democracy, so you can vote for who you feel is most qualified(whatever qualified means to you)

[David]

Elitist > decades of service.

[coop]

someone who questions war > someone who doesnt

[dave]

Elitist > decades of service.


you guys and your MSM.

[Z28]

do you think that the president should have served in some branch of the US Military?

im not talking about any president in particular, just in general.

yes, thats why we should elect mccain duh

[Bobby Light]

do you think that the president should have served in some branch of the US Military?

im not talking about any president in particular, just in general.

yes, thats why we should elect mccain duh

believe me, im agianst war, it took my brother away from me for 18 months as well as many friends...

saying that, i wouldnt want a masters in political science making "war situation" decisions with my families or friends lives.

[coop]

i dont think you need military experience when you are being attacked. You respond, plain and simple.


Now, going and attacking innocent people, i think that takes a little more military credentials....you have to kill and somehow make it seem they were attacking first...

[dave]

do you think that the president should have served in some branch of the US Military?

im not talking about any president in particular, just in general.

yes, thats why we should elect mccain duh

believe me, im agianst war, it took my brother away from me for 18 months as well as many friends...

saying that, i wouldnt want a masters in political science making "war situation" decisions with my families or friends lives.

That being said, I wouldn't want a person who graduated 3rd from last place in their class at west point, but would rather have someone who graduated near the top at harvard.

[yamahaSHO]

Obviously no single person is going to have experienced everything EVAR, but given that this US of A is sustaining freedom due to our military and our troops giving their lives for it, I *personally* think that the President should have a very good understanding of the military. Having a background in the military can go a long way (even if it is only 4 years).

I've been in the Air Force just over 7 years, my fiance is in the AF, my dad is still active in the AF, and my mom is retired AF, so I could be biased... But there's a reason for it too.

War isn't everything, however, take the fight out of us, and there are plenty of other countries that would LOVE to cut the heads off of every one of us.

Of course a president should be knowledgeable and proactive in our own problems in the US. That is a given, however, war (whether you want to think about it or not) is going to happen and WILL happen whether we fight it or not. The military isn't all about war, more like national defense. Day-to-day military operations (wether you know or not) are what keep our country alert and you out of immediate danger. Just having experience could be a great advantage.

Do I think a person who has not had military experience is not qualified... No. There are plenty of people that can handle being the president without having a military background. I do believe that the person who ONLY associates the military with war is severely at a handicap.

[millertime]

what if we do it just like the swiss? everyone has to go through military training and a year of service a year after they graduate highschool, and in that year between highschool and the military they travel around the country and see different trades and get to figure out what they want to do. This also solves the problem of violence because every male citizen carries a loaded semi-auto rifle in their home.
But unfortunately anti-gun activists here would probably flip out.

[yamahaSHO]

what if we do it just like the swiss? everyone has to go through military training and a year of service a year after they graduate highschool, and in that year between highschool and the military they travel around the country and see different trades and get to figure out what they want to do. This also solves the problem of violence because every male citizen carries a loaded semi-auto rifle in their home.
But unfortunately anti-gun activists here would probably flip out.

Although I think many people can benefit from the experience, I do not think it is necessary as I respect the fact some people want to live their own life their way. If you have no desire to be in the military, who am I to tell you that you have to serve? There also many people that just are not cut out to do it.

[millertime]

yes, i agree, but it gives them the experience to know what it's like, and in switzerland their troops are very rarely used, and oftentimes it's the volunteers/career soldiers that go anyways.

[millertime]

that's why they only are required to serve a year, they realize it isn't for everyone, but they believe everyone needs a little experience.

[Z28]

Your family volunteered for the military so don't get mad at the president for using volunteers to protect their homeland

[srt-4_uk]

I dont think there is a need for it. That is why people have advisers.
Regardless of what the President says, Congress still has to back it.

[yamahaSHO]

Your family volunteered for the military so don't get mad at the president for using volunteers to protect their homeland

If you're talking to me, I'm not mad one bit. It's the opposite to be exact. My dad likes dropping laser guided bombs through windows from way up high... He's a bit patriotic and has great pride in defending our country.

[srt-4_uk]

^^mr. my dad is a f-16 pilot

Jews have to serve in the military. Seems to be working for them tho. In America, that would never fly. Imagine the kind of **** we would have in the military. We need to give prisoners the guns and tell them to fight for freedom.

[Kelvin]

dont think for 1 second the military has let us live a free life in the past 15yrs maybe more. no one has threatened us for the land we live on, not our land either, we stole it.

[82355]

Lots of haha on this page.

Martin

[Paul_N]

isn't this why there is a 5 star general by the pres side>?

[spoonraker]

there are plenty of other countries that would LOVE to cut the heads off of every one of us.

:sillyme:

[coop]

yamahaSHO the new Fast1integra aka the new Aweb80

[82355]

Yeah, I already thougt he was stupid, but he went ahead and proved it.

[Hibs]

isn't this why there is a 5 star general by the pres side>?

there is no 5star general in the US military.

[coop]

i sewed on an extra cuz im special

[Bobby Light]

isn't this why there is a 5 star general by the pres side>?

here is the last one...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Bradley

[Paul_N]

umm maybe i should of pay attn during basic LOL

but yeah he has people

[Hibs]

isn't this why there is a 5 star general by the pres side>?

here is the last one...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Bradley

I know there has been. There isn't any more though.

[82355]

War isn't everything, however, take the fight out of us, and there are plenty of other countries that would LOVE to cut the heads off of every one of us.

Do you think are millitary might be part of the reason for that???

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

War isn't everything, however, take the fight out of us, and there are plenty of other countries that would LOVE to cut the heads off of every one of us.

Do you think are millitary might be part of the reason for that???

Martin

No, OUR military isn't the biggest contributor. OUR freedoms and free religion ARE.

[coop]

so we should ban free religion and freedoms?

[yamahaSHO]

yamahaSHO the new Fast1integra aka the new Aweb80


there are plenty of other countries that would LOVE to cut the heads off of every one of us.

:sillyme:

yamahaSHO the new Fast1integra aka the new Aweb80



I guess you're going to have to catch me up on this....

Yeah, I already thougt he was stupid, but he went ahead and proved it.

http://hosting.superhighoutput.com/yamahasho/Avatars%20and%20Signatures/dumbass.jpg

I don't think you're qualified to pass that judgement...

I come from an entirely different background than the majority of you. I can respect your views, however, you guys cannot seem to do the same.

[yamahaSHO]

so we should ban free religion and freedoms?

I can lock you in my basement if you'd like, but I'm not giving you any food.

[dave]

No, OUR military isn't the biggest contributor. OUR freedoms and free religion ARE.

You're a ****ing idiot.

[yamahaSHO]

What's your answer genious? It must be nice to be niave. It's pretty well known that the Taliban (just one example) hate our freedom. :google: it *****.

[Z28]

Your family volunteered for the military so don't get mad at the president for using volunteers to protect their homeland

If you're talking to me, I'm not mad one bit. It's the opposite to be exact. My dad likes dropping laser guided bombs through windows from way up high... He's a bit patriotic and has great pride in defending our country.

no i was referring to someone else's post that replied after mine. i couldn't quote it on my phone, er i was too lazy to find that button

[srt-4_uk]

shut up tim. go get ready for work

[Z28]

shut up tim. go get ready for work

can i call and ***** about how bad this whole ****ing week as sucked???

i mean sucked worse than just the normal sucking..stuck with zale by myself :headchop:

[dave]

What's your answer genious? It must be nice to be niave. It's pretty well known that the Taliban (just one example) hate our freedom. :google: it *****.

You're a ****ing idiot that can't read.

[srt-4_uk]

shut up tim. go get ready for work

can i call and ***** about how bad this whole ****ing week as sucked???

i mean sucked worse than just the normal sucking..stuck with zale by myself :headchop:

sorry buddy. How is washing the jet going? I know it sucks but you guys finished as far as I can tell this morning when I left. If you need a shoulder to cry on, you can call me. I will listen to your problems.

[yamahaSHO]

What's your answer genious? It must be nice to be niave. It's pretty well known that the Taliban (just one example) hate our freedom. :google: it *****.

You're a ****ing idiot that can't read.


I guess you're right... Want to play with me?--->:sex::gfightsmiley:

[srt-4_uk]

yamahaSHO the new Fast1integra aka the new Aweb80



I guess you're going to have to catch me up on this....


aweb=super republican that gives hand jobs to bill o'riley while sending mail bombs to abortion clinics and preaching Christianity.

[yamahaSHO]

yamahaSHO the new Fast1integra aka the new Aweb80



I guess you're going to have to catch me up on this....


aweb=super republican that gives hand jobs to bill o'riley while sending mail bombs to abortion clinics and preaching Christianity.

Just hand jobs??

[dave]

What's your answer genious? It must be nice to be niave. It's pretty well known that the Taliban (just one example) hate our freedom. :google: it *****.

You're a ****ing idiot that can't read.


I guess you're right... Want to play with me?--->:gfightsmiley:


So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.

Explain to me why my reasoning (which agrees with what osama says, the leader of the taliban) is naive.

Furthermore, if you were to actually do a google search yourself, you would find some interesting reading that completely agrees with me and disagrees with you.

So, specifically why am I naive, and feel free to use the definition of naive in your answer, because I don't believe you fully understand its meaning.

[srt-4_uk]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.

[yamahaSHO]

What's your answer genious? It must be nice to be niave. It's pretty well known that the Taliban (just one example) hate our freedom. :google: it *****.

You're a ****ing idiot that can't read.


I guess you're right... Want to play with me?--->:gfightsmiley:


So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.

Explain to me why my reasoning (which agrees with what osama says, the leader of the taliban) is naive.

Furthermore, if you were to actually do a google search yourself, you would find some interesting reading that completely agrees with me and disagrees with you.

So, specifically why am I naive, and feel free to use the definition of naive in your answer, because I don't believe you fully understand its meaning.


I had something typed out... but then I realized that you're not worth it. If you think this place is so bad for what's going on, feel free to jump ship and move to Iraq. Honestly, I wouldn't feel remorse for your certain death.

[yamahaSHO]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.

The said part is that I really think he does...

I didn't realize Nebraska was so against the military and the freedoms my friends have died for.

[dave]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.


Nope, we have a very long history of being over there in, occupying their land. Its called blowback. Look it up.

[dave]

I had something typed out... but then I realized that you're not worth it.

i bet you did champ...i bet you did.

[dave]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.

The said part is that I really think he does...

I didn't realize Nebraska was so against the military and the freedoms my friends have died for.

Don't speculate on what I do or do not think. Thanks.

[dave]

And I will continue this conversation when you answer my question, idiot.

[yamahaSHO]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.


Nope, we have a very long history of being over there in, occupying their land. Its called blowback. Look it up.

I know we've been over there for many years, my dad has been flying over there once ever couple years since the early 1990's. There are reasons why we are there (not just because we want to "kill families). Many US military missions take place overseas. Many of our monitoring systems (to includes space) are located off our shores.

There are plenty of "them" in our land. We let them live here long enough to teach them how to fly planes into buildings.

It's answers like that and not realizing how good you have it makes you niave.

[yamahaSHO]

I had something typed out... but then I realized that you're not worth it.

i bet you did champ...i bet you did.

Oh ****, the dumb **** moron got me on this one!

[dave]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.


Nope, we have a very long history of being over there in, occupying their land. Its called blowback. Look it up.

I know we've been over there for many years, my dad has been flying over there once ever couple years since the early 1990's. There are reasons why we are there (not just because we want to "kill families). Many US military missions take place overseas. Many of our monitoring systems (to includes space) are located off our shores.

There are plenty of "them" in our land. We let them live here long enough to teach them how to fly planes into buildings.

It's answers like that and not realizing how good you have it makes you niave.

Dont misquote me you ****ing ****.

[yamahaSHO]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.

The said part is that I really think he does...

I didn't realize Nebraska was so against the military and the freedoms my friends have died for.

Don't speculate on what I do or do not think. Thanks.

Or what dipshit? I will speculate, group and stereo-type whoever the **** I want. That's a freedom this US of A has given me., Thanks.

[yamahaSHO]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.


Nope, we have a very long history of being over there in, occupying their land. Its called blowback. Look it up.

I know we've been over there for many years, my dad has been flying over there once ever couple years since the early 1990's. There are reasons why we are there (not just because we want to "kill families). Many US military missions take place overseas. Many of our monitoring systems (to includes space) are located off our shores.

There are plenty of "them" in our land. We let them live here long enough to teach them how to fly planes into buildings.

It's answers like that and not realizing how good you have it makes you niave.

Dont misquote me you ****ing ****.

If I give you a gun, will you install a bullet in your brain?

Nobody misquoted you. I clearly hit "quote" and it put it exactly like you said it....

Seriously, I can't believe some of the stuff you're typing. You can have your own view, but saying I'm an idiot for my views is reciduculous you dumb ****. What the hell is in the corn around here? I can't fathom how ****ing stupid you are.

[dave]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.


Nope, we have a very long history of being over there in, occupying their land. Its called blowback. Look it up.

I know we've been over there for many years, my dad has been flying over there once ever couple years since the early 1990's. There are reasons why we are there (not just because we want to "kill families).
I never said we were over there because we wanted to kill families.
Many US military missions take place overseas. Many of our monitoring systems (to includes space) are located off our shores.
That is great common knowledge, thanks for sharing.

There are plenty of "them" in our land. We let them live here long enough to teach them how to fly planes into buildings.
Whatever....thats fine...

It's answers like that and not realizing how good you have it makes you niave.

So how am I naive? and I know you haven't looked up the definition yet because, first of all you are stating well known facts which don't contradict my stance, and secondly you are still misspelling it.

[David]

WARNING: Feelings may be hurt

[dave]

WARNING: Feelings may be hurt

:)

[David]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB6hLg3PRbY

[dave]

I am going to leave this conversation because it is going no where.

I will go back to my 'niave'[sp] ways.

Good night.

[yamahaSHO]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.


Nope, we have a very long history of being over there in, occupying their land. Its called blowback. Look it up.

I know we've been over there for many years, my dad has been flying over there once ever couple years since the early 1990's. There are reasons why we are there (not just because we want to "kill families).
I never said we were over there because we wanted to kill families.
Many US military missions take place overseas. Many of our monitoring systems (to includes space) are located off our shores.
That is great common knowledge, thanks for sharing.

There are plenty of "them" in our land. We let them live here long enough to teach them how to fly planes into buildings.
Whatever....thats fine...

It's answers like that and not realizing how good you have it makes you niave.

So how am I naive? and I know you haven't looked up the definition yet because, first of all you are stating well known facts which don't contradict my stance, and secondly you are still misspelling it.

I'm in the military, do you really think I need to look up that definition, honestly? There is so much more going on there that you do not know or understand.

I'm sorry you think you're so knowledgeable of everything that is going on there with (I'm going on a limb here :rolleyes:) NO first-hand experience.

I'm willing to bet you're one of those people that thinks pulling all of our troops out would solve the worlds problems too, huh? It's amazing how most civilians (or people who have not served) think they know so much about the military and what happens in war. Don't worry, we'll keep fighting for your right to be stupid.

If you want your question answered, understand what I am actually saying. Yes, I spelled it incorrectly... It happens.

[yamahaSHO]

I am going to leave this conversation because it is going no where.

I will go back to my 'niave'[sp] ways.

Good night.

Go finish your bong douche.

[82355]

I had something typed out... but then I realized that you're not worth it. If you think this place is so bad for what's going on, feel free to jump ship and move to Iraq.

Hahahahaha, "If you don't like it, leave". I told you he was a ****in' idiot.

hahahahahahahaha

Martin

[82355]

So I think that 'terrorists' hate us because we are over there killing their families, and you think they hate us because we are free.


you cant seriously believe that is the only reason they hate us.

Do you think they are mad at the countries with religious freedom that aren't killing and oppressing them???

Martin

[82355]

I didn't realize Nebraska was so against the military and the freedoms my friends have died for.

I don't think anyone is against the soldiers, but the war yes. I have a friend who was killed in Iraq, and he sure as **** wasn't protecting MY freedom.

Martin

[82355]

I know we've been over there for many years, my dad has been flying over there once ever couple years since the early 1990's. There are reasons why we are there (not just because we want to "kill families). Many US military missions take place overseas. Many of our monitoring systems (to includes space) are located off our shores.

I am pretty sure everyone in America knows that.

There are plenty of "them" in our land. We let them live here long enough to teach them how to fly planes into buildings.

Why do you think they wanted to do that in the first place, and what does that have to do with Iraq???

It's answers like that and not realizing how good you have it makes you niave.

Your stupidity is quite entertaining.

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

I had something typed out... but then I realized that you're not worth it. If you think this place is so bad for what's going on, feel free to jump ship and move to Iraq.

Hahahahaha, "If you don't like it, leave". I told you he was a ****in' idiot.

hahahahahahahaha

Martin

Didn't I have you crying in one of your own threads? Who's the idiot that comes to a board to talk ****, then cries when it's hitting home? Damn your dumb ****stick.

How old are you again? What first-hand experience have you had with this war or the military?


I didn't realize Nebraska was so against the military and the freedoms my friends have died for.

I don't think anyone is against the soldiers, but the war yes. I have a friend who was killed in Iraq, and he sure as **** wasn't protecting MY freedom.

Martin


Are you absolutely sure where your freedom starts?


I don't agree with everything about this war, however, were not just there for the sake of saying we're there.

[82355]

If I give you a gun, will you install a bullet in your brain?

If he hasn't done it with his own guns, why would he do it with yours?

Martin

[82355]

Didn't I have you crying in one of your own threads? Who's the idiot that comes to a board to talk ****, then cries when it's hitting home? Damn your dumb ****stick.

Link to this??? Also, why is my **** stupid?

Martin

[Thunder]

Didn't I have you crying in one of your own threads? Who's the idiot that comes to a board to talk ****, then cries when it's hitting home? Damn your dumb ****stick.

Link to this??? Also, why is my **** stupid?

Martin

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[yamahaSHO]

I know we've been over there for many years, my dad has been flying over there once ever couple years since the early 1990's. There are reasons why we are there (not just because we want to "kill families). Many US military missions take place overseas. Many of our monitoring systems (to includes space) are located off our shores.

I am pretty sure everyone in America knows that.

It's more of what they don't know it what I'm getting and dumbass.


There are plenty of "them" in our land. We let them live here long enough to teach them how to fly planes into buildings.

Why do you think they wanted to do that in the first place, and what does that have to do with Iraq???

I've already given two.

It's answers like that and not realizing how good you have it makes you niave.
QUOTE=82355;325332]
Your stupidity is quite entertaining.

Martin[/QUOTE]

What is stupid is wasted keystrokes... Instead of putting faggo... I mean "Martin" in your signature, you type it every single time you post. That's working harder, not smarter, right? Go kick some **** business man.

[82355]

How old are you again? What first-hand experience have you had with this war or the military?

What does my age have to do with this? As for experience, I would say it only goes so far as knowing lots of soldiers who have been there, several who received Purple Hearts, and one whose funeral I attended. The only soldiers I have talked to (I have talked with lots of them, some who were over there the first time around) who agree with us being over there, are the brainwashed idiots who couldn't tie their shoes without being told to, but the majority DO NOT.

Martin

[82355]

Are you absolutely sure where your freedom starts?

My freedom is actually quite limited by our overbearing Federal government.

Martin

[82355]

It's more of what they don't know it what I'm getting and dumbass.

You're getting "dumbass"?

Martin

[82355]

Why do you think they wanted to do that in the first place, and what does that have to do with Iraq???

I've already given two.

Two retarded reasons. There are many many free countries the so called "terrorists" don't care about. If you can see the correlation between our government trying to police the world and the rest of the world hating us for it, then you are stupider than I had even originally thought.

What is stupid is wasted keystrokes... Instead of putting faggo... I mean "Martin" in your signature, you type it every single time you post. That's working harder, not smarter, right? Go kick some **** business man.

It's not a Jeep thing, but you wouldn't understand.

Martin

[82355]

Also, you shouldn't have "wasted" that extra keystroke you used to delete "[", it makes your post look silly.

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

How old are you again? What first-hand experience have you had with this war or the military?

What does my age have to do with this? As for experience, I would say it only goes so far as knowing lots of soldiers who have been there, several who received Purple Hearts, and one whose funeral I attended. The only soldiers I have talked to (I have talked with lots of them, some who were over there the first time around) who agree with us being over there, are the brainwashed idiots who couldn't tie their shoes without being told to, but the majority DO NOT.

Martin

I'm willing to bet I've talked with thousands more than you... Just because they didn't agree with you, does not mean they're brain-washed. It's nice how you address the people that are fighting for your rights. Really though, what is your age? It's not always just a number.

Are you absolutely sure where your freedom starts?

My freedom is actually quite limited by our overbearing Federal government.

Martin

It could be worse... Do you know realize how good you do have it?

It's more of what they don't know it what I'm getting and dumbass.

You're getting "dumbass"?

Martin

You're the last person to correct typo's...


I mistook you for another member for the crying part.

[yamahaSHO]

Also, you shouldn't have "wasted" that extra keystroke you used to delete "[", it makes your post look silly.

Martin

You've got to have something better than that.

Martin

[82355]

You're the last person to correct typo's...

Why is that?

I mistook you for another member for the crying part.[/QUOTE]

Duh.

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

Why do you think they wanted to do that in the first place, and what does that have to do with Iraq???

I've already given two.

Two retarded reasons. There are many many free countries the so called "terrorists" don't care about. If you can see the correlation between our government trying to police the world and the rest of the world hating us for it, then you are stupider than I had even originally thought.

Stupider? Yeah, you're the last person to be in charge of the grammer police. There are plenty of countries under raised thread levels. Many of which you refer to are INFERIOR to us and do not pose as much of a threat.

What is stupid is wasted keystrokes... Instead of putting faggo... I mean "Martin" in your signature, you type it every single time you post. That's working harder, not smarter, right? Go kick some **** business man.



It's not a Jeep thing, but you wouldn't understand.

Martin

I see, it's a *** thing.

[82355]

Also, you shouldn't have "wasted" that extra keystroke you used to delete "[", it makes your post look silly.

Martin

You've got to have something better than that.

Martin

How is that any stupider than your retarded comment about me typing my name after each post???

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

[QUOTE=yamahaSHO;325363]You're the last person to correct typo's...

Why is that?

Your last post is a decent example.


I mistook you for another member for the crying part.


Duh.

Martin
Sorry, I mistook two dumb people... It happens.

[yamahaSHO]

Also, you shouldn't have "wasted" that extra keystroke you used to delete "[", it makes your post look silly.

Martin

You've got to have something better than that.

Martin

How is that any stupider than your retarded comment about me typing my name after each post???

Martin

Stupider?

[82355]

Stupider? Yeah, you're the last person to be in charge of the grammer police. There are plenty of countries under raised thread levels. Many of which you refer to are INFERIOR to us and do not pose as much of a threat.

I never volunteered to lead any "GrammEr police" Someone did however correctly write "Grammar Police" under my sign in name a long time ago. I had nothing to do with that.

What is stupid is wasted keystrokes... Instead of putting faggo... I mean "Martin" in your signature, you type it every single time you post. That's working harder, not smarter, right? Go kick some **** business man.



It's not a Jeep thing, but you wouldn't understand.

Martin

I see, it's a *** thing.

Wow, original joke. So what if I was gay? What does that have to do with anything?

Martin

[82355]

Stupider?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stupider

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

Stupider? Yeah, you're the last person to be in charge of the grammer police. There are plenty of countries under raised thread levels. Many of which you refer to are INFERIOR to us and do not pose as much of a threat.

I never volunteered to lead any "GrammEr police" Someone did however correctly write "Grammar Police" under my sign in name a long time ago. I had nothing to do with that.

Sure....

What is stupid is wasted keystrokes... Instead of putting faggo... I mean "Martin" in your signature, you type it every single time you post. That's working harder, not smarter, right? Go kick some **** business man.



It's not a Jeep thing, but you wouldn't understand.

Martin

I see, it's a *** thing.

Wow, original joke. So what if I was gay? What does that have to do with anything?

Martin[/QUOTE] I don't know, you said I wouldn't understand. I really don't care if you like the taste of ass scented **** in you mouth.

[82355]

Sorry, I mistook to dumb people... It happens.

hahahahaha

Sometimes that happens to me two . . . . . . . .

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

Stupider?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stupider

Martin

None of which actually reference the word "stupider".

stu·pid Audio Help /ˈstupɪd, ˈstyu‑/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[stoo-pid, styoo‑] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, -er, -est, noun
–adjective 1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3. tediously dull, esp. due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4. annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5. in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.
6. Slang. excellent; terrific.
–noun 7. Informal. a stupid person.



stu·pid Audio Help (stōō'pĭd, styōō'-) Pronunciation Key
adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est


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[Origin: 1535–45; < L stupidus = stup(ére) to be numb or stunned + -idus -id4]

—Related forms
stu·pid·ly, adverb
stu·pid·ness, noun


stu·pid Audio Help (stōō'pĭd, styōō'-) Pronunciation Key
adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est

Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.
Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake.
Dazed, stunned, or stupefied.
Pointless; worthless: a stupid job.

n. A stupid or foolish person.


[Latin stupidus, from stupēre, to be stunned.]

stu'pid·ly adv., stu'pid·ness n.


Probably should have read the rest.... In the same link you gave, there is another.... http://www.britannica.com/bps/search?query=stupider#search=tab~MORE%20RESULTS%2C term~stupider&tab=active~home%2Citems~

[82355]

I don't know, you said I wouldn't understand. I really don't care if you like the taste of ass scented **** in you mouth.

I never said I did, I was just trying to figure out what exactly my sexual preference had to do with an argument over an unnecessary war???

Martin

[82355]

stu·pid Audio Help (stōō'pĭd, styōō'-) Pronunciation Key
adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est

1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.
3. Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake.
4. Dazed, stunned, or stupefied.
5. Pointless; worthless: a stupid job.

[yamahaSHO]

Sorry, I mistook to dumb people... It happens.

hahahahaha

Sometimes that happens to me two . . . . . . . .

Martin

Hey, we both typed the wrong one... Just a type.

[yamahaSHO]

Click the link I gave you...

[82355]

Maybe you missed the italics . . . . . . .

Martin

[82355]

Click the link I gave you...

The one where is says to: - Please check to see that you spelled your query correctly. Or, try a different or more general query term.

You realize that was a link to an Encyclopedia, not a Dictionary right? You do realize the difference between the two I would assume.

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

Maybe you missed the italics . . . . . . .

Martin

Yeah, I got it... Maybe you missed the typo comment dummy.

[dave]

martin, give up, this guy....i think we ALL know.

[82355]

How about Adjective? Do I need to give you a link to that as well???

Here you go:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/adjective

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

I'm getting bored. Think whatever you want. I still think you're an inbred retard that I believe thinks he's smarter than he is. I'm glad you feel so poorly about your military and what they do for you. I guess I can't expect someone who has ABSOLUTELY NO first hand or real world experience (are you even out of school and have you had more than "summer jobs") to understand.

As I said before, I as well as the rest of us volunteers will defend your right to talk **** to us. I'm not saying I wouldn't put one between your eyes in the time of war if the timing was right, but I'll still defend your dumb ass.

[82355]

martin, give up, this guy....i think we ALL know.

Make me happy and tell me that you are at least getting a few laughs out of his arguments with me? I got some good chuckles out of his stupidity while arguing with you.

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

martin, give up, this guy....i think we ALL know.

We all know what? Who are you? What do you do? How have you helped this nation.

My biggest issue is that aside from all the trash talk here, I really do think some of you are that retarded (even your own kind have called that out). I'm far from stupid and far from a child. I am, however, ashamed that I've kept up with this thread as soon as one asshole said something retarded about the whole thing. I personally am discomforted by the freedoms I stand for and defend when we have assholes like the bunch of you that say some of the crap that you do. Maybe if you guys put in some time (I'll take you to the recruiters office), you'd understand.

So yes, I'm sure we all know...

[82355]

I guess I can't expect someone who has ABSOLUTELY NO first hand or real world experience (are you even out of school and have you had more than "summer jobs") to understand.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha

Sorry I have never had a job like yours where you are just a programmed robot idiot. When you get some "real world experience" let the rest of us know. Until then, keep taking **** breaks when told to.

Martin

[dave]

It is true, I am.

But I also feel sorry for him a little bit. His arguments are terrible and irrelevant to anything in the conversation.

[82355]

martin, give up, this guy....i think we ALL know.

We all know what? Who are you? What do you do? How have you helped this nation.

My biggest issue is that aside from all the trash talk here, I really do think some of you are that retarded (even your own kind have called that out). I'm far from stupid and far from a child. I am, however, ashamed that I've kept up with this thread as soon as one asshole said something retarded about the whole thing.

So yes, I'm sure we all know...

That we are so stupid that we can read and make up our own decisions, not just tout of what we are brainwashed to believe by our newly adopted daddy. You make me sad that there are soldiers as stupids as you.

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

It is true, I am.

But I also feel sorry for him a little bit. His arguments are terrible and irrelevant to anything in the conversation.

Says you. You think you're right, I think I'm right... Where is your basis coming from? Any first hand action, 'cause I don't think you'd understand the same way if you have had it.

[dave]

martin, give up, this guy....i think we ALL know.

We all know what? Who are you? What do you do? How have you helped this nation.

My biggest issue is that aside from all the trash talk here, I really do think some of you are that retarded (even your own kind have called that out). I'm far from stupid and far from a child. I am, however, ashamed that I've kept up with this thread as soon as one asshole said something retarded about the whole thing. I personally am discomforted by the freedoms I stand for and defend when we have assholes like the bunch of you that say some of the crap that you do. Maybe if you guys put in some time (I'll take you to the recruiters office), you'd understand.

So yes, I'm sure we all know...

I just graduated high school and I'm taking art history at UNL. I will contribute to society after I get my degree. I will teach kids about the importance of art.

WTF do you do thats so much better than that?

[82355]

It is true, I am.

But I also feel sorry for him a little bit. His arguments are terrible and irrelevant to anything in the conversation.

I agree with that, but thanks. With that I am going to bed. I have to work tomorrow. Even though I won't get sent to my room with no supper if I show up late, unlike little soldier boy.

Martin

[yamahaSHO]

martin, give up, this guy....i think we ALL know.

We all know what? Who are you? What do you do? How have you helped this nation.

My biggest issue is that aside from all the trash talk here, I really do think some of you are that retarded (even your own kind have called that out). I'm far from stupid and far from a child. I am, however, ashamed that I've kept up with this thread as soon as one asshole said something retarded about the whole thing. I personally am discomforted by the freedoms I stand for and defend when we have assholes like the bunch of you that say some of the crap that you do. Maybe if you guys put in some time (I'll take you to the recruiters office), you'd understand.

So yes, I'm sure we all know...

I just graduated high school and I'm taking art history at UNL. I will contribute to society after I get my degree. I will teach kids about the importance of art.

WTF do you do thats so much better than that?

Haven't you been following???? 7+ years (6 Active Duty) in the Air Force (STILL currently serving) and network management for a major company here in Omaha. I have a degree in IT and am going for my Masters. I've done pretty well for myself thus far. The rank I'm currently at takes the AF an average of 12 - 13 years to attain. I'm sorry, but I can't take you seriously now. Some life experience will severly help your favor. I know the arguments and remarks you're thinking... I was there too...

You can contribute to society far before attaining a degree. In real world terms, a degree is just a piece of paper and a box to check on a resume... Gotta get them core classes out of the way first.

[toom1h]

I know what this thread needs.....


























:omgsho:

[toom1h]

:bored1:

[yamahaSHO]

I know what this thread needs.....


























:omgsho:


SHO's are lame.

[toom1h]

Pretty true.

[yamahaSHO]

I'm going to go with VERY true. Mine got the middle finger today (it's got a short somewhere).

[dave]

Wow, IT, I wish I could do that but I'm not smart enough.

[coop]

I used that thing you called "google" yamahaSHO and not once did i find a reference to Iraq taking our (USA) freedoms. I think my "google" is broken.

[82355]

Must be Brock.

Martin

[David]

all bs aside, I think being president is a life long journey, wut is the harm in adding another or even several other requirements to being president? if one of them is serving how is that a bad thing?

[dave]

all bs aside, I think being president is a life long journey, wut is the harm in adding another or even several other requirements to being president? if one of them is serving how is that a bad thing?

I think they should have to graduate in the top 10% of their class. I require that my president has a higher intelligence capacity than I do, and I don't think that's too much to ask.
With that said, it's obvious that we all place value on different qualities. I don't think being in the military service trumps intelligence, but you do.

Let's talk about elite real quick, you don't want a president that is elite, it seems NO ONE wants a president that is elite. Don't ask me how, but some how the media associated a negative connotation with the term elite. And you stupid sons of bitches ate it right up. There isn't a nice way to put it. Elite (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/elite) is the best of everything considered. I want my president to be elite. This guy runs the country.

[spoonraker]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/paperclippee17/UncleSam.gif

[82355]

Isn't requiring millitary service kind of "elitist"?

[David]

all bs aside, I think being president is a life long journey, wut is the harm in adding another or even several other requirements to being president? if one of them is serving how is that a bad thing?

I think they should have to graduate in the top 10% of their class. I require that my president has a higher intelligence capacity than I do, and I don't think that's too much to ask.
With that said, it's obvious that we all place value on different qualities. I don't think being in the military service trumps intelligence, but you do.

Let's talk about elite real quick, you don't want a president that is elite, it seems NO ONE wants a president that is elite. Don't ask me how, but some how the media associated a negative connotation with the term elite. And you stupid sons of bitches ate it right up. There isn't a nice way to put it. Elite (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/elite) is the best of everything considered. I want my president to be elite. This guy runs the country.

you have a hard time picking up yellow don't you?

I left your msm comment alone earlier. every president is an elitist. that's just how it is, and there just is not a good way for the average joe to be president.

I don't care how many houses mccain has or how big obama's is. seriously who the **** cares? I don't care who is worth more, neither of them need the president pay, just like each president before them. I hate people including both of the fkk heads who poke at one another for being an elitist. ****.
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[srt-4_uk]

that is alot of typing from a mobile device.

[David]

lol

[dave]

I'm glad that you can see through some of the bullshit. +1 for you in my book.

[82355]

So does no one else think that requiring millitary service is degrading to those that choose not to serve? To me it seems like that would mean that if you choose not to serve, than that would make you an inferior resident of this nation. Hell might as well take away the power to vote as well unless you join the millitary . . . . .

[spoonraker]

So does no one else think that requiring millitary service is degrading to those that choose not to serve? To me it seems like that would mean that if you choose not to serve, than that would make you an inferior resident of this nation. Hell might as well take away the power to vote as well unless you join the millitary . . . . .

+1

[David]

So does no one else think that requiring millitary service is degrading to those that choose not to serve? To me it seems like that would mean that if you choose not to serve, than that would make you an inferior resident of this nation. Hell might as well take away the power to vote as well unless you join the millitary . . . . .

you make a good point andi never implied that a president is better because he has served nor do I thin it would make ha better president. however we do have requirements as place of birth and age to be president because well we don't want an inexperienced migrant running our country. is the experience/wisdom associated with age any different than the requirement that you served our military first in some capacity? I don't think its really any different but I see your point..

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[David]

I'm glad that you can see through some of the bullshit. +1 for you in my book.

thanks

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[coop]

Hanna montana for pres

[MadmaX]

I'll chime in here on page 8.


required? absolutely not. there have already been plenty of reasons why not. I can't think of any new ones off hand.

I think we need as few restrictions as possible really.

Does learning that a candidate served help or hurt my impression of them?
Initially it helps. Though now I'm sitting here writing this, and most if not all the vets I know over the age of 35 who saw action are truely crazy in some way. lol.

[82355]

I'll chime in here on page 8.


required? absolutely not. there have already been plenty of reasons why not. I can't think of any new ones off hand.

I think we need as few restrictions as possible really.

Does learning that a candidate served help or hurt my impression of them?
Initially it helps. Though now I'm sitting here writing this, and most if not all the vets I know over the age of 35 who saw action are truely crazy in some way. lol.

I agree completely.

Martin

[coop]

Right now its 35 and US born.

That is pretty few reqs as is. Idk if I agree with those two but they could be worse.

[4 cam torino]

The president shouldn't be required to have personal experience with certain issues just because you consider them more important than others.

Then he can vote for the presidential candidate with war experience and the gay black woman with a husband on death row can vote for candidate that is the gay black woman that isn't really gay

[coop]

Why would she fake being gay? Who is this liar?

[4 cam torino]

His example called her gay and said her husband was in jail so I was really just pointing that out as I didn't see anyone else call it out on the first page and I didn't want to read the entire thing.

[f108jetmech]

its ok, spoon would rather give babies to crack whores and legalize pot.
:rofl: That line's funny.

[82355]

It is quite sad that marijuana is illegal, and I could see the sheer stupidity of that making one laugh.

Martin

[coop]

kids should abstain from alcohol and drugs

[f108jetmech]

Considering I don't do drug, you're statement makes no sense. I'm not in high school, but I'll play your stupid games.
NO YOU'RE STUPID.

[coop]

?

I think certain people dont need to be in this forum. READ what people wrote. It doesnt take that much cognitive ability to see what people are saying.

[82355]

Obviously it takes more than the military requires of it's jet mechanic's Brock.

Martin

[f108jetmech]

Are you going to try to teach me somthing about jet engines?

[AeroSS_87]

Can I just enlist to the air force now? I want out of typical life bullshit :(


I am sure my statement fits nothing with this topic.. just saw the thread and wanted to say that. kthxbye

[f108jetmech]

It's worse in the military.

[AeroSS_87]

I don't doubt that. Life just sucks.