someone went 11.15@126.65 today

[moparornocar]

Mattmoto went 11.15@126.65 with a SL/CF

[C.J.]

SL/CF?

but ya....GOT DAYUM! that **** is hauling balls.

[David]

wow.... i'm gonna need more than tires to catch him now :(

congrats matt. Very impressive.. PLease update your profile when you get a chance.

[LNKMK8]

Impressive! 32V FTW!!

Thomas

[David]

^^ don't you have some S/C 32V????

[LNKMK8]

What?? Not Really.

Thomas

[David]

dont' lie... bankers are like sales people... they all liars.

[86Shelby]

SL/CF?

I think it's a big **** mod?:dunno:

Seriously
Large
****
****er.

Those are some impressive times!:bolt: Do ya have a copy of the slip for the 60ft, 330 & 1/8th info?

[Ervin]

sweet

[Js04sILVerBullet]

Mattmoto went 11.15@126.65 with a SL/CFDamn, nice times!:drivin:

[Thunder]

awesome, congrats matt!

[Alley]

Holy **** thats some nice times!

[moparornocar]

SL/CF, While we were at Kearney I had his times corrected to sea level (Sea Level / Correction Factor) Matt has a friend that races at sea level and is always telling him his times are ass slow for what he has, So his times 11.82 @119.8, the Altimeter ceiling-inches HG 29.94,the dew point 57.00F,the temp 86,= D/A 4535 =11.15@126.5.

I wanted to show how the difference from running at kearney would compare to racing at lower elevations . Too many people post times as an end all when talking about how fast their cars are without taking in consideration the location.

Matt has a video of his run I am sure he'll share, I am sure he could have gotten down to mid low 11s as he only got a few runs in as we had to leave early to go to birthday party. His best run was conservative as he was getting used to all the new changes(big HP)

I took information from the weather channel from Lincolns weather yesterday and if Matt would have ran there at where ever they report the weather at 2;00pm, His time would have been 11.39@124.9. So that shows KRP to be about 4 of a second tens slower than Lincoln.

[smoksho]

corrected times are a fracking joke. my corrected time is a 9.00 then. :rolleye:

[moparornocar]

Yeah your right cars run the same times everywhere! On top of a mountain or at below sea level!

[smoksho]

yee and your right every car responds to altitude diff the same. :lol:

[moparornocar]

I think that is why ALL real drag racers have weather stations in their rigs? That is also why they offer corrected times? Not as good as actually being there but suprisingly close .

[smoksho]

yeee so the fact is this is nebraska, so use nebraska times!! i could give two squirts what a car would run anywhere else. Hence "LINCOLN street scene". Not "sea level street scene".

But on a lighter note, good times matt. wish we would of had time to get a race in before i shut down the killnary.

[00dakotav8]

Yeah I ran the SL/CF on my track times from july. It said I would be running a full second faster and trap 6 mph faster. I somehow doubt that being true.

[00mustanggt]

actullay the alt makes a huge difference, hence when i was in college at wyotech and we went to a track in co and a 2 almost new c6s were only running 14's trues thats 6,000 ft above sealevel vs. 2,000, cause i'd prolly of ran 12.7-12.8 at sealevel vs. my 13.02, but thats jmo, i cant post up those 12's cause i didn't run them

[moparornocar]

I actually posted it for fun, But as you can see, I also did not leave out the SL/CF and did put up his actual time. DakotaV8, yes you would find that cars that run in the 14, and 15s will pickup more ET than a car running 9s, So at sea level you might just see a one second improvement. I have seen more than that going from Julesburg Co to KRP with 13 second cars.

[Alley]

Ya, that was a little misleading since I didn't really pay any attention fo the SL/CF notation.

[moparornocar]

Ya, that was a little misleading since I didn't really pay any attention fo the SL/CF notation.

You guys cannot aways have all the fun!?

[STOK5OH]

Im calling b.s. because that car should run 10.90's with ease,unless matt is a total n00b..which he doesnt appear to be. I think u posted the actual time,now your trying to sand the story with this 11.8 w/out the benchracer correction nonsense. :roll:

[David]

i wish i had a corrected timeslip... :(

[moparornocar]

:rolleye2: Actually Matt does have an 11.82 time slip.

[C.J.]

uh oh set up for some money races....i see how you kearney boys play it!

[moparornocar]

uh oh set up for some money races....i see how you kearney boys play it!

You need to watch them Keareny boys? But us North Platte guys are straight shooters.:rolleye1:

[STOK5OH]

:rolleye2: Actually Matt does have an 11.82 time slip.

zomgomgomg yur so crafty! :drool:

[C.J.]

EDIT: north platte

sorry

[David]

btw mopar is cool as ****.. posting a corrected time is really not any different than posting a corrected dyno sheet.. I dont' think anyone has ever posted an noncorrected dyno sheet..

mad props to matt for making an 11 sec pass. There are very few people on this board that can say they have ever made an 11 sec pass.

[STOK5OH]

ya an 11.1 is gettin after it pretty decent for a DR car w/IRS.

[C.J.]

**** son my 4 banger is 11 second bound

[mattmoto441]

ya well my 4000lbs car did get me into the 11s but i could of took it futher if i had more then 4 passes in 4hrs hell i cracked off a 15.5 @ 117 lol,

[STOK5OH]

My other hatch ran an 11.86 @ 119 w/bolt-on's and a 6$ homemade N2O kit.
Im pretty sure the one i have will run 12 oh's N/A. :woot:

[C.J.]

homemade nitrous kits are the safest

[mattmoto441]

i wish i had a corrected timeslip... :(




what was your best ET on Kearney Cruise and i will hook u up

12.8 on that crazy hot day i was there with you.

[STOK5OH]

Im more inclined to believe the 11.16.

Since when dont an 03' cobra weigh 4k?

[C.J.]

Im more inclined to believe the 11.16.

Since when dont an 03' cobra weigh 4k?

josh's old gutted cobra

[mattmoto441]

well most coupes are more in the 3600s mine is 4K with me in it

[Reaper]

So what time did he run at kearney?

[Alley]

11's aren't too hard. My first 11 sec slip was with less then 3k in mods.

[STOK5OH]

so what was yur other slip info.? 60 ft. 330,8th?

[David]

I should be able to make an 11 sec pass with my current mods and some DR's.

[mattmoto441]

I should be able to make an 11 sec pass with my current mods and some DR's.



Uncorrected ET 12.8 (sec)
Uncorrected MPH 113 (mph)

Corrected ET 12.006
Corrected MPH 120.469

[David]

so close.

I really would like to make a trip to a coast line track and make some passes.

[STOK5OH]

so what was yur other slip info.? 60 ft. 330,8th?

[smoksho]

no offense david. but thats funny. if you run a 12.0 i prob would pull a 10.xx on the spray. and i know my car dont run 10s.

[C.J.]

ya i am having a tough time believing these correction factors

[David]

I think they seem responsilbe... I cut .4 of a sec off by driving down the KCIR. Colder temps and lower alt. Cutting the same 60's. IF my clutch wouldnt have got stuck i would have ran an even faster time that i posted. I pulled a 1.85 60' but my clutch stuck and i bounced off the rev limiter all the way down. That run had 12.2 written all over it :(

So 12.0 under better conditions i find believeable.

everyone acts like no one has ever tested this and that it's a bunch of fairy tale numbers... Who can honestly raise their hand and say they've raced in nebraska and then with the same set up driven to a coastline state and ran again within a reasonable time frame??? Probably no one seeing as hardly anyone has tracked their cars in the last 2 years.

[C.J.]

i might beable to be the first then. even though after monitoring the boost problems i ahve been having i believe i may have experienced them the last time i was at the track

[mattmoto441]

http://www.smokemup.com/auto_math/index.php

[C.J.]

/\

liar

[David]

:lol:

having met matt i doubt you will see him bragging that he ran a 11.15...

but its' amazing how we hear about all these stock LS1's that run high low 13's and into the 12's bone stock... but damn it everyone here does everything they can for a low 13.

[STOK5OH]

so what was yur other slip info.? 60 ft. 330,8th?

[C.J.]

:lol:

having met matt i doubt you will see him bragging that he ran a 11.15...

but its' amazing how we hear about all these stock LS1's that run high low 13's and into the 12's bone stock... but damn it everyone here does everything they can for a low 13.

its true, but you also hear about subaru STi's running high 12s bone stock and mid 12s all day with the same mods i have

yet at the track i was at there were at least 10 subarus there and 5 of them were STi's with more mods than mine and they couldnt even crack faster than a 13.3

[Thunder]

yours must be magical, like a unicorn

[C.J.]

no i am just saying that these times like 12 second stock times are not seen ONLY because of elevation.

[Thunder]

http://unicorns.wizardio.com/images/unicorn.jpg

[STOK5OH]

worst thread,EVARR.

[Thunder]

only because no one listens to you.

[moparornocar]

I think it is a pretty good thread!

[Thunder]

^ i'm with this guy.

[STOK5OH]

benchracing,ftl.

[Alley]

U can see that unicorn's package.

[STOK5OH]

only because no one listens to you.

oh go run a 14 at sea level. :roll:

[Thunder]

go run at a track.

[moparornocar]

oh go run a 14 at sea level. :roll:

Someone said LS1s run 12 flat at sea level totally stock?

[Thunder]

supposedly a few freaks have hit upper 12s with just sticky tires. like 12.9x

[moparornocar]

go run at a track.

Yeah, Like KRP!!!! So we'll see you Oct 6th-7th?

[Thunder]

i doubt i'll be there........ maybe the weekend after?

[Alley]

I'll be there October 20th. Hopefully I can get some decent corrected times.

[Thunder]

13.3 @ 109

[Alley]

No I said corrected times. Should put me in the low 12's.

[STOK5OH]

oh sweeet Ima run a 12 oh,then I'll correct for when i have more money! Sweet I'll have a 10 sec. car! :roll:

[camaro_chic]

Congrats on the time corrected or not 11s is decent imo. I plan to go to KCIR at some point probably next year.

[DarkSlide]

U can see that unicorn's package.

NWS?

Congrats on the time.

[moparornocar]

oh sweeet Ima run a 12 oh,then I'll correct for when i have more money! Sweet I'll have a 10 sec. car! :roll:

So you have a mathimatical formula for a cash correction?

[moparornocar]

I'll be there October 20th. Hopefully I can get some decent corrected times.

I think Matt posted a link on corrections, all you need is the day you ran,the altitude, the weather info and the altitidude,the weather info for the place you want to correct to. Same as the Dyno sheet you get from dynosport ALL were corrected to sea level before Dan even prints.

[David]

^^ exactly.. i"m curious if anyone has a non-corrected dyno sheet. I have one because i specifically asked for one for the purpose of an experiment. The reality is my car in nebraska doesnt' even make 370rwhp... But when i go to the track everyone says oh you only ran XX.XX with 370rwhp. that doesn't make any ****ing sense. Using dyno corrected numbers and then comparing to uncorrected timeslips.. I'm not saying bragging about a corrrected timeslip is correct but i thikn everyone here is being fair to the idea..

[moparornocar]

^^ exactly.. i"m curious if anyone has a non-corrected dyno sheet. I have one because i specifically asked for one for the purpose of an experiment. The reality is my car in nebraska doesnt' even make 370rwhp... But when i go to the track everyone says oh you only ran XX.XX with 370rwhp. that doesn't make any ****ing sense. Using dyno corrected numbers and then comparing to uncorrected timeslips.. I'm not saying bragging about a corrrected timeslip is correct but i thikn everyone here is being fair to the idea..

I agree, If someone wants to brag about corrected numbers, Be sure to put a note telling that they are corrected numbers as I did here. Still fuuny how some get bent when talking about corrected times (even if for fun) calling bullshit and whinning about it but they are the same ones that use their corrected dyno sheets to talk about how much HP their car has? I admit the first post was misleading, But it was meant to be, I was waiting for some to ask, WTF is SL/CF?, they did and I clarified. Matt might put all his info down , he might not,only time will tell.

[David]

well matt best put his stuff down... or i'll slap him the next time i see him :)

[roo]

corrected = gayness

[moparornocar]

while we were at Dyno sport, Dan had a car that had just ran, He had an uncorrected hp of 245HP, then the corrected HP right away was 253HP. By the time they disconnected the car , got done BSn,and was ready to move it, The guy asked for a print out, The temps had dropped inside and outside right before a storm. His computer corrected the HP at that time and temp etc, It was 258hp! So what was his real HP? How did he get 5HP without even running the car again? And do you think he would show his dyno sheet without the correction?

[roo]

I've had runs that vary 40+ HP between runs. Who gives a ****. They are just general numbers.

Correcting your track times for sea level is just gay when the majority of people on this board don't live at sea level.

[DarkSlide]

Maybe if you had a corrected slip you could say you hit 11s...

[moparornocar]

I've had runs that vary 40+ HP between runs. Who gives a ****. They are just general numbers.

Correcting your track times for sea level is just gay when the majority of people on this board don't live at sea level.

I guess you did not read the entire thread? I also posted a correction with the difference from Kearney Race Park to Lincoln, I do believe there are people that race from Lincoln that run at Kearney? Why? be cause some might run at KCIR and some might run a KRP, there is a huge difference between the two in elevation etc.

For example say you ran a 14.0 @ 100 mph with a 2000 foot DA. Your friend ran a 14.3 @ 98 mph at 5000 foot DA and you want to know who's faster. ET - 14.0, trap speed - 100, measured DA - 2000, correct to DA - 5000 The result is your timeslip corrected to 5000 foot DA is 14.582 @ 96.06 mph. Your friend is running faster than you, time for some Nitrous .

[Johnny]

I guess you did not read the entire thread? I also posted a correction with the difference from Kearney Race Park to Lincoln, I do believe there are people that race from Lincoln that run at Kearney? Why? be cause some might run at KCIR and some might run a KRP, there is a huge difference between the two in elevation etc.

For example say you ran a 14.0 @ 100 mph with a 2000 foot DA. Your friend ran a 14.3 @ 98 mph at 5000 foot DA and you want to know who's faster. ET - 14.0, trap speed - 100, measured DA - 2000, correct to DA - 5000 The result is your timeslip corrected to 5000 foot DA is 14.582 @ 96.06 mph. Your friend is running faster than you, time for some Nitrous .

oh okay, see I would have just RAN my friend instead of correcting times he and I ran to see where we are at...

[Johnny]

I have to say I agree with Roo, posting uncorrected times is kinda ghey, because you werent at that level, you didnt run that time, I bet if he would have been at sea level he would not have run that time. Not taking away from his car, cause 11.8 is very decent, just saying, he didnt run that time. End of story, he does not have an 11.1 timeslip. So he didnt run that.

[moparornocar]

oh okay, see I would have just RAN my friend instead of correcting times he and I ran to see where we are at...

I guess from the example ,You cannot figure out that your "friend" does not live close enough for you to just "Run" him to find out? And he swears your POS is just slow as ****, while his badass car would own you forever! Would you not want to have an idea of if you brought enough before you or he makes the trip to just "Run"?

[moparornocar]

I have to say I agree with Roo, posting uncorrected times is kinda ghey, because you werent at that level, you didnt run that time, I bet if he would have been at sea level he would not have run that time. Not taking away from his car, cause 11.8 is very decent, just saying, he didnt run that time. End of story, he does not have an 11.1 timeslip. So he didnt run that.

I put down his actual time! Some of you are dense! It started as a joke to screw with you guys and evidently it went over your head! Talk about ghey!

[roo]

Sweet. I just *corrected* my time slip. I should run a 10.2

[moparornocar]

Sweet. I just *corrected* my time slip. I should run a 10.2

That is completly possible. If you ran your at 1500 feet below sea level!or the bottom of the ocean!

[rsisbetter]

good time! :cliffnotes:

[roo]

That is completly possible. If you ran your at 1500 feet below sea level!or the bottom of the ocean!

Drive it off a 1/4 cliff maybe :dunno:

[moparornocar]

I've had runs that vary 40+ HP between runs. Who gives a ****. They are just general numbers.

Correcting your track times for sea level is just gay when the majority of people on this board don't live at sea level.

i also find it funny that you would think this way after reading your blog on air temps and ets?

February 5, 2007 by roo.


So being how it’s really cold here right now I’m finally getting to see how air temperatures effect performance on an NA car. The following were the results of the Aurora
0* = 15.3 @ 92 mph
20* = 15.4 @ 91 mph
40* = 15.5 @ 90 mph
So for around every 20* change in temp it appears to effect performance by about a tenth of a second. This will obviously vary some from car to car.

[roo]

Those weren't corrected. It's hard to compare those times to other cars when they didn't run under the exact same conditions.

[roo]

Bottom line is the correction factor is gay.

[moparornocar]

Those weren't corrected. It's hard to compare those times to other cars when they didn't run under the exact same conditions.

No, but they show you used a scientific approach to figure out ETs at different temps as well as we (and 100% of the drag racing community) to figure out ETs at different locations. Also if you read many magazines that test your favorite cars, Most will put in very fine print that times posted were corrected to sea level.

[roo]

So it's cool to compare corrected numbers to uncorrected numbers? How many times when you're doing these comparisons are you going to know the conditions of both cars when they ran? You've corrected the numbers on one car to amplify the results but you don't have the conditions on the other car so you start comparing corrected numbers to uncorrected numbers.

[moparornocar]

Bottom line is the correction factor is gay.

Bottom line is Matt Ran 11.82 and that is at KRP which would mean at Lincoln you better run at least 11.40 to beat him when he comes back for some street racing.( of course driver error ,street conditions and so many other things come into consideration). But I am sure a car that ran 15s anywhere would be a waste of time.

[roo]

Bottom line is Matt Ran 11.82 and that is at KRP which would mean at Lincoln you better run at least 11.40 to beat him when he comes back for some street racing.( of course driver error ,street conditions and so many other things come into consideration). But I am sure a car that ran 15s anywhere would be a waste of time.

I already told you my *corrected* factor is a 10.2

[moparornocar]

So it's cool to compare corrected numbers to uncorrected numbers? How many times when you're doing these comparisons are you going to know the conditions of both cars when they ran? You've corrected the numbers on one car to amplify the results but you don't have the conditions on the other car so you start comparing corrected numbers to uncorrected numbers.

You are correct, To make it an accurate comparision, you would need to do your home work. When I compared to a car that ran in Texas, we also got the altitude, altimeter settings inches HG, the dew point, the track temps ect. to then calculate the D/A and then the correction or else the results will be scewed and misleading.

Bottom line, this thread was A ,misleading(did that for fun) B, truthful (actual times were posted along with addmitting the correction factor) And C, educational (for those willing to accept and learn something they did not already know)

[roo]

One thing I've learned is corrected times don't mean ****

[DarkSlide]

Roo, just a question. What did the dsm put down? Corrected, uncorrected? Curious.

[roo]

137whp uncorrected

[Cobra Commander]

:lol:

[Cobra Commander]

I found your sheet!

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/Brook32v/02%20SVT%20Focus/0902071856.jpg

[roo]

Thanks. I couldn't remember where I put my copy

[roo]

So when will you guys be back in the Lincoln area?

[g54b]

Correcting for Barometric pressure has very little effect on a force induction engine. A better correction for force induction would be a temp correction. So, using this logic, I could say I ran a 11.9 at 90 degrees but post up a 11.1 time and immediately failed to mention this was corrected for an outside temp of 10 degrees.

It is what it is, forget all the corrections.

On the other hand, 11.anything is a nice run. congrats.

Come down to lincoln and we'll line em up.

Dave

[roo]

Agreed. 11's are fast regardless which is why you shouldn't have to fluff it up with some correction number.

[mattmoto441]

Thanks. I couldn't remember where I put my copy



ya i would of lost that sheet also :lol:

[Cobra Commander]

Hey! I was proud of that! The Focus did good. :(

[roo]

Haha, that's the focus dyno sheet? It did do better than I expected.

[mattmoto441]

Hey! I was proud of that! The Focus did good. :(



lol el Focus eah:? looks like it hit Vtak around 5200rpm lol



well here is the Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP3dK7SWDxw

[roo]

So when are you coming down for your spanking?

[mattmoto441]

So when are you coming down for your spanking?



:jerkit:


well i have been there a few times and got nothing outta it soo if you meet me 1/2way i can set something up but untill i have to hit the dyno again i have better things to do then to take you for a walk

[roo]

:nervous:

[Cobra Commander]

TPI > 32v

[roo]

TPI > 32v

QFT

TPI CAN NEVER LOSE!!!

[moparornocar]

Correcting for Barometric pressure has very little effect on a force induction engine. A better correction for force induction would be a temp correction. So, using this logic, I could say I ran a 11.9 at 90 degrees but post up a 11.1 time and immediately failed to mention this was corrected for an outside temp of 10 degrees.

It is what it is, forget all the corrections.

On the other hand, 11.anything is a nice run. congrats.

Come down to lincoln and we'll line em up.

Dave

When doing corrections we use air temps and track temps along with many other factors including barametric pressure.The other thing about this thread is I did not fail to mention the correction factor, Some just failed to understand it?

[Cobra Commander]

Haha, that's the focus dyno sheet? It did do better than I expected.

I think that ***** has 15's in her. I need to find someone with a G-Tech........ :slapboobies:

[roo]

:lol:

I didn't think amber would let your race it.

[roo]

It would probably be a good run for Matt. I think they corrected it the wrong way.

[Cobra Commander]

Hahahaha.

[Cobra Commander]

:lol:

I didn't think amber would let your race it.

I "could", but I really don't like dumping the clutch on a FWD. I am weaksauce. :(

[roo]

meh, judging by his video I don't think you would have to launch very hard to take him out of the hole.

[moparornocar]

Yeah that was kinda slow, 1.8 60ft. He was definately sleeping on the line.

[roo]

1.5 or ban

[roo]

What was his corrected 60ft?

[STOK5OH]

.9

[Johnny]

I put down his actual time! Some of you are dense! It started as a joke to screw with you guys and evidently it went over your head! Talk about ghey!

no we saw that you posted his actual time, but you are still being a d-bag posting corrected times

[STOK5OH]

I still say it ran faster than an 11.82 and he's jus trying to be a "hustla" 'n' shiet.

[moparornocar]

no we saw that you posted his actual time, but you are still being a d-bag posting corrected times

This comming from a guy that put up a rant bitching about how someone did not assemble his engine correctly! Could not figure out his dumbass blewup his own engine? I bet if you would have added or changed the oil, It might still be running? So seeing as how ****ing retarded you are I am not suprised you could not get the joke!

[Johnny]

:jerkit:


well i have been there a few times and got nothing outta it soo if you meet me 1/2way i can set something up but untill i have to hit the dyno again i have better things to do then to take you for a walk

omg wow seriously now you are being a d-bag. I will laugh when you come down and he spanks the **** out of you.

what a ****ing tool

[Alley]

What does cutting a 1.8 60ft have to do with sleeping at the line?

[Johnny]

This comming from a guy that put up a rant bitching about how someone did not assemble his engine correctly! Could not figure out his dumbass blewup his own engine? I bet if you would have added or changed the oil, It might still be running? So seeing as how ****ing retarded you are I am not suprised you could not get the joke!

oh yeah cause I ran it out of oil, you clearly are having mental issues.

I knew that the engine was starved of oil. and I knew what I was doing when i drove it to the my garage. I knew it was going to do what it did to the engine. You ****ing tool. I did not care to have it towed so I drove it. There was nothing special about the engine. Not to mention when I dove into it more there were a few other things I found that were a little screwy but meh, I am not worried about it. Could I have stopped my oil pump from locking up? no, was it low on oil, no. Are you retarded, yes.

seriously, we got the "joke" you were correcting your son's time slip wow special...

[David]

no we saw that you posted his actual time, but you are still being a d-bag posting corrected times


How does that make him a dbag for posting corrected time???? It's not like he tried to pass it off as the time he ran... Clear as day says corrected.

[moparornocar]

What does cutting a 1.8 60ft have to do with sleeping at the line?

I was referring to the video, The 60 ft and how he was sleeping or leaving late on his reaction time. Most trips to the track he gets a pretty good jump and cuts some good lights, That day he was off?

[David]

Raise your hand if your car has been to a dragstrip in the last 2 years. Regardless of time.


:happy:<----- This will work for raising hand.

[roo]

:happy:

[David]

omg wow seriously now you are being a d-bag. I will laugh when you come down and he spanks the **** out of you.

what a ****ing tool


I'll put $5 on matt for this weekend.

[roo]

I'll put $5 on matt for this weekend.

Roll race?

[moparornocar]

oh yeah cause I ran it out of oil, you clearly are having mental issues.

I knew that the engine was starved of oil. and I knew what I was doing when i drove it to the my garage. I knew it was going to do what it did to the engine. You ****ing tool. I did not care to have it towed so I drove it. There was nothing special about the engine. Not to mention when I dove into it more there were a few other things I found that were a little screwy but meh, I am not worried about it. Could I have stopped my oil pump from locking up? no, was it low on oil, no. Are you retarded, yes.

seriously, we got the "joke" you were correcting your son's time slip wow special...

It took your dumbass half a day from when you were crying about who assembled your engine to when others pointed out that YOU ****ed it up and no one else. Now you are trying to say you knew it all along! You sir are the idiot! reread your own post!

[David]

Roll race?


Dig

[Cobra Commander]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/Brook32v/Internet%20Stuff/ballsacking5xn.jpg

[roo]

Dig

In that case hopefully this guy still has the part I need and can get it to me by this weekend. Not like it'll take more than 20 minutes to install it.

[Bobby Light]

is there a correction factor for a 200hp car vs a 400hp car?

[Bobby Light]

btw STOK5OH by 1 car...always by 1 car...

[STOK5OH]

Im not sure a 12 oh car will do so well against a 11.16 car.:(

[STOK5OH]

Everyone in this thread needs to calm down,OR...let's all get together friday night and do some racing??

[smoksho]

if somebody had some 15" sticky tires i still got a full bottle. would be pleased to lend some ass handings down.

[Bobby Light]

i would but another person bought them last nite...

[STOK5OH]

I have two full bottles,and sticky tires,and a leather air freshener,and no hood,and a cracked windshield,and broken front seats,and a cd player,and a poor alignment,and trashcans for exhaust and..current insurance,till it lapses.

[David]

I think the racing makes the most sense. THis thread is ubber gay....


There are 8 pages of butthurtness becaus matt has a corrected time.. big ****ing deal... i dont' even get why anyone cares...

[STOK5OH]

i would but another person bought them last nite...


that asshole!

[STOK5OH]

I think the racing makes the most sense. THis thread is ubber gay....


There are 8 pages of people making fun of him and his dad becaus matt has a corrected time..

corrected.:lol:

[roo]

****, talk about an impulse buy :lol:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/156/buyho2.png

[David]

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[David]

OK since we have so many experts on this board... will someone please explain to me how corrected times are a complete joke... Also while your at it... please produce an example where you proved this.

[STOK5OH]

it's the same as correcting for future mods.

[roo]

OK since we have so many experts on this board... will someone please explain to me how corrected times are a complete joke... Also while your at it... please produce an example where you proved this.

Sure will right after you produce an example that proved that calculation was correct.

There are so many ****ing variables, especially when you're dealing with forced induction.

[STOK5OH]

my car runs 10.80's...corrected for new heads,200 shot and minitubs. math don't lie.

[David]

it's the same as correcting for future mods.

so your saying you have no answer then???

[David]

my car runs 10.80's...corrected for new heads,200 shot and minitubs. math don't lie.

still no answer...

[STOK5OH]

is there a correction for ***** size? Like is my 5'' actually 10+ in wyoming???

[Bobby Light]

its a joke to me because you didnt ACTUALLY RUN that.

while we are at it lets correct

Track Conditions
Tire Temp
Oil Temp and Condition
Drag - wind speed - Tires - car design (a 2000 vette vs a 1969 chevy pickup arent the same so there needs to be a correction for that)
Driver Correction based on years driving and runs on a track

need i go on with this flimsy crap?

[STOK5OH]

still no answer...



lame,there's yur answer.

[Bobby Light]

btw when a funny car goes down the track do they use corrected times?

[Cobra Commander]

There are 8 pages of butthurtness

You should ban everyone. :lol:

[STOK5OH]

well wutever,im tellin my gf that im huge in wyoming.

[Cobra Commander]

still no answer...
There are so many ****ing variables, especially when you're dealing with forced induction.

[STOK5OH]

nuh uh nuh uh nuh uh!!!

[STOK5OH]

i always correct for co-efficient drag.

[David]

http://www.nhra.com/2002/sportsman/news/February/021501.html

i bet these guys have no idea what they are doing....


*going to lunch*..

[Cobra Commander]

****, talk about an impulse buy :lol:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/156/buyho2.png

What the **** dude. That was your TPI carb swap money. :madlost:

[STOK5OH]

i have an adapter that'll bolt a q-jet in place of the tb,if Roo wants to borrow it.

[roo]

http://www.nhra.com/2002/sportsman/news/February/021501.html

i bet these guys have no idea what they are doing....


*going to lunch*..

Sometime I wonder if you have any idea what you are doing.

[Bobby Light]

lets all bracket race too.

[STOK5OH]

i have a throttle stop.

[Bobby Light]

cool, ill get the stick on numbers so we can all dial in.

[Bobby Light]

wait a minute, you have a supercharger and im N/A, isnt there a correction for that?

[Johnny]

I am with spencer YOU DIDNT RUN THE TIMES end of ****ing story.

YES I ****ED UP MY ENGINE. END OF ****ING STORY. I knew I was messing it up when I was doing it. oh and david: :happy: raising my hand.

Who gives a flying **** what your car runs in Texas or florida, if its here it runs times that it ran at the track here.

[Johnny]

I just think its cute that his daddy does so much typing for him.
Dont get me wrong, I think his car is badass, I give him props because not everyone can afford somthing like that, and from the sound of things he has worked for it and not just been handed 50k from daddy to buy and mod a car. He works, I def say props to you on that one. BUT whats the point in posting the corrected time. We are a very bored group of individuals, we find something we dont like then we flame it.

welcome to Lincoln

[DarkSlide]

Apparently no one else sees his point.

[Bobby Light]

btw john answer your pm and shoot me an offer *****

[Bobby Light]

i see his point, and im sure a corrected time has its uses.

but the fact is, it didnt ACTUALLY run that time and its of no use here.

[STOK5OH]

$4
cash

[Cobra Commander]

I had Taco Bueno today. It was ****ing awesome. Anyone else like it?

[roo]

its of no use here.

[Bobby Light]

drew loves the bueno

[Cobra Commander]

I don't blame him.

[DarkSlide]

But he stated the actually time that it ran...

[Bobby Light]

in the original post he didnt.

[Johnny]

i see his point, and im sure a corrected time has its uses.

but the fact is, it didnt ACTUALLY run that time and its of no use here.

so true so true

[Johnny]

But he stated the actually time that it ran...

in the original post he didnt.

which is where the flameing insued from.

had he done that then it would have "been a joke" that would not have "gone over our heads"

[Jasen]

LOL
I still have some window marker from the stang......

I saw a reference saying someone better run faster than an 11.1 to win a race on the street???
Do you have a correction factor for an un prepped street with varying pavement surface types?
That is SO rare a 2wd car / truck will run anywhere CLOSE to what it runs at the track as it does on the street. There's videos all over with Parish laying the smack on 9 sec. race cars with a truck that never ran faster than a 10.0.
This corrected horse **** is bench racing. THEORY! Corrected times assume SAME track, SAME prep, EXACT SAME driving technique at a different altitude. There are a number of assumptions being made that are not factored into the THEORETICAL corrected time. What if the coolant temp was 10* higher?
The point is a 6 speed manual high horsepower Cobra is difficult for even the most skilled driver to back up a modest time on a track, much less repeat a personal best time on the same day and same track. Where's that in the correction factor?
NHRA pro racers use some correction factors at different tracks, but you're comparing a street car to a $1 million race car with MANY more devices that remove the human error in racing.
Weather stations in racing, as most people know who have been around racing are used to tweak fuel / timing on mechanically controlled systems, mechanical FI and carburetors to correct for air on a given day at a given track. That Cobra is a forced inducted EFI car that has a barometric sensor and intake air temp built into the engine management system to correct for changes in air density. Something else to consider that is missing from this whole correction factor theory. Should you take that Cobra to a sea level track, log your boost pressure PSIG is PSIG, it doesn't matter what altitude you are at, it will be the same. The Cobra I was involved with was ran at Edinburg International Raceway in Edinburg Texas at sea level and at Nebraska Motorplex, same set up and the times varied by .1 on motor passes between the tracks. :dunno:
Not trying to bring hate, but correction factors when it comes to E/Ts are very theoretical. Much like using 1/4 mile vs HP calculators to calculate what a car runs based on power vs weight ratio, those will get you in the ball park but not to the gnats ass on what the car will actually run because there are too many assumptions being made in the mathematical calculation.
Street racing throws track corrections straight out the window.

BTW: Congrats in the 11 sec. pass. :)

[David]

E/Ts are very theoretical.

I think he's well aware of this. If anyone actually read the post the reason he even asked for a corrected timeslip is because of a lil comp. he has going with a friend at lower alt. Just leveling the playing field for fun... I doubt either matt nor his dad has serious racers as they are would dare whip out their wallet and bet that matt would infact run exactly his corrected time...

Corrected times are just some math formual someone said hey we live here we should get an extra 10%... it's been tested to give an approx.

I think everyone misses the fact that matt and his dad have spent a good portion of their lives deeply involved in racing and not just on the street.

[Lepa]

18.5 @ 73MPH is fast right? thats what my truck does....

[Snake_Eyes]

I'm moving to Wyoming. :bananaboner:

[David]

yes.. bigger the better.

[Johnny]

and thank you Jasen

[moparornocar]

I just think its cute that his daddy does so much typing for him.
Dont get me wrong, I think his car is badass, I give him props because not everyone can afford somthing like that, and from the sound of things he has worked for it and not just been handed 50k from daddy to buy and mod a car. He works, I def say props to you on that one. BUT whats the point in posting the corrected time. We are a very bored group of individuals, we find something we dont like then we flame it.

welcome to Lincoln

I am not doing any typing for Matt , I started the thread and I am typing for myself. You are right Matt does buy his own cars and toys (Cobra, Gt, Blown Duster, Ram Charger, 06 Honda CRF450) At 22, that is pretty freaking good! Am I proud of him, Hell yeah that is what dads are supposed to do, Doesn't yours?, Do I help him with his cars (mods and ****) Hell yeah! ( I do own a pretty good amount to tools and equipment) doesn't yours? But as far a speaking for him? If you know him you will know he is big enough to speak for himself!

As for the corrected times, the first page has the puchline and also the top off the second page. You seem to be in the few that could not actually grasp it? If and when we do come down for some racing (that will be upto Matt as it's his car) I look forward to meeting you!

[roo]

I look forward to meeting you too

Cobra-----> :bdsm: <------Me

[Lepa]

Matt bring the cuda...

[STOK5OH]

bring some noise.
noplo,ftl.
:lost:

[roo]

:nx:

[STOK5OH]

only homos use nawz.

[roo]

only homos use one bottle. I use 3 :nx: :nx: :nx:

[STOK5OH]

pffft...i have Harry on speed dial.

[mattmoto441]

well as for a corrected time being bench racing??? well you guy know a hell of a lot of that it wasnt too long ago when Stock50h was bench racing me with a car that didnt even have a motor in it:bolt: Also Wes(jwcardy) has a buddy in louisiana that has a 03 cobra with 456rwhp and just last week he ran a 11.87 @ 124 @ red river dragstrip with the elevation 340ft and the D/A of the day in the 380s now my car ran a 11.82 @ 120 @ KRP with the elevation @ 2350ft and the D/A in the 4400s. now do you think his car running so close to mine in ET if he came up here or i went down there it Would run any where to as fast as mine being that he is 100hp down from me??

:happy: = been to the track with both my cars 10 times in the last 2yrs :bolt:

anyways


00mustanggt How did you end up at the end of the day for a ET?? and how did my DR's that i loaned ya hook up? Also how did your Bro fair after filling up with gas? :lol: i wish i could stayed longer but i had to roll out for a B-day party. Thanks for dropping the DR's off with AL after you where done with them. I also did get a few of your guys runs on tape i could put up for you later.

[David]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/davidnewman3/Paul.jpg

[roo]

So what would that mean if your friend's buddy's cousin's dog's owner came up here and beat you?

[roo]

:gaysex:

[mattmoto441]

So what would that mean if your friend's buddy's cousin's dog's owner came up here and beat you?


well i post the link to his runs and see what you have to say

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5556746#post5556746

why do you think cars in Denver run so slo in compairson to what we run here?? my buddy that raced alley back in the day ran a best ET @ bandamere with a full bolt on Stalled LS1 with a 150shot of 13.6 @ 109 and took the same setup down to scribner and ran a 12.50 @ 116 2 weeks later?

[roo]

well i post the link to his runs and see what you have to say

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5556746#post5556746

why do you think cars in Denver run so slo in compairson to what we run here?? my buddy that raced alley back in the day ran a best ET @ bandamere with a full bolt on Stalled LS1 with a 150shot of 13.6 @ 109 and took the same setup down to scribner and ran a 12.50 @ 116 2 weeks later?

I lived in Denver for several years and raced at bandimere quite a bit and there wasn't even 4 tenths of a second difference between bandimere and scribner when I ran and that's comparing 5800ft to 1,200 ft. Now you're sitting here nit picking the difference between 2,000ft on a forced induction vehicle?

There are way too many ****ing variables to sit there and try to claim that you would have ran an 11.15 down at your buddies track.

[mattmoto441]

I lived in Denver for several years and raced at bandimere quite a bit and there wasn't even 4 tenths of a second difference between bandimere and scribner when I ran and that's comparing 5800ft to 1,200 ft. Now you're sitting here nit picking the difference between 2,000ft on a forced induction vehicle?

There are way too many ****ing variables.




bla bla whatever dude i dont care about the corrected times. you just do what you gotta do to whatever you got to think you can beat me

[roo]

I wasn't really questioning whether or not I could beat you, I just want to know when you want to do it to make the results official?

[STOK5OH]

Let's all race friday,im ready to get beat.


AND..mattmoto,me talkin **** in your ''im so fast,ima call out the board'' thread wasn't ''benchracing''...and your still assuming it didnt run at that point. :roll:
So bring the 11.15 vert down and let's all have some fun...AND ya i know it's gay were all sitting here telling u to drive 3 hours to us as oppose. But frankly my car is a pile and I don't have the extra money for 91 octane to drive that far. Your car is more capable of roadtrips,naturally.
Let's all settle it on the concrete!

[Thunder]

just race and lets get this over with. Matt i'll even buy you dinner for coming down :lol:

[STOK5OH]

and buy ''dinner'' he means give u roadhead.

[roo]

and by "roadhead" he means suck on your ***** while you're driving down the road

[STOK5OH]

and by ***** i mean wiener.

[Bobby Light]

and by wiener he means THAT MA FAKIN OSCA MAYA *****

[roo]

el kako

[STOK5OH]

dos wango

[Thunder]

or i mean, purchase food from a restaurant

[roo]

:lol:

[BossRoss]

:mullet:

[mattmoto441]

Let's all race friday,im ready to get beat.


AND..mattmoto,me talkin **** in your ''im so fast,ima call out the board'' thread wasn't ''benchracing''...and your still assuming it didnt run at that point. :roll:
So bring the 11.15 vert down and let's all have some fun...AND ya i know it's gay were all sitting here telling u to drive 3 hours to us as oppose. But frankly my car is a pile and I don't have the extra money for 91 octane to drive that far. Your car is more capable of roadtrips,naturally.
Let's all settle it on the concrete!




my thread wasnt calling out the board it was saying that NP sucks ballz b/c there are no cars to race here.

i was told that you didnt have your motor picked up yet from texas when i posted that.

also days after i posted the thread i came down to L and O to race and didnt get any but some rednecks in a old chevy that was supposta run 10s

anyways im down to race im not into this **** talking to a 17in screen i would much rather be racing any1 that wants to line them up win or lose


hell if you wanna race me just say lets race we dont have to go through all the f-u's and suck this or your gay just to throw down a race


the next time i get time i will be down to run. just this time i need to know im gonna get a race b4 i go b/c $3.25 a gal. really hurts the pocket book

[BossRoss]

$3.25. goddamn. i paid 2.60 today

[Thunder]

2.98 for 92 here at BP... w00t!

[STOK5OH]

my thread wasnt calling out the board it was saying that NP sucks ballz b/c there are no cars to race here.

i was told that you didnt have your motor picked up yet from texas when i posted that.

also days after i posted the thread i came down to L and O to race and didnt get any but some rednecks in a old chevy that was supposta run 10s

anyways im down to race im not into this **** talking to a 17in screen i would much rather be racing any1 that wants to line them up win or lose


hell if you wanna race me just say lets race we dont have to go through all the f-u's and suck this or your gay just to throw down a race


the next time i get time i will be down to run. just this time i need to know im gonna get a race b4 i go b/c $3.25 a gal. really hurts the pocket book
Well,someone lied to u bout the status of my car at that time.
and uhh...i never said ''Your gay or F U'' and such, but if you wanna come down friday I'll guarantee you 3 cars to race,likely more.

[BossRoss]

and theres always a jeep there to tow away mustangs if needed.

[BossRoss]

cuz it wouldnt be the first time

[David]

the boss ross has spoken.

[mattmoto441]

Well,someone lied to u bout the status of my car at that time.
and uhh...i never said ''Your gay or F U'' and such, but if you wanna come down friday I'll guarantee you 3 cars to race,likely more.



well the f_u and your gay stuff wasnt then or by u it was more everyone else in general of how the boards work


3 cars who???? not the old chevy again:rolleye1: i killed him with no boost in 3rd and 4th:(

[STOK5OH]

well,at least the barbie jeep is good for something other than transporting sorority chicks to and from the beach.

[roo]

I already told you I would race you

[BossRoss]

well,at least the barbie jeep is good for something other than transporting sorority chicks to and from the beach.



sadly i can only do one at a time since i dont have the back seat in

[STOK5OH]

well,that's me,Roo and prolly the starion for u to race.
Plus i know of 2-3 other lx's that'll likly come race u if i call and tell em' your gonna be here for sure.

[David]

i'd race but i'm a lil outta this bracket right now.

[BossRoss]

get justingsx out. if he's got it tuned on high boost he should be there with you guys

[STOK5OH]

no,we dont wanna be waiting for spool all night.

[David]

I"ll come out and race justin... we've been meaning to get this done for awhile... I'd suggest alot of video cameras and not putting george in charge of editing... we'd like the video done before xmas.

I will gladly host any video.

[BossRoss]

can i come use ur comp and unload all the pics off my camera onto my external hd. then i'll have over 20 minutes to use for recording

[David]

lol... ya mang thats fine... i have more pc storage than i know what to do with.


i wish i still had my camera... it was shitty video but it was better than nothin. IF someone get 1320 ft of USB cord we can use a bunch of web cams

[STOK5OH]

i say we call mr. 1320 to come by himself and sh00t it.

[BossRoss]

well i've got my external hd to put em on so wouldnt need any space