WL: Thunder

[Thunder]

So i'm tryin to do this get in shape thing again... I've been sticking to my no pop thing (haven't had a pop since december 26th 2007, which is 201 days) but now I'm upping it by being more active than just the lifting/walking I do at work (trust me, I do a lot of that)

2 weeks ago I weighed in at 281 at night. I just weighed myself a few minutes ago at 272. Stamina is slowly getting better as I'm making it through more games of basketball as weeks go on.

I'm not going hardcore on the diet, just making small changes. Less sugar and "healthier" meals (been eating fruit and yogurt as well as drinking just water for lunches).

[David]

Good luck and welcome to the club?

[Thunder]

what can i say, you've helped inspire, i see justin postin up his effort... i might as well join this club.

today was a true test of pushin my fatself to the limits... 4.5 hrs of basketball today (2 in the morning 2.5 in the evening)... holy crap I'm beat.

[s13curtis]

I'm attempting to join the club too. I've been eating a lot better and still drinking a lot of water.

basketball was fun today but wow I have a long way to go before I can return to my high school weight of 160.

[Thunder]

I'm attempting to join the club too. I've been eating a lot better and still drinking a lot of water.

basketball was fun today but wow I have a long way to go before I can return to my high school weight of 160.

NO REBOUND 4 U!
:lol:

[s13curtis]

I was decent a couple years ago when i wasn't fat, but wow it's embarrassing to play right now because I can't move, haha. makes me want to work even harder.

[Thunder]

I was decent a couple years ago when i wasn't fat, but wow it's embarrassing to play right now because I can't move, haha. makes me want to work even harder.

being fat makes you less agile and kills quickness. Hence why I'm trying to .. unfat myself.

ha.

[David]

Curtis used to be good enough to play with me.

[Cotnerdude]

lets play more football I really want a well practiced team

[AWeb80]

Yay for Thunder


If you ever want to shoot hoops or run a couple miles, just let me know.....

[¿umop apisdn]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/the-gee/SRT%20Dyno%20Day%20-%20June%201st/IMG_1712.jpg

yeah, the water's nice, but eating McDonalds isn't helping!

i keed, i keed. I'm damn lucky to be skinny, because I don't have the motivation to do that ****. When my metabolism goes out, I'm ****ed. Hello fat!

[Burntz]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/the-gee/SRT%20Dyno%20Day%20-%20June%201st/IMG_1712.jpg

I'm damn lucky to be skinny, because I don't have the motivation to do that ****. When my metabolism goes out, I'm ****ed. Hello fat!

x2! lol

[AWeb80]

So i'm tryin to do this get in shape thing again... I've been sticking to my no pop thing (haven't had a pop since december 26th 2007, which is 201 days)



side fact.

it takes ~30 glasses of water to neutralize the acidity of one can of pop.....isn't that crazy.

There is a theory going around that people w/ bodies on the acidic side of things are more susceptible to sickness/diseases and people w/ neutral bodies are healthier...

makes sense.

So the way I think, milk is a pretty neutralizing food....I drink lots of milk and rarely get sick

/ hijack

[Jasen]

I am doing this as well. Staying away from water....drinking more Budweiser.

[AeroSS_87]

^ he's on the 300 or liver bust plan. :lol:

[coop]

So i'm tryin to do this get in shape thing again... I've been sticking to my no pop thing (haven't had a pop since december 26th 2007, which is 201 days)



side fact.

it takes ~30 glasses of water to neutralize the acidity of one can of pop.....isn't that crazy.

There is a theory going around that people w/ bodies on the acidic side of things are more susceptible to sickness/diseases and people w/ neutral bodies are healthier...

makes sense.

So the way I think, milk is a pretty neutralizing food....I drink lots of milk and rarely get sick

/ hijack


did you read my lemon and 2 qts of water? prolly not.....its a way to detoxify the body

[spoonraker]

Alright **** this I'm gonna lose weight too.

Did you know I used to weigh 180 pounds? :ohnoes:

[¿umop apisdn]

did you read my lemon and 2 qts of water? prolly not.....its a way to detoxify the body

You just eat a lemon and drink 2 quarts of water? Is that daily?

[99dakRT]

did you read my lemon and 2 qts of water? prolly not.....its a way to detoxify the body

You just eat a lemon and drink 2 quarts of water? Is that daily?

I'm guessing you just mix lemon juice with the water.. It also helps break down kidney stones:cry:

[coop]

did you read my lemon and 2 qts of water? prolly not.....its a way to detoxify the body

You just eat a lemon and drink 2 quarts of water? Is that daily?

once a week (i did it on saturdays)


you eat the lemon like an orange and drink a few qts of water to get it dispersed....cleans out all that processed perservatives and toxins

[AWeb80]

did you read my lemon and 2 qts of water? prolly not.....its a way to detoxify the body

You just eat a lemon and drink 2 quarts of water? Is that daily?

once a week (i did it on saturdays)


you eat the lemon like an orange and drink a few qts of water to get it dispersed....cleans out all that processed perservatives and toxins

EW. I'd like to do that, but I don't like lemons. can you mix the juice with the water? Or at least make a smoothie with a whole lemon in it? what did it do to your bowels?

[coop]

i used to eat lemons like oranges as a kid.....so i just eat them that way....but i guess you can mix them into water....but just water.....anything else and you defeat the purpose of the acids getting absorbed.....

my bowels did nothing....i pee more on that day.....but nothing unbearable

[Cotnerdude]

sounds interesting

[coop]

just googled and heres a few articles
http://www.articlesbase.com/alternative-medicine-articles/why-detoxify-your-body-with-lemon-juice-475263.html

http://www.momsorganichouse.com/a-lemon-a-day-helps-detoxify-and-cleanse-the-sludge-away/

^ yes momsorganichouse.com


(they do it daily but i find this excessive if you are on any supplement diet aka vitamins, protein, creatine)

[Cotnerdude]

so its a good thing that I always want lemon with my water

[AWeb80]

sounds interesting

Does The Acid Tear Your Mouth Up?

[coop]

^ um you ever had a lemon in your life?

[Cotnerdude]

I am like coop, I used to est them like oranges as a kid. I still like them a lot. I wonder if this works in sun tea.

[¿umop apisdn]

Can I just start drinking a lot of lemonade? Or does the sugar in that negate the lemon?

[David]

eating lemons? that just sound like a way to produce sores in ones mouth...

[Cotnerdude]

dont act like you dont already have them

[coop]

Can I just start drinking a lot of lemonade? Or does the sugar in that negate the lemon?

no you cannot

[Cotnerdude]

what about tea?

[¿umop apisdn]

what about urine? It's yellow

[coop]

HOLY **** YOU ****S

pure tea aka loose leaf tea might be ok......but anything processed you are defeating the purpose.....JUST EAT A LEMON AND DRINK SOME WATER YA TARDS

:)

[¿umop apisdn]

urine's KINDA processed...

[Cotnerdude]

HOLY **** YOU ****S

pure tea aka loose leaf tea might be ok......but anything processed you are defeating the purpose.....JUST EAT A LEMON AND DRINK SOME WATER YA TARDS

:)

your not nice:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[coop]

HOLY **** YOU ****S

pure tea aka loose leaf tea might be ok......but anything processed you are defeating the purpose.....JUST EAT A LEMON AND DRINK SOME WATER YA TARDS

:)

your not nice:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

wanna play football today?

[ali]

Do what I do, dont eat ANY fast food(I havent had MC and BK for over a year) lift weights every other day(or every day), and ride your bike to work. (Also helps out ALOT on gas)

[AWeb80]

^ um you ever had a lemon in your life?

um, do lemon drops count?


I hate fruit......I only like apples, bananas and blueberries......

[regal403]

Did you know I used to weigh 180 pounds? :ohnoes:
Did you know I used to weigh 10 pounds? :ohnoes:

[Thunder]

Update:

Right now I'm sitting at 271 lbs. So from my very first post I lost only 1 lb. However, how I feel... night and day. I've never been more agile or had as much burst. My back feels good, my knees feel better. The biggest thing IM trying to do now is keep hydrated during the day with water and setting a better sleeping pattern and getting at least 6-7 hrs per night. Seems to be working so far.

[Thunder]

recovery time ftw, tuesday night and im feelin good.

[95Banshee]

need motivation. every 100 lb=.1 in the 1/4 mile

[toom1h]

and every broke transmission is = 9.0

[Thunder]

update:

252.2 Lbs

[KyleJ]

:woot:

[Thunder]

The pop streak is still alive too, right now at 411 days or 1 year 1 month and 2 weeks.

[Sileightyman]

I read that as "poop" not pop

[Thunder]

i feel bad, i ate wings tonite for the first time in a few weeks.. :(

[Lt4TransAm]

Wings are good for you!

[cole]

yes, yes they are

[Thunder]

255.2 lbs b4 bedtime.... lowest I can remember since I started caring (years at least)

[STOK5OH]

+2 lbs in 3 weeks here. :D

[coop]

beastly on both accounts

[Z28]

i lost 5lbs last week..i stopped eating a salad for lunch and dinner

[Thunder]

UPDATE!!1!1one

249.8 LBs this morning... 250.8 before bed last night. Slowly but surely. Goal was 250 or less by start of spring flag football season... as long as I keep working at it, I will have met my goal weeks early, :woot:

[¿umop apisdn]

:woot:

[coop]

great job ahmad

[Thunder]

thanks, you have helped me in this process (burning calories trying to chase you round the court ha)

my new goal will to be 230 by end of football season.
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[Burntz]

at a boy!! keep it up and you'll keep losing weight until your at the right size for your frame. Then you'll be lifting and wanna gain weight again haha

[Thunder]

i don't want less than 220 lbs. If for some reason I got that low, I'd start bulking. Ideally I'd like to be a fairly muscular 240 lbs with a 10% bf (a lofty goal that would take at least a year of hard work)
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[Burntz]

its a really good goal though

[Thunder]

my frame would allow for it i think. Its just goimg to be a matter of hard work and the right supplements
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[jeff5755]

Where are you guys playing basketball? My biggest issue with working out is that it has to be something fun for me, or I will not do it. I love basketball, but typically can't find anyone to play.

[Thunder]

sundays at unl, sometimes a random tuesday or wednesday night
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[jeff5755]

sundays at unl, sometimes a random tuesday or wednesday night
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Well, I'm not a student there. But any time you guys want to play outside or on a public court lmk. I'll be down.

[Thunder]

you can get into unl if a student sponsors you. costs 6 bux. as for outdoors, i'll post up whenever i can like i did wednesday
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[jeff5755]

Sounds good. I'm down to pay $6 to play.

[Thunder]

yeah its worth it. we play intense basketball for about 2 hrs.
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[Thunder]

Ok, so I just stepped up and ordered some supplements.

Pre Workout- Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude (http://www.dpsnutrition.net/get_item_cd017.htm) ( Creatine, Taurine, Tyrosine, Betaine Anhydrous)

Intra Workout- Controlled Labs Purple Wraath (http://www.dpsnutrition.net/item.asp?n=CD016)

Post Workout- Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein Chocolate Flavor (http://www.dpsnutrition.net/item.asp?n=ON402)

Everyday Multivitamin (recommendation taken from Coop)- Now Foods ADAM (http://www.dpsnutrition.net/item.asp?n=NO088)

I bought it all from DPSNutrition.com ... I put all the same things in BB Superstore cart and DPS was about 13 dollars cheaper. I also got a free shirt :D

Anyways, I figure I've lost 30 lbs since last year just by cleaning up my diet and working out more. I want to step it up and get a boost going into this summer. I'll be updating my WL more frequently now, including measurements. This will help me keep track of progress better and stay better motivated I think...

[Burntz]

You're gonna be amazed at how quick you gain muscle and drop the weight. Actually, your weight will probably not drop a whole lot as you'll be gaining alot of muscle, but you're going to slim down quicker then you have

[coop]

gl getting purple wraath down haha.....its disgusting as all hell....but it works....


and i told you dps nutrition is cheaper.....and yes after 100 you get a shirt or a shaker...i have a few of both haha

[Burntz]

I personally have really liked my gains from Myotech but other people have said they don't like it.. idk.

[coop]

I personally have really liked my gains from Myotech but other people have said they don't like it.. idk.

not familiar....myoshock and celltech or mesotech mebbe?....all muscletech products which means two things....dont work and overpriced

[coop]

and ahmads list is right on....i would have done SizeON rather than GreenMag though...cuz it tastes awesome and is really works well...

[Thunder]

and ahmads list is right on....i would have done SizeON rather than GreenMag though...cuz it tastes awesome and is really works well...

It was between the Gaspari and CL, everyone was raving about the taste of GreenMAG and its effectiveness. So I just went with that. As for purple wraath...hahahaha.. yeah I've read about its ability to mix and aftertaste, but people did say it works very well, especially for cardio workout.

Everyone says greenmag tastes just like a jolly rancher, so it'll be interesting :lol:

[Burntz]

I personally have really liked my gains from Myotech but other people have said they don't like it.. idk.

not familiar....myoshock and celltech or mesotech mebbe?....all muscletech products which means two things....dont work and overpriced

http://www.muscletech.com/products/myoshock/index.shtml

edit: fkin woops, i didnt mean myotech, meant myoshock lmao.

oh, and havn't paid a dime for any of it. So great results and the only $$ iv spent is for a gym membership and gas to drive there

[Thunder]

How'd you get it for free?

[turbodaytona87]

Thunder, your link for the MAGnitude is wrong

Coop, what do you recommend as far as supplements go?

[Thunder]

fixed

[coop]

Thunder, your link for the MAGnitude is wrong

Coop, what do you recommend as far as supplements go?
like i said...i think Ahmad hit it right on

Protein - Optimum Nutrtion Gold Standard

Creatine - Gaspari SizeON (ahmad went with CL GreenMag)

BCAAs - CL Purple Wraath

Vitamins - Now ADAMS

Fish Oil - Any (high mg omegas/price is how i go here)

Thats the basics....and although the list looks long its not too bad...you take each at a certain time of the day...once....


albers,
muscletech stuff sucks no matter if its free or not....

[turbodaytona87]

what are the times of day for each of those?

[Thunder]

Hmmm I didn't think to get any fish oil.

[coop]

which you should if fat loss is your goal

[Thunder]

what are the times of day for each of those?

I can tell you on workout days, you take the creatine before you work out (half hour?), the purple wraath while working out (just take small drinks throughout workout), the protein you take after your workout (within an hour).

As for the multivitamin, I can only imagine you take them in the morning? Coop can correct me if im wrong.

[Thunder]

which you should if fat loss is your goal

I will pick some up, thanks :Thumb:

[coop]

what are the times of day for each of those?

protein - depends on your goals....morning, post workout, night if you are trying for muscle growth....post workout only if you are trying to lean out....and maybe one to replace a "meal" on a 6meal a day thing

creatine - during workout

bcaas - 30 minute before workout (get ready for a tinglely sensations ahmad haha)

vitamins - morning

fish oil - morning and before bed (or just all at bed time)

[Thunder]

woops, I got some times mixed up. I thought BCAAS were during and creatine before.

[coop]

woops, I got some times mixed up. I thought BCAAS were during and creatine before.

idk how your creatine works...sizeON is during workout....but purple wraath is before workout or over a workout but i find why have two drinks with you at a gym? haha

[Thunder]

true. I think GreenMAG is mostly preworkout. I figure I get that mixed up and drink it just before heading to the gym, bring purple wraath with me, and have protein ready to go when i get back. I've heard about that tingly feeling with PW, does your whole body tingle?lol why is that?

[coop]

the tingle is from one of the amino acids (beta-alanine)

[Burntz]

Thunder: Was given to me by a friend

Coop: I'v had super good results from it, like crazy growth, and I havn't used protein shakes or fish oil or anything besides JUST that pre-workout stuff.

[coop]

Thunder: Was given to me by a friend

Coop: I'v had super good results from it, like crazy growth, and I havn't used protein shakes or fish oil or anything besides JUST that pre-workout stuff.

going from not working out to working out is going to show results.....any muscletech product is a propietary blend aka flour pills....go to something like bodybuilding.com and supplements section and see what ppl use....9/10 avoid all muscletech products liek the plague

[Thunder]

Yeah thats how I came up with the list that I did, I just read a buncha reviews.

[Burntz]

What about NO Xplod? My ex roomate has some that he'll give me.

[coop]

terrible as well.

[Sileightyman]

i've heard alot fo good things about gaspari(sp?) products. im doing pretty well with my products from max muscle...

[Thunder]

gaspari is reputable
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[coop]

anything from max muscle or gnc or complete nutrition is 2x as expensive as getting it online

[Thunder]

^ this is true. Shipping is not bad either. Shipping on all my supplements (7.5 lbs) was 5 bux
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[Z28]

yep, internet suppliments = cheaper online

[coop]

that is the most confusing thing ive read

[turbodaytona87]

hahahaha

[Thunder]

tried purple wraath today since I had basketball followed by football. Helped keep my endurance up, every game I felt good and my legs never showed signs of wanting to give. I just had it mixed up and took a drink every game.

[Thunder]

so I started a more serious lifting session yesterday...

3x10 hamstring curls (140, 160, 180lbs)
3x10 leg press (200, 250, 300)
1x5 leg press (400)
i also did some squats... i have not actually squated before and never learned proper form. I have taught myself through pictures. so I tried very light weights. Did 5 reps of 100 and 5 reps of 180. I know, weak... but I'm going to definitely focus on squatting for lower body workouts andmy form should improve as well as amount of weight.

after lifting, i did 15 minutes of HIIT on the elliptical. That was killer.

this morning i weighed in at 252 lbs
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[Burntz]

so I started a more serious lifting session yesterday...

3x10 hamstring curls (140, 160, 180lbs)
3x10 leg press (200, 250, 300)
1x5 leg press (400)
i also did some squats... i have not actually squated before and never learned proper form. I have taught myself through pictures. so I tried very light weights. Did 5 reps of 100 and 5 reps of 180. I know, weak... but I'm going to definitely focus on squatting for lower body workouts andmy form should improve as well as amount of weight.

after lifting, i did 15 minutes of HIIT on the elliptical. That was killer.

this morning i weighed in at 252 lbs
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Thunder, im gonna PM you my number. I can bring a guest with me to golds, you should come with sometime. I have alot of experience with form for squatting/bench/cleans/ whatever you wanna do.

[turbodaytona87]

So what's the consensus on doing heavy cardio after lifting? I've heard its best to wait 6hrs after lifting to do it, do it on your off days, etc. How long of a cardio session is recommended?

Thunder, the elliptical will get a lot easier.

[Thunder]

i am very familiar with the elliptical, and when it gets easier, i step it up.
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[ADV1]

I typically do a cardio workout for 15-20 minutes 2-3 times a week right after my workout...

[turbodaytona87]

i am very familiar with the elliptical, and when it gets easier, i step it up.
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all I know is that it about killed me the first time:lol:

[Thunder]

after thansgiving, i was doing 4 miles low resistence in 25 min on elliptical
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[turbodaytona87]

I never checked the distance, I think it was ~2500-3000 revolutions

[Thunder]

So between march and now, I've been dealing with a groin injury that just kept nagging and nagging and nagging and killed all my desire to run during the weeks... which in turn killed my desire to lift. On top of that, I started getting into a bad routine of unhealthy eating. Somehow I was doing enough activity during the week between work, football and occasional bball that my weight went from 245ish to 250ish

No more of that... worked way too hard in the winter just to **** it all away.

So now that its been about 2 weeks since football, I've maintained some light activity and my groin is starting to heal finally (it no longer hurts to run or put on pants or lift my leg) and I think its time to get it the ol college effort again. This time I'm going to step up my dietary restrictions, drinking 1 gal of water, avoiding all unnecessary drinks (including fruit punch, a recent staple) and limiting gatorade/sports drink intake to only intense physical activity. Also incorporating a lot more fruit/veggies into my diet.

I however am not going to be incredibly strict, I will allow 1 cheat day(meal) per week. I figure eating whatever I want for 1 meal out of a possible 35 a week, is fair enough.

Also I will be doing some P90x workouts, mostly stretching and plyometrics.

Overall my goal is to get down into the 225-230 range by late august.

[Z28]

Sounds interesting...

[Thunder]

I'm 3 days into my new lifestyle change.. I'm already back under 250 lbs (last weighed 247 about 40 min ago)... I'm thinking the constant water drinking is really the big helper now.

[Z28]

Drinking nothing but water is very tough, if you go one month and drink a soda, it's very weird.... DO IT!!!

[David]

you should buy the bands so you do core, arms, legs and back.. i love those workouts. i got my bands on amazon for cheap. I also got my block and pull up bar there as well. i have my pull up bar in my half bath... it works great.. i have some dents on my trim but thats about it... i'm really surpised is how well it works for not being bolted up to anything.

[David]

walmart gallon jugs for $1.00 (mountain spring water)

nice shape, makes it easy to take on the go.

i moved to vit water so i had something 0 cal and some nice flavor.

at $1 a bottle it cost way more than just a gallon of water but it's a lot easier to suck down than straight water.

[Thunder]

Drinking nothing but water is very tough, if you go one month and drink a soda, it's very weird.... DO IT!!!

I have not had a traditional soda in well over a year and a half (pepsi,coke,mt dew, dr pepper, etc). Last time I had one was December 26th, 2007. I can't imagine what one would taste like. I do not drink their diet variations either.

As for the water, it does seem like a chore. However working up a good sweat, nothing really hits the spot like a semi cold water. Vitamin water is decent, i like it. However I need to keep a specific water intake of 1 gal per day.

Whats your fav vitamin water? I like "Sync" (berry-cherry) the best probably..

[coop]

all those are fine and dandy but since im a little eco-conscious i try not to buy bunch of plastic bottles....i prefer crystal light packets to water.....its just water with a few antioxidants and a touch of caffeine.....i then take vitamins for my vitamin intake.....

beats the $1-2 bottles of vitawater, sobe, life, etc

[Z28]

I don't like vitamin water that much, but it's probably less sugar than gatorade or powerade. Berry Cherry is good...

Some of the napple juices have zero calories and mostly naturally flavored, might wanna check those out.

[STOK5OH]

Straight water ftw, I go through tons of aquafina. Althought like coop said the plastic garbage is a bit obnoxious. That lifewater stuff makes me want too yaccccck.

[David]

oh I don't drink vit water I think that stuff tastes like ass. but I do drink the sobe lifewater. im sipping a black and blue berry blend with 0 cals and 0 sugar..

[Z28]

I've had one flavor of those, not bad. Give em a try Teddy

[Thunder]

i'm drinking an acai fruit punch lifewater.
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[s13curtis]

regular H20 FTW. culligan's if i'm actually in nebraska. around here though the tap water actually tastes good.

[Thunder]

241.6

[AWeb80]

regular H20 FTW. culligan's if i'm actually in nebraska. around here though the tap water actually tastes good.

yeah...I bet it's all natural filtered by nature....that is FTW.

I LOVE my parents well water....or maybe it's because Lincolns water SUCKS

[cole]

i think the tap water here tastes fine...:confused:

[Thunder]

this is kinda an old house. When i lived with my parents over around the 56th and pine lake area, the water tasted fine.

[Thunder]

update: received 2 more products to use
PFO Fish oil
CL Blue Gene.

[Z28]

I hear fish oil is good for you, but not sure of all the benefits

[Thunder]

it is, both for your heart and for weight management. The fat from fish oil is easy for your body to break down unlike a lot of saturated fats
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[s13curtis]

this is kinda an old house. When i lived with my parents over around the 56th and pine lake area, the water tasted fine.

Yea that does matter quite a bit. The water at our Montclair house wreaked of rust and tasted like metal.

[¿umop apisdn]

UNSHAVE YOUR FACE

[Thunder]

so, I currently sit at 242.5 lbs, in which I went to bed last night at 245.8 lbs. What a productive night of sleep LOL

I started my lifting routine monday, mostly upper body work.
Chest flys
Chest press
Arm curls
Bicep curls
Lateral raises
Hip Adduction (very light weights to try and rehab my groin)
Started lifting with a 5 minute warmup run and finished it with a 10 minute medium pace bike ride.

I then went yesterday to try and do more Core exercise and Tricep work
Arm extensions
Back extensions
20 situps (on the inclined situp machine)
Tricep curls (machine)
Tricep curls (barbell)
Chest Press (barbell)
again, started yesterday with a 5 minute warmup on the elliptical, finished with 10 minute medium pace interval training on elliptical (sprint/jog/sprint/jog, etc)

I've also finally got my supplement routine going, I have skipped the Purple Wraath both days but have been taking my Green Magnitude (Preworkout creatine complex) and post workout Whey (tasty with milk). I introduced a new supplement that I purchased last week called Blue Gene by Controlled Labs

Designed to help the serious athlete optimize mitochondrial biogenesis, hormone level ratios, and support oxygen rich blood cells during athletic performance and recovery, this stimulant-free formula means more endurance, power, and better recovery without pro-hormones or grey area compounds. No hormones means no post-cycle therapy or other risks associated with exogenous hormonal ingestion. Key Attributes:

* Controlled Release Formula
* Stimulant Free Endurance and Stamina
* Natural Power and Performance
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The biggest thing I've noticed with taking it the last 2 days, is I seem to recover faster and are less sore than what I would normally be after such a long break from lifting.

[Preston]

you're gonna be one sexy teddy after all of this.

[Thunder]

haha

[Thunder]

HOLY
****.

So today was an off day for lifting. Of course I gotta still take supplements on my off days, but thankfully 2 of the 3 main supplements I take for lifting also aid with overall energy/stamina. Played some full court B-Ball. This time I cracked open the Purple Wraath and took a serving of that, 5 pills of blue gene and 1 serving of creatine. Dear god what a rush of energy. 1 and a half hours of basketball and I still wanted more. If it weren't for this stupid groin injury that just won't heal, I could have played another hour and a half. I am not sore or even tired.

I also noticed it killed my appetite big time. I have my normal Subway 12" right here and I'm not even done with 6" and I feel like I'm full.

[Z28]

Probably all the water you drink and retain using creatine, I know I drank a lot of water when i use to use it.

[Thunder]

you have to, thats for sure
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[Thunder]

240.8 lbs this morning.

Today is the big day, lower body lifting. For at least the next 2-3 weeks, all my lower body work is going to be basically rehab. Very low weights to start and gradually increase. I'm anticipating starting squatting at a very meager 100 lbs. Leg press probably start at 150 lb reps. Hopefully i can be full strength in a month, we'll see.

[STOK5OH]

Dont drop the ball, or I will flame YOUR FACE.

[Thunder]

I think tonite was a success.

Took my normal stack, started attacking the legs. Leg Extensions, Leg Curls, calf raises, squats and leg presses. Very modest weights on them all. The biggest concern was squats, because thats where I generally would feel pain. Took it light, 10x100, 5x150, 5x160. Same with leg press, 10x170, 10x200, 10x230.

After all that, did a 10 minute interval session on the elliptical... built up a good sweat and kept my heartrate between 120-130 from the first minute on til finish.

All in all pretty productive night, no pain anywhere outside the norm.

[srt-4_uk]

I think tonite was a success.

Took my normal stack, started attacking the legs. Leg Extensions, Leg Curls, calf raises, squats and leg presses. Very modest weights on them all. The biggest concern was squats, because thats where I generally would feel pain. Took it light, 10x100, 5x150, 5x160. Same with leg press, 10x170, 10x200, 10x230.

After all that, did a 10 minute interval session on the elliptical... built up a good sweat and kept my heartrate between 120-130 from the first minute on til finish.

All in all pretty productive night, no pain anywhere outside the norm.

:lost::lost::lost:

[Thunder]

Gimme til MARCH

I will give JD a run for his money

:rofl:

[srt-4_uk]

OH GOD NOT MARCH!!!
:ohnoes:

[Thunder]

Another fairly productive night.

Tonite I kinda went a slightly different route with my sets/reps. On my last set I increased the weight increment by double. So with a lot of my sets, I'd go for example 10x70, 10x80, 10x100.

Tonight included arm curls, chest fly, rear deltoid fly, lateral raises (shoulder/delts), bicep curls and bench press. All of which except for bench press, I was doing my staggered 3 set rep setup. On bench press, I had no spotter, so I just did 10 reps of 100 and called it good... could have done more but I saved it for last and by then I was getting slightly fatigued. I capped the night off with 10 minutes on the elliptical, interval training ofcourse. I increased the resistance this time and overall ran less distance but kept a higher heart rate (145-150) and broke out a little better sweat.

Also before I went to the gym, I weighed myself in at 244 lbs. Thats up 4 lbs over the week. So I'm guessing the creatine is working well and causing my muscles to retain water. There is a visual difference now. I should have done some before/after type stuff, but I never gave it thought til now. Arms/legs are bigger and I'm starting to see some veins goin through my forearms/biceps when I'm lifting (something I never noticed until this gym session)

Tomorrow and Sunday I have football for Cornhusker State games, so I may not do any running and only do a light lift session this Sunday.

[Thunder]

Todays physical activity was 3 games of flag football. Physical games in the heat.. a pretty damn good workout. I tweaked my groin though and hurt my thumb... I'm really hoping this doesnt affect my ability to lift this week

[cole]

oooh baby

[Z28]

looked sexy

[srt-4_uk]

looked sexy

Only if he still had facial hair.

[Thunder]

hahaha

[s13curtis]

Hawt.

[Thunder]

So I didn't lift Saturday or Sunday due to the Cornhusker State Games, so I go tonite. I'm going to cram 2 sessions in 1 and attack everything above the waste (back, abdominal, arms, chest, etc) Should make for an interesting night.

[Z28]

Could you tell me where you find your energy? How old are you?

[Thunder]

Purely motivation my good man. I hate it that when I go and play football that I've got a pretty decent skillset and absolutely no athletic ability. So I'm the fat kid whos got good hands and runs a good route, but I'm slow and can't always get open. I always tell myself, if I could just run worth a damn I'd be a better player. So athletic performance drives me. Thats only 1 reason too... its also nice to LOOK in shape. Having a gut disgusts me greatly.

[Thunder]

And I'm 23... I'm a broken 23 year old at that. I'm trying to mend while building, its working so far.. my groin finally starts to heal AFTER i start lifting.

[Z28]

ok, i guess i just have no motivation..:(

[Thunder]

Sometimes theres just that... spark. I think I've found that spark. I've been down that path before where I'll work out for a month or 2 and just lose interest. I'd FORCE myself to go and workout. Something is different now... I look forward to going to the gym every opportunity I can. I can't describe the feeling I get, but its something pretty cool to be honest.

[Z28]

damn't, well have fun :cry:

[Thunder]

You seem to be in pretty good shape timothy, I think as long as you maintained you'd be fine. Once I reach my goal, I think I'll just maintain. I'm not looking to be some sort of olympic bodybuilder or try to weigh 180 lbs. If I hit 230 lbs with 10% BF, I would be ecstatic. I have a looooong way to go.

[Z28]

i am not in very good shape, i just puke all the time

so how come you say you have all this energy because you are dedicated, yet i see on facebook...um something else??? wtf!?

[Thunder]

whats on facebook?

I didn't lift last night, got caught up with too much fun. Thankfully the fun itself was pretty tiring.

Weighed in this morning at 240.4 lbs... soooooooo close to 23x lbs damnit

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[Z28]

Kidding about the pukin part.

You said you have all this energy because you are dedicated. I check my facebook to send a friend a video about cod6 and i see you say something about 5 hour energy in your status..what gives?

[Thunder]

The 5 hour energy is not the source of my workout energy... its the source of my "I didn't sleep very well last night and I need to do something to keep me from passing out from behind the wheel" energy. Driving is tiring for some reason. When I'm out walking around I can function just fine.

[Z28]

well ya, cuz you don't like the mx6, you need ls1

[Thunder]

no the mx6 keeps me up, its our work van thats b0000ring. FORD FTL

[coop]

focused on route delivery?

[Thunder]

focused on route delivery?

i know the city like the back of my hand for the most part... nothing challenging about my routes.

[Thunder]

Wow tonite was an utter failure.

I struggled through all my sets, didn't even finish my 3rd set of dumbbell bicep curls and 4 minutes into the elliptical my legs wouldn't have anymore. I was completely flat. It sucked, I'm sore, but not for the right reasons.

[STOK5OH]

Wow tonite was an utter failure.

I struggled through all my sets, didn't even finish my 3rd set of dumbbell bicep curls and 4 minutes into the elliptical my legs wouldn't have anymore. I was completely flat. It sucked, I'm sore, but not for the right reasons.

Eh, shrug it off. Like I said earlier, I get that about every third time at the gym during the week, dont know why but it's annoying as fuhk.

[Z28]

We have a candidate for "black powder"

[Thunder]

Honestly I think that was fatigue coming back at me. I haven't been sleeping very well the last week or so and immediately after I finished at the gym I wanted to close my eyes and go to bed. That is most definitely not normal, I'm usually wide eyed for at least an hour after exercising. Also the only supplement I took preworkout was creatine, I didn't take blue gene or purple wraath.

I'm gonna skip tonite (since I dont lift wednesdays) and make sure I sleep well for thursday, and hit thursday hard and not at midnight (another mistake I made, lifting at 11pm)

[Thunder]

oh and I'm pretty sure my scale is making fun of me and laughing...

240.2 lbs.

[s13curtis]

Usually :sex: is the source of workout inspiration. Just saying.

[s13curtis]

or :gaysex: if that's what you're into.

[Z28]

Ya, no good sleep = shitty work out

[Thunder]

uh,

[Thunder]

Ya, no good sleep = shitty work out

QFT I have learned my lesson.

[Z28]

I'm trying this

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=5883

thought i would let you know...

[Z28]

i dunno why

[Thunder]

so its like a specialized Multivitamin. Interesting.

[Z28]

joint suppliment too, thats why i wanna try it...

[Thunder]

its caught my interest, thats for sure. I've had some problems with my hip and obviously I've still got 1 iffy wheel.

[Z28]

well idk if it works, just throwing it out there. i don't like the price for a multi-vitamin but that's a lot of tablets, i will pick it up tonight.

i think i got an email from them for free shipping. they want my money again :)

[Thunder]

well idk if it works, just throwing it out there. i don't like the price for a multi-vitamin but that's a lot of tablets, i will pick it up tonight.

i think i got an email from them for free shipping. they want my money again :)

I'm going to check BB forums to see what people have to say about it.

[coop]

orange triad > * for joint relief

[Thunder]

Just quick search of different supplement reviews, this stuff is apparently pretty damn good. I think I might just buy it.

[Thunder]

What would be awesome is if my hip and ankles felt better...

[Z28]

Just do upper for now..give it some rest, less thrusting

[Z28]

orange triad > * for joint relief

coop speaketh, yet idk how he knew what i said...thought i was blocked :cry:

[Z28]

Just quick search of different supplement reviews, this stuff is apparently pretty damn good. I think I might just buy it.

Link to reviews?

[Z28]

well idk if it works, just throwing it out there. i don't like the price for a multi-vitamin but that's a lot of tablets, i will pick it up tonight.

i think i got an email from them for free shipping. they want my money again :)

I'm going to check BB forums to see what people have to say about it.

I really don't see how the black berry guys are gonna know anything about a join suppliment...:shrug:

[Thunder]

you goof, bodybuilding.com forums :lol:

They are not official reviews, just people posting up their experience with it. There are alot of threads about orange triad on there.

[Z28]

i hope you would laugh...hehe

i will go look i guess..

[Thunder]

orange triad > * for joint relief

Should I continue to take my NOW Adam MV along with orange triad? Or substitute?

[coop]

focused on route delivery?

i know the city like the back of my hand for the most part... nothing challenging about my routes.

It was an acronym joke

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[coop]

orange triad > * for joint relief

Should I continue to take my NOW Adam MV along with orange triad? Or substitute?

I used to do both.

Adams
Ot
Pw
On whey
Fish oil
Sizeon

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[Thunder]

ROFL i didnt even catch the acronym

my regiment is very similar to yours
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[Thunder]

Now, this is more like it.

I had no intention of going to the gym today but last nights absolute failure was just gnawing at me all day. I refused to have 2 off days in a row.

Loaded up on Purple Wraath, Blue Gene and Green Mag and hit the gym hard with the cardio work. 20 minutes on the elliptical, 12 of it being quite intense (1.6 miles in 12 minutes with increased resistance reaching 45% during the high intervals) I wanted more though, so a very small cooldown and then I hit the treadmill for another 1/2 mile at a brisk walking pace (4mph).

Afterwards, did some forearm exercises with 15 lb dumbbells. Then did a couple sets of calf raises with 60lb dumbbells. Used the exercise ball to do some core work, targeting obliques and midsection. Went until it burned, then pushed out another few reps. Finished the night with some "specialized" training... 10 lb handball and going through football throwing motions trying to emphasize speed on the delivery.

All in all, a very good night in my eyes, busted out a pretty hardcore sweat and I feel sore/good.

241.2 lbs. I'm kind of excited because after hard running nights, I'll typically lose 1-3 lbs overnight, so tomorrow morning when I hit the scale, I might finally reach 239.x

[Z28]

I'm impressed, did you order some orange? i got some, kinda expensive though

[Thunder]

I will be, I told lepa bout it and he is even going to get some

[Thunder]

arrrrrrghhhhhhhh asdlf;jasdfl;jkjl;asdjiopwerjiopasdasdkl;sdaf

240.4 lbs. I think my scale is broken.

[s13curtis]

What is your ideal weight Ahmad? And what is this "orange" you speak of.

[Thunder]

I think 225-230 would be ideal. I don't want to get under 225 because then I'll probably be too small. I'm trying to add muscle and lose fat, which isn't going to make a dramatic weight difference in the loss column

We're talking about Orange Triad, its a supplement from Controlled Labs
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/orangetriad.html

[s13curtis]

Wish I could get some supplements, but I'm a little stuck here, and I don't have a PO Box.

[coop]

yall are making it real tempting to get back into shape....

where do you workout ahmad?

[Thunder]

i've been goin to snap on 14th and old cheney... got everything i need from squat rack to bench and free weights.
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[coop]

you plan on being there for awhile?

my membership at PLC ends at end of sept and I will prolly go to the campus rec or continue at PLC....just looking for a workout partner

[Z28]

oh hey, i think i know of someone who needs one too..i'll ask ahmad

[Thunder]

i will probably stay at snap just for the sake of convenience... although I think having a workout partner would be nice, especially for lifting (spotters are nice). How much is prairie life?
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[Z28]

hey ahmad, coop would like to know if you guys can work out together? lemme know

[coop]

tim you are in omaha...

its expensive ahmad but offers A LOT more than snaps.....the reason for me maybe switching to UNL is the basketball ontop of all the workout stuff for about the same price high 40s

[Thunder]

I'M DOWN
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[Thunder]

If i were able to use unl rec I'd be there in a heartbeat
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[coop]

If i were able to use unl rec I'd be there in a heartbeat
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i think they still allow outside memberships.....idk maybe not...but PLC on 70th and A has bball courts and other **** too

[Z28]

tim you are in omaha...



what's your point?? i just set you two up...you are welcome :D

[Thunder]

hmmmm. I may have to look into the rec... i like having bball courts. plc = 50-60 month?
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[coop]

hmmmm. I may have to look into the rec... i like having bball courts. plc = 50-60 month?
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plc is 48 for me...i think thats a normal membership....problem is i went to west 0 one since its close for me....if you sign up at 70nA you get to use that one and west O one for same membership and they have courts at 70nA....i havent really asked exactly how that all works but im too lazy....i would be more motivated with a group or partner (remember im out of town a lot during some weeks :) )

thanks tim :)

[Z28]

uh huh :D

[Thunder]

Welll I was going to leave tonite as an offnight, then decided in the afternoon I was going to go ahead and try to kill myself again, but I ended up getting caught up with some other stuff so I didn't work out :( Going to have to make up for it tomorrow.

[Thunder]

238.8

[¿umop apisdn]

238.8

:ohnoes:

At this rate, eventually, you'll just disappear!

[Thunder]

i am anxiously awaiting 22x lbs :nervous:
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[Bobby Light]

damn im fat.

[Z28]

start a work log...

[Bobby Light]

you have to work out to start a work log

[coop]

start a rant thread instead?

[Z28]

start a "**** it" thread instead?

[Bobby Light]

** it, I will start one...

[Thunder]

get owned

[Thunder]

freakin awesome.

So this weekend in a way I cheated way more than I needed too... while I avoided all the sugar I could, I still was eating some rather unhealthy food (KHANS LOL) That said, I kept up with exercise as much as I could (DnB/basketball on saturday and softball on sunday) Today I just had a NICE 1.5 hour workout of basketball... damn near nonstop running. My shirt was totally soaked in sweat, I was exhausted.

After taking in some fluids and changing, weigh myself
235.4 lbs.

freaking awesome.

[Thunder]

still at 235.4 lbs this morning, which makes me happy. Put on a new set of smaller sized boxers and my old pair of pants which is a size too big... a nice feeling

[coop]

Ur ***** shrank? Lulz

Goodjob mang
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[Thunder]

hhahahahha thanks
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[Z28]

wish we could go play basketball...

[Thunder]

saturday?
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[Z28]

idk, it's up to jon...i'll try and make it down

[Thunder]

we can sneak in an hr of bball. then work on the car.
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[Z28]

sweaty before car work? then sweaty/greasy? then red robin?

[s13curtis]

I'm jealous of you bball players. I used to love bball...But ever since that fateful day about a year ago when I messed up my knee in an SCR balling event it hasn't been the same... :(

[Preston]

In for Red Robin.

[Z28]

I'm jealous of you bball players. I used to love bball...But ever since that fateful day about a year ago when I messed up my knee in an SCR balling event it hasn't been the same... :(

I use to be the same way, i'm sure mine will give out again someday...

[Burntz]

I would like to play basketball at some point :(

I'm actually pretty dam decent . Thunder, I believe you have my number. I can haz textt next time you ball it up??

[Thunder]

i dont have your number i dont think. maybe on old phone
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[Thunder]

gimme it and i'll add u to bball text list
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[Burntz]

Im pretty sure I just texted you, if not, 402-314-4321

[Thunder]

233.6