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Johnny
20th September 2007, 11:20 AM
Well umm where do I start...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8385.jpg
Well those dont look out of place...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8386.jpg
its supposed to be in 2 pieces right?

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8388.jpg


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8391.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8392.jpg

I called ford, they said those are supposed to do that:rolleye2:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8393.jpg
Well this looks okay

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8394.jpg

ohh wait... uhhh...
does it look starved for oil to you?

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8395.jpg

I bet that piece was removed for weight reduction

oh wait...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8396.jpg

nothing appears amis here :rolleye2:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8397.jpg

nothing really stands out here, just thought I would share anyways

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8398.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8399.jpg

oh theres the top...
I think it is an aftermarket rod cap, clearly enginereed that way


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/RabbidV8/IMG_8389.jpg

the car has never been raced :bolt:


oh overall I think some hobbgoblin put my engine together and threw it in the car just to get it sold...


clearly the number 1 and 5 rods were not torqued down correctly

Bobby Light
20th September 2007, 11:26 AM
this is your old motor right? have you found a new one yet?

moparornocar
20th September 2007, 11:34 AM
By looking at the pictures, I bet those rods were fine. The problem looks to be, The oil pump locked up( twisted pump drive shaft), then starved the engine of oil and someone kept driving it. You can clearly see that where the oil quit going to first, the crank got hot and burnt through the bearings, as this was happening you can see the oil starting to burn in the rest of the engine, then you had the major failure you see in the pics. Look at how there is no oil on the crank at that point. That was ran for a considerable amount of time to burn it totally free of oil residue.

moparornocar
20th September 2007, 11:46 AM
After more revue of the pictures, That engine was not rebuilt at anytime soon. So I am not thinking anyone just put it together just to move the car. You can see under the piston skirts on the cylinders, that there is considerable buildup, That would only happen after years and miles of use. If you were told it was fresh? They lied to you. Also those con rods would never have went far enough to get that many miles on the had they not been torqued at the time of assembly.

Johnny
20th September 2007, 12:03 PM
Oh I was never told it was rebuilt

I imagine that someone just threw new bearing on the rods and send the engin eon its way, it really only lasted like 3-4k. Considering how many miles were on it when I got it, and the person that had it before me(1 month maybe 2) didnt put that much on it.

and yes spencer it is my old engine, I still do not have another one lined up yet, so I am still open to options, you wanna give me a better deal on yours yet?

moparornocar
20th September 2007, 12:11 PM
That is a very good possibilty, That with new bearings on an old worn crank driven 3/4 k would surely do that kind of damage.

Cobra Commander
20th September 2007, 12:25 PM
I imagine that someone just threw new bearing on the rods and send the engin eon its way, it really only lasted like 3-4k. Considering how many miles were on it when I got it, and the person that had it before me(1 month maybe 2) didnt put that much on it.

That sucks to hear, John. I didn't know he had the motor torn down before you bought it.

Johnny
20th September 2007, 01:26 PM
neither did I, these are just things I am assuming.

Considering It was barely modded, and its lifespan was soo short.


I dunno, but yes very ghey

Johnny
20th September 2007, 01:27 PM
and yes it was driven for a bit with the oil pump out, the motor died at ticos downtown and my shop is at 48th and hwy 2. So I just drove it back with no oil pressure, yeah uh, it made it to within 6 blocks of the shop before it completely let go and what you see fully happened

Lepa
20th September 2007, 01:38 PM
Damn

MadmaX
20th September 2007, 01:41 PM
and yes it was driven for a bit with the oil pump out, the motor died at ticos downtown and my shop is at 48th and hwy 2. So I just drove it back with no oil pressure, yeah uh, it made it to within 6 blocks of the shop before it completely let go and what you see fully happened


yoooooooooooooooooou're kidding. right?

STOK5OH
20th September 2007, 02:10 PM
That motor'd never been apart,it locked the pump and ran it self dry,end of story. One of the first things I looked at when I bought that car,was to see if the pan or anything else had been off,only gasket that had been touched was the timing cover and intake. IF for some reason I'm wrong and it has been touched on the inside,it was done long before the guy I bought it from...cause' he wouldn't have been capable of that kinda repair.

Cobra Commander
20th September 2007, 02:13 PM
and yes it was driven for a bit with the oil pump out

Welp, that settles that one. :lol:

96speedZ28
20th September 2007, 02:29 PM
That sucks man.

David
20th September 2007, 03:38 PM
dude i'm sorry that sucks... but i have to do it...

OWN3D!!!!

again sorry for the loss :(

Johnny
20th September 2007, 03:48 PM
That motor'd never been apart,it locked the pump and ran it self dry,end of story. One of the first things I looked at when I bought that car,was to see if the pan or anything else had been off,only gasket that had been touched was the timing cover and intake. IF for some reason I'm wrong and it has been touched on the inside,it was done long before the guy I bought it from...cause' he wouldn't have been capable of that kinda repair.

didnt they come with a 2 or 4 piece oil pan gasket from factory? Cause this was a rubber one piece

Johnny
20th September 2007, 03:49 PM
yoooooooooooooooooou're kidding. right?

and no lol not kidding, I knew it was screwed anyways, though the piece of cylnder wall breaking off prolly could have been avoided:Hammer:

Johnny
20th September 2007, 03:49 PM
yeah served but whatever it happens

Ervin
20th September 2007, 04:01 PM
ouch, that sucks

c0z
20th September 2007, 05:18 PM
Um couldn't the whole thing be spared if you would've just stopped driving it when the oil pump seized?

moparornocar
20th September 2007, 06:26 PM
Um couldn't the whole thing be spared if you would've just stopped driving it when the oil pump seized?

Hmmm? I would think that if that had happened it might have gone for quite a while? Then again, What got stuck in the oil pump?

STOK5OH
20th September 2007, 07:08 PM
That sucks to hear, John. I didn't know he had the motor torn down before you bought it.

Are you trying to start some ****,Brook?
Nice try and all,BUT im afraid it's aleady been established that ''I'' didn't touch **** in the motor in the 5 weeks I owned it before john. :roll:

STOK5OH
20th September 2007, 07:11 PM
Hmmm? I would think that if that had happened it might have gone for quite a while? Then again, What got stuck in the oil pump?
the stok pumps seem to be prone to seizing,Ive had three of them lock and twist the oil pump drive.

86Shelby
20th September 2007, 07:46 PM
Sucks to see the damage. Hopefully you can find one pretty easy. An FI 5.0 shouldn't be more than what $250 from a salvage yard?

I'm dissapointed that there wasn't more carnage. When you run an engine and you know it has a fatal problem you rod the **** out of it. The whole goal is to be able to wave to your buddy while he looks at you through the other fenderwell with the engine installed.

Bobby Light
20th September 2007, 07:56 PM
i had to pry a connecting rod out of my oil pan when my 350 blew.

Johnny
20th September 2007, 07:58 PM
yes it could have been stopped when the oil pump seized, but there are some other reasons why I didnt, **** it, not like there was anything speacial done to it.

I needed to get it home and i chose to drive it knowing full well what the consiquences would be.

it took till I opened it up to see that it was the oil pump that seized up

Johnny
20th September 2007, 07:59 PM
That sucks to hear, John. I didn't know he had the motor torn down before you bought it.

oh and drew never had it open, up[on closer inspection and talking with a few people it looks like it was just a case of the oil pump seizing up

STOK5OH
20th September 2007, 08:12 PM
get a gauge mang!!!!!

moparornocar
20th September 2007, 08:15 PM
oh and drew never had it open, up[on closer inspection and talking with a few people it looks like it was just a case of the oil pump seizing up

Good to see you are in good spirits about it. Since there was nothing special about it? No loss, no gain? Now had it been a build up of some kind, In the words of Red Foreman( That Seveties Show) all I would say is ,,,,," Dumbass!" But it was fun to use my CSI skills to determine what the destruction was all about.

STOK5OH
20th September 2007, 09:42 PM
ya it was fairly obvious that it was starved and torched after it lost pressure,no mystery there. :-p

BUT...john's right,not a major loss.
Because you can buy sbf shortblock for $23.61 these day's. It's not like a mopar performance small block. $6,000,693,523.56 for a stock 340 w/260 h.p. :lol:

moparornocar
20th September 2007, 10:22 PM
I think you are mistaken, For $6000 you can get a complete Viper V10 engine, That will take all the abuse you can put to it.Oh and stock 340s were actually closer to 350hp. Probably the best smallblock built from that era.

TurboB18C1DC2
20th September 2007, 10:36 PM
I think you are mistaken, For $6000 you can get a complete Viper V10 engine, That will take all the abuse you can put to it.Oh and stock 340s were actually closer to 350hp. Probably the best smallblock built from that era.

are you speaking of a 340 six pack? or a non 6 pack? in all honesty i dont even know if there is a non six pack version.

i can tell you this. i do love farm truck 318 motors with glass packs. you never see them and they sound great. at least not in nebraska. california you see them all day long, but not here. they do do a good burnout though.

moparornocar
21st September 2007, 12:33 AM
The 340s were produced from 68-73, only 70 were six packs and in 72 and 73 they were detuned . 318s were built from 68 to 01 and ran forever.

Johnny
21st September 2007, 08:15 AM
lol, ummm uhhh... lol

hell yeah meh it happens i was gonna pull it this winter anyways, now I just have a head start on it

Johnny
21st September 2007, 08:15 AM
now I just need to make up my mind on what I am doing

Johnny
21st September 2007, 08:16 AM
I had a gauge, sadly it was unhooked...

great timing huh?

Lepa
21st September 2007, 08:20 AM
^^^ Very good timing, and for smallblocks i already offered john a big upgrade, i've got a 72 360 waiting to get bored/stroked and made into a 408+

Johnny
21st September 2007, 11:31 AM
no slowpar

DarkSlide
21st September 2007, 11:48 AM
Hope you get it figured out. I was hoping to see more carnage tho.

Bobby Light
21st September 2007, 01:05 PM
now I just need to make up my mind on what I am doing

i got everything you need

STOK5OH
21st September 2007, 01:39 PM
def. need to add more cowbell.

BossRoss
21st September 2007, 01:48 PM
That motor'd never been apart,it locked the pump and ran it self dry,end of story. One of the first things I looked at when I bought that car,was to see if the pan or anything else had been off,only gasket that had been touched was the timing cover and intake. IF for some reason I'm wrong and it has been touched on the inside,it was done long before the guy I bought it from...cause' he wouldn't have been capable of that kinda repair.




yea that guy was a toolbag. and his cat was a tard

MadmaX
21st September 2007, 01:53 PM
def. need to add more cowbell.


lol

cowbell > oil pressure.

STOK5OH
21st September 2007, 01:56 PM
werd.